The Walking Dead SERIES FINALE - Fandom Hybrid Podcast #203

0:25 What's up hybrids? Welcome back to another episode of The Phantom hybrid podcast. This is hanako and I am here with Michelle and Casey and we are reluctantly discussing the series finale of The Walking Dead and it's been out for two weeks now and it still hurts to say that. Like you sure you don't want to give us season 12 Part 1. How are we feeling? Like, how many times have you, how many times have you all watch this now?

1:08 I've seen it twice. Three times. Okay, I guess I'm a glutton for punishment but see I'm still watching fear the walking dead so I'm I still feel like the show is still carrying on because I'm watching another Series. So but you know I love fear and everything but it ain't the main show. It's not trust me. It's not There's a lot to unpack in this episode. We got a lot to talk about Casey and I have a lot to talk about because we actually went to LA, we were present for the series finale event at the Orpheum Theater. We got to watch the show with the cast and crew. We got to attend a live taping of Talking Dead with damn near the whole K.

2:08 Yeah. My It was there. We got to meet a couple of people. Get some photos. We had a good time Brands. They left me at home. They wouldn't Peg me. They would impact me in that $60 suitcase record that we asked you several times that we've got cast. So, you know, I could fit in your backpack, gorillas are, self-confident are back. At pack. I ended up having to pay for a carry-on, did you yes? So let me tell you, let's go into, let's go into the ridiculous stuff before we get into the Heartbreak and happiness, and all the emotions that is the series finale of The Walking Dead. So, of course, we flew spirit because Spirit was cheap. Got a round-trip ticket to La for three hundred and five dollars.

3:04 Okay, this is for the weekend before Thanksgiving. So I was like, okay, I'll deal with spirit When online bought me one of those traveling backpacks that kind of expands and you can put stuff in it, it was great when I left Atlanta. I knew my bag was just slightly larger than what they consider a personal bad but I was like, okay I'm a see if they're gonna. Let me get on this plane, I got on the plane, no problem. I stuck my bag up under the seat. Best I could no problem coming back. However, was a different story. Because we had goodies from the finale event, you know, we had a couple of little extra things, you know, where bought snacks and stuff and we had extra and yeah, my backpack was looking mighty thick on the day.

3:58 I was supposed to fly out and let me tell you, the LAX Spirit people. They were watching people like Hawks, like if your book bag was that much bigger that girl was like, Oh, you need to see if your book if your your bag is going to fit in this thing. If it's not you're going to have to pay for a carry-on and she was trying to warn people before they got to the gate. But she was like if you get to this game, if you get to boarding and we have to pull you out of the line because we carry on is going to cost you more in the end if you had some, if you were born and they pulled you out and you had to pay a hundred dollars I was like, you know what? Let me go on here to pay my love. Oh no, that's ridiculous.

4:42 I mean I seriously find that ridiculous. It is highway robbery, honey. It really is but that's okay. The only reason why I flew them was because Southwest wanted like $700. So I was like oh that's $400 to go towards, you know, my trip and our visit to the Funko store, which we got to do. Do as well and food. So yeah, so that was a thing. But anyway, other than that, La was great. We were there not long enough and we plan on going back. But we got to attend this finale event, with hundreds of other fans.

5:22 We got see the stars. We got to see the red carpet, we met Melissa McBride, awesome. And, you know, I had met khary, Payton, and Ross Marquand before at Pandemic and DragonCon. So I'd seen them before, but we got to meet them again. I got Kyrie to autograph. My Walking Dead posted that I finally found. Now, let me tell you we had planned on getting posters to take with us to get autographs. Could not find a poster here and the ones on Amazon they were taking like they wanted. They were like, oh expected, arrival date. Mid-December, I was like, that's going to be way too late for me. We I happen to walk into a souvenir shop that had posters in the back.

6:08 And I just decided, let me go. See what post is? They got sure enough, they have Walking Dead Season one. Posters we grab them and I think those posters were what, eight dollars dollars. Oh, yeah. So we had a lot of fun. My poster became a sign. Yeah. Yes. But says I love you deny was we realized that I was actually going to be there right before she got on stage Casey unrolled her poster. She folded it so that the white, you know, the back of it was visible. She took one of her markers that we bought it.

6:48 She wrote it, big green letters, I love you deny and she hung it over the back of me and just let me tell you I have a picture of case and she's just like this she is just steady focused on deny when I You actually see if that chick was breathing. She was just like anyone Miss 9. I love her. Why I love her you ever meet her? I think I might pass out like, we were hoping that what happened? Because I am definitely getting that on. Can you have to? I think if we had stayed out at the Red Carpet, maybe another 10 or 15 minutes, we may have been able to catch her on the red.

7:32 Opposite but we would have missed the time to go in and look at the Fan Experience and see all of the props and how they decorated and everything we wanted to go experience that too. So I mean we saw quite a few people on the red carpet. A lot of people on the red carpet, a few of them came over, talk to us while we were standing on the side. So it was it was a good little experience. So we'll talk more about that later. Let's get into this house. So the first thing about this episode that I noticed is that we did not get the voiceover intro from Judith and that worried the hell out of me because I was like, okay, I'm Judith is not giving us the voiceover, does that mean that she's not okay? Like, I didn't think they were going to kill Judith off, but there was that one little moment? Well, um, yeah, when I didn't hear her, Voiceover because you remember, we talked about a couple episodes ago where I felt like the way that they were doing the voiceovers, it was kind of like Judith and future what she was supposed to be like in the future and then the fact that we didn't get that voiceover, I was like yeah I've been not kill that shit before her mom and her dad come back.

8:46 So like if I knew it wasn't happening but they scared me. Just a little bit just a little bit enough for me to be side side on the screen while we were in the theater. Like I don't like this. Where's Judith, where's the voiceover? But instead of hearing the voice over, we see Darrell rushing into the hospital with her unconscious. He puts her on a stretcher and he goes to look for help, and as he's doing that, there are two Commonwealth soldiers coming down the hall. One of them has like a container of, I guess medications, you know, Health surprise healthcare supplies and they not Darrell out. Now, Darrell is knocked out, Judas is kind of conscious, and she's looking Rao is she sees that Walkers are headed towards the hospital and Darrell in his haste left the door open of course, he wasn't thinking about what was behind him. He's trying to get you to the hospital. This girl, when I tell you she is dead. Damned if Shana Grimes shot.

9:46 Right, we can blood loss, this chick gets off the stretcher goes to the door to close them and she has to fight with a walker who was trying to get into the door. Or when I say that girl has some determination because she was like what y'all not gonna do? It's coming here with my uncle is laying on the floor, unconscious eat his brain, right? And then eat mine cuz I can only fight one with one arm right now, but she gets a table in front of the door, she passes out. I was like, okay. Now it's just an aside from the very beginning. All right, I guess that's what we gon do. Um, I don't know how I want to do this. Do you, how do y'all want to do this? I don't think.

10:37 I don't think we really need to recap at this point because I think everybody who's listening to us. Everybody who watched they know what happened, they know what order. I just, I think we can just give our reaction to it, because I have got what you got that song starts. Oh yeah. What's your thoughts on this? Yeah, that's not quite yet. Okay, we already know Rick and Michonne showed up at the end of the episode, we know that's okay. So we want to talk about. Just okay.

11:17 Okay. They should have killed more people. Personally, Israel people, even though realistically with the whore and with the Pamela's cool. Everybody came out unscathed. So for because it was not, were people fighting it except for three people, who's the third person? Oh, do I actually was actually was a couple more but the, the other two I think were just unknown the people the unknown.

11:57 Yeah. It's the, uh, it's the unknown even before that she was looking while she was walking with them. That was the first time she had ever done. That was like, yeah, I don't think Jules is going to be long for this world and I mean she was she was putting up a fight, you know, when the group was sitting there fighting they still fighting the Walkers that, you know, cornered them. When they were trying to get Darryl and Judith out the way she was sitting there fighting them. I think the problem was that last walker that she killed. I think the way the angle that she came at him, It put her exposed to another Walker and I correct where she that's where she messed up. But she could have kept going.

12:46 But she liked what they didn't bite your legs. So why are you 40? You falling down. Boom, you keep running. We cut your arm off at the end. Let's go. Let's go biting into my arm but I'm pretty sure if I'm already panicked, if I'm already scared. And That happens. I'm not going to be sitting there thinking logically like, okay, this is what they can do and this is what they're going to do and we need to do. I don't think she was thinking that. Well, she could have get C12. One thing you could have done is thought about survival and she wasn't quite thinking that cuz you just keep going. You sir Rozier than sit there and say, oh Rosita had that baby is one of the best fighters in our group, correct Surrey. Rosita is Rosita.

13:40 You can't compare Jews and Rosita. I'm not mad juice to the guy up and moving. Let me ask you a question. What do you remember of jewels from this series? The fact that she was Luke's girlfriend. That she calls. Loot the die. That's all I do. Okay, well, technically speaking him him being knocked down on the ground by The Walker, and hitting his head on the concrete. That's what caused him to get bit. Because I'm pretty sure Luke would have had presence of mind even though, yes, he was worried about Jules he was still fighting, he was trying to get to our, he was still fighting but that Walker grabbed him and knocked him down. And yeah.

14:30 I'm sure, you know, he probably was not in the, I mean, I'm sitting like it. He literally just fell on my. Yeah, he did. I'm standing now. He did trying to pull her because it's like, she had laid in her feet and he pulled her saying, he'll help, you know, I understand that's his girlfriend. And then we had to, we had, he had to suffer. Because he was trying to pull her and she wasn't moving because they beat her ankle and her she I mean, she had them all over. There were probably clawing at her bad, like grabbing her. Yeah.

15:12 We just couldn't get some traction. She can like I said, we don't really know much about Jules except for the fact that. Yeah. But then we have Judith, who should be passed out, getting up close and doors. You know, other viral instincts, kicked in on her too. Versus everybody else. My Ocean Side Jules was working in the cafeteria. She wasn't doing the, she wasn't even She's making some clam chowder Judith again, which I'm not gonna die. Have to do is come up in this hospital and think y'all about to have me for lunch.

16:28 Thank y'all about to have my uncle for lunch. This ain't been happy. When I say what you thought. It was. What? Yes, not at all. Now the first time watching it I was so I was upset when Luke was on that table all cut up you know they try to save his life And I was upset. Same time watching. I was like, oh, this sobbing, that was a family girl, let's, let's say do this. I need to go to another room. That's a family, you leave them alone. Why don't you? Oh, my God. I'm sitting there next time Casey. I'm like okay I know everybody else in this field is crying because I can hear all the sniffles and sighs. ABS, but when I tell you ugly cry going on because I think, even though I so look has been one of my little favorite Side characters on the show just

18:00 because he represents a portion. I feel like of the zombie apocalypse that still kept who he was at his court. Yeah. I know what I'm saying, and I love that about him. Like, all of this ugliness, it didn't change. Change the way he was. It didn't change. He was a tab as a person, he was still hopeful, he was still optimistic and sometimes in the midst of all this grittiness, you need to have a person like that. Now, we knew when he was gone for so long and he comes back to magically showed up a few episodes ago, we already knew he was going to die. Okay. Correct. We already knew this and then AMC kind of sort of spoiled it by posting a photo. And so we already Yeah, but it was and it was him. I guess that was when he was, you know, when he got knocked down, feel because again, he had a knife in his hand. He was trying to kill those Walkers when he got knocked down.

18:56 So that's why the knife was there. But we didn't know what that photo was we just knew. Oh, that's definitely Luke on the ground. He is definitely dying. So we will prepare But I think the women's performance in this made it even more harrowing, because if you think about it, this whole group, this is the group that started the new era of the show together, they did and they survive this whole time, just for Luke to die right at the end and emotional. I mean, I was emotional first time, but looking at the second time it was a lot. But also I mean, man. Man, y'all had him suffering, I mean you're cutting off legs and he bleeding all over the place.

19:43 I'm like this is the worst death ever. I mean if you think about it they went to the hospital thinking they were going to have access to medical supplies. Not knowing Pamela's bitch ass kicked all of the supplies. So it was like a horrible death. I mean, it really was. However, I would have crime or if he died on Fantastic Beasts but that's just me, I'm about to kick you off this podcast know because I love him on there, so I would probably be more sobbing if it happened there. Didn't on here. I'm not because I don't ever want him to ever leave that show. But I'm just saying I would have been sobbing like that. If it was on the other movie here, I was like okay Luke has passed away.

20:27 Let's get out of here. Now, let's move on, let's move on. Import Judith look so pale. I was like, you know what, this girl has been through it. But like I said, last episode, are you really a Grimes if you had been shot? Yeah, that's true. Missed shot. I like good old, Darrell good old ERA with the, the old blood and the crazy. That's what was going to happen. But that line about Meryl, used to make me sell it. When we were kids girl that was horrible. Lauren that was horrible because that is such a cool thing to do. Yeah, he's like oh you old positive. Oh yeah, we need some money to sell your blood. Need a little bit of change.

21:36 And just the fact that it was just one of those things where he was like, okay. Yeah, mmm. So you know how to do this and, you know, Carole knows how to do it because she's probably been helping Ezekiel in the clinic, but the fact that he was just like, oh yeah, my blood goes with everybody, I can pass it out, like King gave Luke. So I'm like, we need to do to stay on Hilltop when we need a Mud and stuff. Come on there. There's nothing much blood that they could have saved loop. I mean, I think they knew it at the time because I mean, Kelly was in Earnest trying to wrap his leg but Cumbia, it was over, it's over, it was too much blood, too much blood and you can play the music when you go to sleep.

22:24 You know what music man. They had to teach it to the children, keep it alive. So you're the Luke The Music Man. The look, The Music Man. Auditorium. That would be nice, but if they did, they probably need in our dreams.

23:04 Well, we his friends. They probably did. They did have a, you know, a place called Luke's music or something. Yeah, I'm sure they went to Governor Ezekiel and was like, we should do this Angela to come up with a moniker other than Governor because, you know, we don't have a good. Good track record with government has. No, we do not and doctors but thankfully he and told me beat that curse, right, you know? Okay, so let's start on this. So I believe at one point, one of you two said that Tommy was going to die, probably me, but he survived, we'll get to the other ones like a whole bunch of people should have died, whatever, whatever.

23:58 Don't know why I was very happy that once people to die but with people as skilled as ours and no, because they, they came up with is really not, Aaron was going, thank you. Hey, y'all were all cases will tell you when we're are evaded. All the way to the end. I was dancing in my seat. She was just like, oh Lord, I was like, oh, I can't wait to talk to you. I'm Michelle about this on the podcast because I have been saying it all along. The air was not going to die. And just as I thought I thought it was gonna die by sacrificing himself. That would be really nice and cool.

24:46 I'm glad you're all wrong about. Now, I would say I was wrong about Lydia or Ezekiel. I was surprised about that because I thought one of the other was going to die and then I was like, okay was also wrong about you thought Elijah? Yeah, that's why I do that. I'm sorry. And I said Ezekiel but I meant Elijah because yeah, Lydia got her arm cut off. I was like, oh yeah. Bellagio with Jerry. So we're going to be part of that crowd. That was coming through the Estates and they were but not in the dead since they came rushing through right before they close the doors. I was like, yes, I think I actually did that in the whole lot of yelling going on in that theater and it was so sweet with Elijah and Lydia Lydia when they got together and he was kissing her head, I was like lowing. They don't have they don't get mad. We have some keys in the future.

25:43 I love it when our babies right now, who, who also saw the dad but they made a good point of not killing her. Pamela, Pamela before they made that point. I was like shoulder. And then after he made the point of, this is being in jail, will be worse for her. I'm like, oh yeah. Yeah. Oh, he don't die. Yeah, he knows. Lance Lance, so she won't be like, take me, Lance, take me.

26:24 Take me lay eggs. Is she going slowly? Hey, take my cheek, let's take it. Was it? Just me or did it seem like in the end? Pamela may have felt a little bit more for less than she was letting on because when she saw him as a walker the way. The end of everything, the two people who were the closest to her. Because regardless of how she felt about Lance, or whatever know him since before the fall, she's not right.

27:06 Like they grew up. They were up to. So now your son is gone. The person that you've known the longest and who probably knew you the best honestly. It's gone too and it's supported your cause. So now you are surrounded by our people. Mercy General, Mercer. And all the Commonwealth Soldiers, the Commonwealth soldiers who had your back but realize you were trash and turned on you and all these thousands of people, you had sitting outside your Gates standing there watching them beg to come in and you wouldn't open the door while you was gonna watch them get Torn to Pieces, right? Those are the only people and wasn't it. Wonderful that father Gabriel the Who closed out all his? People was the one who let the people back to me. Yes, it was Redemption Redemption. We had some very good Redemption arts in this series. We did we have to talk about that nigga in a magazine. Like finally apologized.

28:15 I was crying. That was going to come after. He basically found himself in the same situation just the night before with his pregnant wife and for him to be like, look, I know, I probably owe you more than this, but I am so sorry for what I took from you and what I took from your son and Maggie's face was kind of like, oh wait, I wasn't expecting that. Yeah well no she would and it was just one of those. Those, I don't think she know how to process it at first and she just, you know, she took the rifle from him because he had taken the rifle, he was gonna go try and kill Pam, because as he said, if you do this, it stays with you, you don't come back from this and you have to come back because I think he saw when she killed the Reapers.

29:12 Oh, okay. Yeah, you know what? She is one step away from Crossing that line to where she can't come back from And I think being in the position where you are now on the other end of all of that and you get to see. I'll so this is what it was like for people who were living under my fear, under my rule you know looking in the mirror is a great thing sometimes just how much of an ass you are. And again I know there are still people out there who don't like niggas character who You will never forgive him. What for, what he did. And I understand it, I get it, but to sit here and ignore a story like his like, it would be different if it was just like if it was all of a sudden, he was a chain. Yeah, that would be hard.

30:05 Mmm, it was over the course of years and it gave. It was to the point where there were some times when we didn't know what Negan was going to do, or what way he was going to go. And so the fact that we got to see, Him go from this evil person to this prisoner to a person who is basically suicide or like, kill me. I don't want to live like this and then we get to see the way he was before all of this started, how he was a loving husband, you know, when it mattered to his wife, when he tried to do everything to save her, the way he was with the kids, the way he tried to, you know, contribute to his own way and still, Kind of steak back from everyone on and even when he like I've earned this, I deserve to be here, just seeing the whole Arc of his character.

31:02 You can't say that. It wasn't a well-written Redemption story. It was. And he even said it last week, if you haven't been paying a, we said, if you haven't been paying attention. Yeah, he said you all are better than I'm thinking, I don't know, they know that you have them and people are not paying attention but I but I mean, I even love how she explained. How she just can't be around him. And this is the reason why I'm not just going to sit here and say these just walk away from me. I'm going to tell you exactly why I'm having a difficult time. That conversation was so like when she needed to hear all that. Yeah, he did. All he was doing was finding people, taking out people not getting Who they were and then of course we see once you get to know who a person is and what they were and all of these things. Yeah.

31:58 You you took out your threat so to speak. But you also ruined the whole bunch people glass mmm-hmm, and not only that, but you took out. People who could have possibly been assets to you. Had you approach that from a different way but I mean we see that old on hold on they also had approached a different way to but we can what I mean and I understand that that's what I was about to say but we've seen that throughout the series because again there have been times when our people have been like okay well if they can't fall in line then we're going to take it. Rick said that about the Alexandria's, how is that not different from what? Now yes the ways that they went about some of those Things totally different, totally different. You know I don't see Rick using coercion to say okay where y'all going to be my wives.

32:50 I'll know I'll do this if y'all marry me or whatever rip one of done that but then again Michelle wouldn't have been for that shitty. Well I mean you said that he had a someone as his equal what a different perspective which allowed him to not fall into Kill him and take this shit, right? That's and I think that's the thing too, because if you if you look at the way, Neil Young was with certain people. The other wives that he had I'm not going to say, okay? I'm going to be honest. Okay? Aside from knowing the fact that it was basically a transactional relationship.

33:38 Oh, okay. Well, I'll save you, if you be my wife, whatever. Whatever. We never really saw him. Like we never saw him being abusive towards them. We know it was implied. Yeah. But I feel like he was doing that with some of the I don't want to say weaker ones but the ones who were more scared of him. But if you notice the women who stood up to him, Sherry, Sasha, Michelle. Even when he was being an asshole towards them, he still had a little bit of respect for them as well, you know what I'm saying?

34:20 I don't know, maybe if Lucy, well, of course, if Lucille had lived he would, he probably would never have become that purse, right? And then you, then you have to look at it was a power power play because it was wise of husbands to keep the husband's in place. So we We know that some things happen, it may be so wise, he never even, you know, touched that we or touch is just that they can become my wife because I need your, your husband tag, right? You're killing this place, the previous leader. Hmm.

35:03 So If you're thinking about it from his point of view, okay, I need to make sure all these motherfuckers fear me so that there's no attempt to, you know, create an uprising because I mean, if you think about it, had Simon lived a little bit longer. He probably would have challenged Negan at that point, because they were all at some point feeling dissatisfied with how nigga was handling, the whole rig situation. Oh yeah, because they were like, oh, these people giving you a hug I'm you need to go on and kill them. Right? Why are why isn't even a discussion, right? But I think that was part of It may have been part of the old Negan saying, okay, you know what, maybe we don't have to do all of this stuff like I'm gonna, I'm gonna do what I need to do just to make sure that that fear level is still there, but we don't have to go overboard. I mean, think about it, let's be honest. In the circle.

36:04 He could have killed everybody. He could have gone back to Ali could and killed everybody, because they went in and killed about a hundred of his people. Supposedly, that's true. Ooh, gotta Beasley kill somebody and like he said, he was only going to take one. Abraham could have been just it. Now we know that wasn't going to happen because of the way the storyline happened in the comics. The way that they, they wanted that to play out but things could have been so different. But now I just really want the story to move forward because if you think about it, it's been 12 years. People grow people learn from their mistakes. People can come to regret the things that they've done, they can't go back and change it.

36:58 He can never go back and change it. He can't bring Glenn back, he can't bring Abraham back, he can't right. The wrongs that he did with Sherry and why any of the other wives that he had. He can't change any of that, right? But like Ezekiel said, in the last episode, it's what you do from this point forward that matters, right? So he did he, you have to see that. Between serving time and helping others that people can change. Because if you ultimately say it that, okay he did that, he can't change. So we going to hate him forever. That's not fair because you hope that if you did something wrong and you redeem yourself that you hope people see that you made changes and changes for the better.

37:45 Right. And I mean, all of us, like I haven't smashed anybody's head in with a baseball bat, but I'm sure at some point in my life, I probably We have hurt somebody to the point where they felt that kind of grief, we are all done that intentionally or not intentionally. I wouldn't want somebody to hold that over me for the rest of my life. Because I may eat, I even made a mistake, or maybe I did do something intentional, but if I learn from it and regret it and want to change for the better, should I be allowed to do that and try to make amends? And yep, you should necessary. But, you know, that's going to be, that's going to be a debate. That's probably going to take possession. That's a real debate that people have every day when people, you know, get out of prison.

38:33 Oh, he going to be the same. Oh, he, he not gonna do nothing with his life. He just, you know, that, that's something that goes on now. Yeah, people don't once you do someone bad thing, every you're a forever associated with that bad thing, whether you come out and, you know, give to charity And turn your life around. So I'm Boys and Girls Club a mentoring program and people still look like, oh, that's the man. They killed such a second. So now, you know, that one event erases everything else you've ever done and and not just with killing somebody, you know, I'd be women, you know? Oh, that's the lady. Who did such slept with Ali people and how she get married and you know, it's that old adage of yeah, turn the whole into a housewife but some man has, oh no you why you do that?

39:22 Like he can't change like she could have been going through something and this is why she was a tea that helped therapies that whatever she needed to do to change her life around, but that stigma of you is still there. And that's all that is is like people have to make a choice. Oh yeah. I used to be this. What LTI the same person I was 15 years ago, right? Would you still hold me to work 15 years ago? 25 years ago like before I had kids When I was in the streets, you know what I mean? If you looked at me, like, I was 25 years ago, you know, that's more than enough time for me to have changed my life. You know, it was like, you gotta give people a chance to grow and do better and I think he has done that. Yep, much.

40:14 We'll see. Who was this city comes out. Right. And did we see him at the end in the Q. We we got a mention of him. He sent Judith back her watch. So he's off and one of the other communities because I think when Lydia and Elijah came to the Commonwealth, they way broadening like letters from other people. Okay? Okay. So I think that probably, you know, they're communicating between Alexandria and the Commonwealth's, I don't know, Negan could be somewhere else, you know, they could have found another community. Or started another Community or maybe he went back to a hotel.

40:56 Yeah. Two people and went somewhere and maybe that's where he is. And they're just all like coexisting the way that they were, you know, back when Hilltop in the Kingdom. Yeah. We're how many maybe they went to Kingdom 2.0? You know, Georgie real, and well, they going to be wherever a doctor. Beautiful. In person Beauty, for we didn't even realize it was her. She's so beautiful. I didn't realize that we are seeing her. Yeah, wrapped up. She had on this cutout in the face and the hair down, and the makeup. And let me tell you all of those, some of those stars that came out like wheat, you know, some of them, you're going to recognize the some of them have changed so much. And I don't like not in a bad way like I forgot somebody Is there?

41:54 Oh, the girl who played um Why can't we? No, no, well, her to, because I'm not because I wasn't used to her without the short hair. So, when I saw her, I kept looking like, I know who that is, and I didn't realize it was her, until I came, you know, got back to the hotel and saw her, it's her Instagram, and I was like, wait a minute. Oh yeah, Carol's Daughter. You mean Carol's daughter? No, no, we're talking about. Annie Egan, why? Okay, because I was just surprised a pair of doors and oh my gosh. Right on.

42:34 Wow. But who else was there? What was her name? She was the she was the chick from Oceanside that got killed when they were trying to get through the herd. Short hair. I know her name is Brianna in real life. I can't think of what our character's name was but she was there and she was blond and I didn't realize who it was until like later on. I happened to catch it from a glance and I was like I know her. So it was in Terror a lot of Masterson. She? Oh yeah no she was there, she was up on stage and I was like You know, I see her all the time because she has she and Christian Serratos are like best friends. So I see her on her Instagram all the time but when I'm thinking about the show, I'm remember Terror with the long straight hair or the ponytail and she had their shot and I was just like, it's so weird.

43:45 Seeing them, like, in front of me, glammed up and not and Walking Dead covered in dirt and blood and mud and good, right? Right. But okay we got some other things we got to talk about. We're not going to talk about this a stuff yet. Let me tell you princess blasted Mercer out of the jail baby baby. Get back in. I was like I'm going to get my main man and I miss it the first time but that same time I hurt baby. I was like okay she forgave she gave that sister little time to get her Huggy.

44:41 Right. I guess he's right if he jumped. Yes. They get an honorable mention for a coordinated outfits at the end. I'm just saying, yeah, I'm his dark purple suit. She was so funny because when they have multi colored purple outfit on purple beads across the forehead, I was like, ooh, yeah, yes. The lieutenant governor. Yes, what was it? You miss not to me.

45:24 It's a good thing to see. Two brothers in charge leading the way I gots no problem with it. Oh, and Ezekiel can't get away from that. He's always going to lead and whatever born to. Yeah, so I mean let's see making rent from that. He tried to, he will always be. Yes Governor e, Come the E, how you feel? I can't King Of Me.

46:14 Okay, you know. Come on. I'm on. Okay, we got to talk about Miss badass, Rosita motherfucking Espinosa, and she was. Yes, he was. She was super Mama Bear, man. Let me tell you, John week in that apartment. What? What? What is the messy? Yeah, it was great. Yes, all the babysitters. You got somebody to care. And she walks in, and she thinks that her baby is gone.

46:55 She hears that crying. She takes off down that hallway and I mean, literally, she runs in the door, a Walker's behind the door. Grabs her arm, she turns around hits him. There's another walk in front of her, she shoots him, she turns around to the first Walter she shoots him. There's Walker on the ground. Now, what they did was we talked about this because we thought we seen the clip of this. Whoever the babysitter was Had enough foresight to try to protect the kids, the best. They can they turned the crib over? On the babies? There were three babies there. I know, one of them was Coco. One was Jerry and nabila's, baby. I don't know. Who the third one was. Somebody said it might have been baby Adam, but I'm like, baby. Adam should be like toddler Adam at this point. I feel like this The Walking Dead world. So anyway, yeah, she goes in rescues her baby. They rescue the kids.

47:49 Now, this is the part. That I have a little bit of problem with even though watching it again tonight. I was like, okay, I can kind of sort of understand but no. So they're all everybody's on their way to Rendezvous at the hospital where Judith and Daryl and Carol and all of them are. But what happens is Rosita Eugene and Gabriel their ride. One is not working to, they had to, they had to go through a horde, they're surrounded by Walkers. They get out of the ambulance and they start fighting, and there is like a little, you know, storm pipe on the wall.

48:31 Leading up to an open window. Rosina is telling Eugene to go up the pipe and he's like, no, you first. And she was like, I'll be behind you. Now, at first I was wondering, I was like, why would she let Gabriel and Eugene go up first and not her. The only thing that I can think of is one Eugene is the weaker. Yep. Three like. Yeah, Eugene has Eugene, has come up, Eugene can handle his own but still when it comes to Pure strength I think out of the three she is the strongest and she is skilled fighter.

49:13 Yes to we're also holding babies and I okay I'm gonna say it from my mama's point of view. We know how to handle our shit holding a child and getting other things done. Not be used to that Gabriel, maybe a little bit because he is Coco's father, and he does not, he is not ever seem like the type of person to be like, okay, well you gonna handle her and I'm gonna go over here, my undo that. Because if that was the case, why even claimed her as your daughter in the first place, she's not biologically yours, but he takes care of her, so he probably knows how to maneuver around to. Yeah, but he's the show. Shooter. Yeah. Floor the shooter. Hmm.

49:54 He had, you know, he had the gun Eugene is probably the least experienced out of all three of them fighting wise and child wise now. Yes, he is. Also taking care of Coco. That's Coco's uncle, but not to the point where he's going to be able to protect whoever is child. He has and fight off the Walkers and climb the pole. That's my thing. Is it going to take him a minute? Climb poles. So I'm good over here, fighting. Them while it takes him time to climb the pole. Yep. And then plus, he'd be easier to just pull up if they them to rise, right? Hmm. We can't pull up Eugene.

50:35 He will be like, I'm sorry, dude. Just tell me the baby. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So the thing is, they get up the pipe, Eugene gets up, Gabriel gets up Rosita's, going up. But at this point, the herd is on her. They're pulling at her clawing at her and she can't, she can't get a grip on the wall, like the other two. Could she reaches out for them? And they're all of a sudden you see her falling backward and I tell you I missed it when we watched it live because everybody at this point was screaming and hollering Eugene's Rosita that was probably the worst sound I heard in this episode just the way. Because you know he feels like he's watching his best friend. Go to her death.

51:31 Yeah. And I think Gabriel was like I'm coming. I think he was trying to he was trying to go to her. And she slipped before he could get out that window. Good. And then the fight started. Because Rosita gets up, she's got her weapon in her hand. She is slicing and dicing these Walker. She's protecting her baby. She jumps up on top of his fire truck and then she jumps over to the wall again. And this time, she's finally able to get up when I tell you the damn Orpheum Theater went nuts. Crazy nuts, Terry full-time.

52:17 Like, people were screaming and still trying to hear what was going on, but it It was like everybody was so emotional because we just knew Rosita was dead and then when she got up, everybody was cheering, everybody was screaming. And we thought it was okay. We should have known better. Because after all the shit happens and they get a chance to kind of sit down and rest, she's over by the fireplace playing. With Coco Eugene is over sitting, Max's taking a nap with her being in his lap. I heard somebody say that's right Eugene. You besides them feet was that you Kasich who It's almost like he's collecting himself to say anything, but at that point I still was not, I was not putting it together when he said, I can't wait for summer and he starts talking about taking cocoa to Oceanside to teach her how to swim and she will not look at him.

53:30 And I think the first thing is after he said, I can't wait for summer, you could see a tear coming down her face. Face. And I was just sitting there like and you hear everybody in the theater go oh shit. No all you hear all this like Collective disbelief and the way that let me tell you Christian Serratos in this fucking episode I mean on the regular anyway but in this episode The Quiet strength that she had for Rosita. Once Rosita knew what her fate was going to be, I could not Stop crying. Like, when she finally sat there, told he was like, Rosita when you fail, did you?

54:15 And she just kind of looks at him and he was just like, is that can when she's like, nope, he knew he couldn't save his friend and she knew it. Yeah, she's trying to tell him. She's like, when you been on your back? Yeah, nothing nothing to cut off. One of them cut off. You have your choice and you know, I'm curious about because if you look at the way she fell, she found this way on her back. No, of course you would have gotten up and turned around but with that jacket that she has on, I don't see how a walker could have bit her now, I did see, I think it was a behind-the-scenes photo, I'm not sure if it was real or fake of her with her shoulder exposed and she was looking over her shoulder, like somebody was taking a picture of her injury and it was, it looked like her skin had been torn off like Might one of the Walkers grabbed her and towards some of her skin off that seems a little more likely to me. Especially considering she fell down. They were all grabbing at her when she was but a scratch it won't kill you.

55:32 It depends, I mean when I'm not talking about scratch like her flesh was torn off, right? So if they had gotten, if they had gotten their fingernails or anything in her in her Exposed Skin, that would that would have exposed her to It if you think we could yeah was that really in you so right? Yeah but I was just quiet. because I guess if depending on how you fall and it rolled over together and that's when one dagger on their bed. Cuz when she came, when she popped up, she popped up this way, but she landed on her back.

56:14 So she flipped over and got up and start swinging. That's true. Rolled over to protect the baby and realize, oh, I still can pop up. Yeah, because I can't and I think at that point she probably wasn't even think about herself. She was like, I'm not about to let my child become a meal. That is right. And really, is he rolls over and they took her, right?

56:56 And if they took her, the baby would be underneath and be okay. That They would just have to hurry up once the storm moves to get her off of the baby. She did the right thing by flipping over. Oh when she sat there and she looked at him and she was like she was like I need you to pull your shit together. Yes he did. I'm still here. When she said that I lost it I lost it just the way that she said it I was done. I was done. I was like y'all really feeling to make us lose Rosita but I was like at that point I was like, okay. We don't have any of the big deaths in the episode and I felt like at that point because at that point everybody was safe, then they had already, you know, they had already saved the people the people or no not yet but they you know Judith had been taken care of for the most part I just felt like yeah I don't think they're going to give us any other big death. I was kind of wondering once they got to the part where they We're trying to take back the Commonwealth from all the Walkers.

58:11 I was like, okay, we might get one more death but no, it didn't happen and I am glad I don't care what y'all say. I don't need to have multiple deaths for seriously. I don't need to be depressed. What are tracing? I'm depressed enough that the show is over. I didn't need to be morning. Welcome to the do. We definitely could have had one more, just one. It's like you tell me that you like like T's that made it seem as this. These people were gonna die and different points throughout the show. It's like all this foreshadowing. I'm like, the fact that they didn't die because they did that shit. So much with us with Glenn, that I was like, no, uh-uh if you're feeling don't, don't give me the teeth, but I like how Rosie the wig.

59:05 She was able to have a Thanksgiving dinner. Thanksgiving dinner with all her loved ones. If and she was a nice room. Nice pretty rude and wasn't out in the wilderness. Nice pretty room. Lay with her baby for a while had visitors. Let me just say Bill prayed over and then they did. I must say it's very light. That's the way to go. It's very rich in that type of world. You see? I'm saying that type of world, but I will say for the final time Judith asked me to stay out of grown folks business, all in the business watching, what anybody else? Stay in the child place and then she realized what she had been a child since.

59:54 She's been a child. So she should have said her child, the child table paying attention, what they was doing. But no, you all in all in adults faces. See what the hell they doing, whatever she pretty much was doing the same thing. Rosita where she was like my family is here. My family is safe and I think she was really just looking around at the people that she loved, like, we're all here. And we're all okay and she just happened to look over she's smiling at her unti. Her teaching Rosita and she realizes, she's just like, you know, again, Judith is not a child in the regular sense of the word when she picked, right. But what she picked on was Gabriel because I have a plan right here and he looking wait a second, what Rosie the acting like.

1:00:46 She look distant, little funny. He kept saying, are you? Okay, this is perfect. I want to remember this moment and he was like wait what? Why don't you tell the look, I think he tried to hide it. But when she turned around she when she was holding his hand and she turned around to look at him as she wiped her face. I think that's when Judith. No, because again I mean it's kind of obvious is one of those things where it's like, okay just like we didn't know they broke up but we knew they broke up. He's one of those, right? And he is, she crying and Silent tears and he the whole time. She was just like, look, my people are safe, my daughter is safe, everybody that I love is safe and I'm sure at that point. She probably also figured out, you know, maybe Judith had told her or you know, Darryl had said something about. Oh, so the reason why Michonne didn't come back is because she out looking for Rick.

1:01:57 So maybe in her mind to she thought. Oh, okay. They're going to come back and everything is going to be okay. and she was at peace, she was like, okay, you know what, we're good, they're good, they'll be okay, once I leave Your main concern at the uni easy. Either way, at the end was Coco, you want to make? Sure Coco was going to be. All right, and she know she had father gave her, she know she got her best friend Jean. Yeah. They going to take a break. Here she is okay. Period. At the end of the day right now, I the people who came to see her, the people who were with her when she died. You had Carol and Maggie who brought her in the room and these are the people who, you know, out the group, some of them, you know, who knew her the longest, like, literally her introduction to Maggie was, oh we got to go, I mean, we got to go save my sister that whole thing with them, taking them to the hospital and Beth being brought out Rosita was there for that. You know what shit?

1:03:03 Yes, that was that was the introduction of a. Riham Eugene and Rosita. So was so they pulled up in the fire truck. Yeah, they pulled up, they pulled out and that was and that was when they pulled up at the church just as they were getting ready to go to Atlanta because Maggie and found out that Beth was alive. So, no one showed them where to go. They pulled up. Because when she was hacked, when she was over there, falling out on the ground, Rosita and Abraham and Eugene, were off to the side like looking. Like, we don't know what to do. And then you had Carol, you had Darrell standing in the doorway. I was like, I'm kind of glad they didn't give us a goodbye scene with Darryl and Rosita, because again, I feel like those two were like, brother sister and they had a really good relationship.

1:03:59 And if I had seen Daryl have that kind of scene with her, I would lost it again, but just the fact that he was just sitting there kind of hovering like, you know, he probably already said his goodbyes, they probably already said their goodbyes and they probably We went something like don't you get all sappy I ain't getting fat be you know that sort of thing because that's right. That's kind of the relationship they had so just sitting him sitting there watching him watch her and then seeing her final moments with her baby and her final moments with gabrus kind of like she and Gabriel exchange that glasses kind of like I don't have to say it but you know you know takes the baby he walks out and then Here Comes Eugene and I was just like - and he To Gabriel tells of will see you again. But I'm a girl.

1:04:50 I'm like snotty nose face, all swollen crying just Done. Yes. He's like Rosita. He was like what do you say? I wouldn't be half the man I am. If it weren't for you and she said, I'm glad it was you and the end and then she peacefully dies off. And I was just like And then the next time we see him it's at a little bit, got a baby named Rose who obey them Rosie. And it's at the little, the little Memorial Fountain, which we going to talk about the fountain fountain in a minute, we gotta go back a little bit, but I had to go ahead and get the Rosita stuff out because I still can't watch that.

1:05:39 And I'm, and then I'm glad they didn't. So was like, who had to You know, enter life Eugene. That's why she said it. So she's like, I'm glad I'm glad it's you, I hate that he had to do it, I know, but I'm just saying they had to be just, you know, I got some tears now had be heartbroken, of course so he loves her. Sorry Max. And when when no I don't I think at that point had evolved to something different, but when I know but it's just it's the love that he has for Rosita and the respect he has for real Rosita and just the type of person she was. I'm just saying, you know, I'm just being realistic, couples therapy, I'm being realistic here. You're staying, I'm staying the same type of love, but, you know, come times.

1:06:42 He'd be like, oh, she not Rosita? I'm just saying he loves Max. But they gonna be some sometimes he went rope, see one Rosita, okay, all right. Keep going. But when I tell you, when he was sitting there trying to get it in his mind that she was going to die. He just said, it's just that. I love you so much and she just looked him. She was like, I love you. I can't even. I can't even do it. I know this is deep. Because we don't get things like that in the show. Now, often, when do you like really when do you, when do you really have time to actually sit there?

1:07:25 A process, the most deadly dies. Yeah. You don't get it very often and they've had and this world. And they got a real chance to descend all she got. Nobody ever got. Nobody not know because nobody else was was peaceful. I mean even if you think Carl, no. Carl wasn't peaceful though. Remember they had had this whole thing where they were getting away from me again though. I wasn't I wasn't even thinking about that. I just I just was thinking that they had time time to prop. You know I'm saying? Process. Time to talk to him, time to talk and I will, I'm more thinking of that type of piece that he was around his family. Then these other ones who are on the ground and your goods. Being poured out and you just done and they got to run away. But I Was Bob and his was even his was after a trauma because he had

1:08:58 been taken by the, by the terminal people. They had taken his leg back eating attainment. Meet hey baby baby came back into the church. Rick killed them and you know, everybody got killed. Yes, he got a chance to be in you know in a bed and you know, Sasha was there with him. Tyreese was there with him, but Still that was it wasn't peaceful the way that Rosita Rosita was like, you said, she was able to have enjoy your meal, seeing everybody happy. And then after everybody had that happiness, that's probably when she had to when she wrote the news and I'm so glad we didn't see that either.

1:09:43 I would have been able to make it. I would have been able to make it now. Let's get to the good part. The whole purpose of us being here. Wait, we still, will you talk about the end? Okay, no we still got Pamela. Okay, yeah, she in jail. It was nice. We got to talk about that Scooby-Doo. Playing that came up with, like we like, I feel like we're the video game. Okay, everyone go to the central Corner, don't you get two essential Corner, make a right stay together. We'll meet up at the made medical Bay. I was like, are we in the video game? Like we transition real quick to get. Okay.

1:10:24 So they blew up some walkers, but I like what Darrell said to convince Pamela? Well, you didn't really convince Pamela you convinced, what did you call that woman? Next, Pamela, Do you yes the fake General convinced him not to kill father Gabriel when he was opening the door and he's taking no, come on people. Come on. We should not be doing this, right? We are not The Walking Dead. The Walking Dead. I'm sorry we ain't The Walking Dead with my super blood.

1:11:04 We ain't the walking Dead enemies besides each other. Like it doesn't have to be this way but he was. You trying so hard to make the new world like the old world. He said that was a fucking old. Eagles old, all of this stuff. There's a reason why the world felt it work. Yep.

1:11:46 So, why would you want to go back to that? We've been saying this from jump. Because she was like that's why people hire people that are empowered once remain in power right in the middle of a fucking zombie apocalypse, right? I want to be, that's why her son. Her son was going to be in her son was going to be in charge. I mean, they wouldn't even have a no no elections. So then head over to General, Mercer arrests are for treason after she arrested him for his fair play and then what are the better?

1:12:29 They let, they let the people in the gates. Then again, father Gabriel was the one who did this. He started walking towards the gays, all the Commonwealth soldiers. Have their guns on him to like stop or we'll shoot. He was like, I'm letting these people in and I'll kill anybody who tries to, I was like, right, right. But he also do, he has damn backups around him like a motherfucker. Shoot him. Excuse me, y'all shoot his ass. Are we gonna shoot you? Oh, and they didn't even know where Megan nigga was. At that point? They just all of a sudden. Oh, let's let Walker Lance's head. Just exploded like, oh, where'd that come from? Oh yeah, he met.

1:13:18 Hey, boo. Did they had a secret plan to blow up all the nice houses with The Walking Dead? Am I standing Apartments now? Wherever they keep their fuel reserves, which I'm not surprised.

1:14:12 It's right there in the rich part of town. So they go get the fuel, they set these traps, they put the fuel in the suit, like in the sewer tunnels, they put them upstairs and they jerry-rigged a record player so that when it when the arm came off the record player, they was a little spark and it set off all the fuel drums. Now the sad Thing is or the funny thing is depending on which way you want to look at it, they show the surroundings of the house that all the fuel that the fuel drums were in. And all you see is old pictures of Pamela and Sebastian, and her husband. I was like, oh yeah, I'm gonna blow up Pamela's house. Make sure she really doesn't have anything to look forward to.

1:14:59 So, so any nothing, no pictures nothing, right? So in that sense, Another. I feel sorry for her because now you hit you really have nothing left to remember your son by. But yeah, she kinda deserve it. And did you notice that the jail cell they put her in was not one of the nice ones? Like they had Mercer is submitted? I mean, mercy and Lansing. They gave her like a thug doubt. It didn't even have no padding on the wall. None. It get cold enough. Mmm. Question. So because they did that. And it's, it's one of two things, either the Upper Crust Community, was far enough away that it didn't affect the other community or was their pipeline system, totally different. Because how did it only blow up that and not get to the rest of the area?

1:15:56 How do you understand what I'm saying? If you look, if you look at the aerial views, but they For right now. It's far away. It looks far away. It is they got like a nice thick forest between the regular folks and the rich people because they were probably in the old world. Separate communities and just when the Commonwealth started getting built, they probably put around a wall around the whole thing. Hmm, that's what I'm thinking, but either way it goes with that was my question. I don't see the Walkers coming through, they're coming from the woods.

1:16:42 All right, the herd so but yeah, I was feeling I was feeling a little bad. I was like oh Judith, your little friend is at the door, she was at the gate, I was like okay Pamela and and the crazy thing was Pamela was standing there looking at them trying to get into the gate. I got to a point where the soldier was shooting up. Like the people who climb the walls, they were shooting them off the walls light. We just go shoot your people, you know? And that's the reason why she's not in power. Now, that's the reason why our soldiers turned on her. Because if you think about it from the soldiers point of view, okay?

1:17:22 If you're going to let the quote-unquote lower people go first, who's going to be next in line us and then he'll, that's probably where some of them live or they say families that they she was like oh that means they'll go to the Lord's first. Yeah, the lower Wars is where all the soldiers is. That's where all the regular folk regular info are. They're not up there with Pamela her people, but notice you didn't see none of Pamela's people around. So I don't know what happened to them know. They were in the house when they were told you either gonna stay and get blown up, are you going to come out with us and help? And they came out and help? They were able to pack a bag Pamela could they got to take a couple pictures with him and found them apartment or north side and held it?

1:18:11 Happy some accommodations unless they just had big ass houses with only one or two people one and and that that that is possible. But let's go talk about something else. So we can say Way into Casey's favorite parts fit. Yes. So during one of the most one of the parts where Judith has regained Consciousness, this is the first time that she gains Consciousness and she's still very weak and she's looking around. She's trying to figure out where she is. She has there. She's like, where am I? He was like you're in the hospital. She was like, why why am I going to die? And he was like, no, you're not going to die. She was like, it feels like I'm gonna die, but I can't die. Because mom's going to get Dad and she's gonna bring them back and we're going to be together again. We're gonna be a family.

1:19:05 Don't look Barrel space. Like what the fuck do you want to get that? It's almost like he was trying to figure out if she was telling the truth or if she was doing moved away from the blood loss and then the second time that she regains Consciousness after they've gotten her, to told me and told me he's done, surgery to, you know, get the bullet out and everything she looks at him and she was like, what I said about Mom and Dad, he was like, is that true? Ooh, she said it's why she never came back. I was scared to tell you because I thought you would leave to and Daryl and Carol are looking at each other, like Rick is fucking alive. Like what's what?

1:19:49 But there was like, I'm not going to leave, I'm not going to go anywhere and, you know, she has, she has a valid reason and I've said this before, because people would like, I don't understand why she's not telling him. I'm do y'all remember that Darrell lived off the grid for 18 months, looking for looking, for Yeah he did not even come into Alexandria and take a shower or sleep in a bed because he felt like he felt a little bit of guilt and he felt like I have to find him. I have to bring him home. Even if his even if it's his body, I need some closure, we need some closure because again, I feel like Darrell feels like part of that is his fault because of what him and that Maggie were trying to do, try to go kill Negan, he was trying to distract Rick. They ended up in that damn hole with the The Walkers and I just wasted a whole bunch of time and ended up with them being in this position where Rick had to quote, unquote, sacrifice himself to save them.

1:20:46 Well, yeah, so let's talk about reaching the show. I know we got other stay awake. Now, I'm no, no, would not be required. We had to do the one year. One year, okay? Because we owe you. We don't eat with that. Yeah, but the what she wanted to say? Something about the phone. Go ahead. What's going on?

1:21:26 All that behind them was clear, everything was clear? Yeah, and that's always been a part that we never saw before, too. Not a problem. That's a lot of now that's a lot of rebuilding. Yeah. Because it's like the ground has sunken in. I don't think that that six. I think it's behind the curtain so that you don't see what's behind the curtains, they covering up, the burnt Forest behind you. That could've been a part that was already. There has been dedicated. Okay, that's Max went to a different hair store.

1:22:07 Yes, he did. Yes, he did. She have the baby. She had to get a new one, you know, hair grow when you have, you know, it's the vitamins and okay. So that was okay. Thanksgiving magnet yumiko are back together. Life is too short now come on. And you know, the funny thing.

1:22:47 Yeah. They were talking about it on Talking Dead and Eleanor met Surah was saying that when they got the script, you know, I think the kiss happened between them but then when it came to the year later part. Apparently, they weren't together anymore. Magna supposedly had a new girlfriend and she's not doing this. Can we? Right. But why would we in that Thanksgiving? Y'all kissing and in the Year lady was another feel like now we're not doing this.

1:23:49 They're kissing each other. When they, when they were, this was when Alpha infiltrated the carnival, they kissed each other to go one way and go the other way and I was like, okay, I guess they're together and then you got the one scene of them. You know, the one lovemaking scene that we had of them which I will admit was was quite hot. But his like other than that I didn't really feel like it was kind of like one of those relationships. I felt like It was kind of thrown in there, like, Rosita and gay like you have us when we first meet them. Magna is distraught because this guy who was part of the group ends up getting killed and I thought, oh, that's her boyfriend, could have been, but I never saw her and you McColl act in a way that would have suggested that they had interest in each other.

1:24:41 I just and maybe if I go back and re-watch it now, I'll probably see it but I never saw. So when they happen I was like came out of left field. Like where did that come from? I it wasn't that I didn't like it. I was cool with it once I realized. Okay. I guess that together. But again, it just felt like we would get like these intermittent scenes of them together. And then magnet disappears because of the cave. And, and then she comes back and she's angry and then she has this breakup scene when, you know yumiko, I can't do this anymore. I was like you can't do what you ain't been here to do shit. Like I was so yeah you know what? And now I'm with you too on that. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1:25:26 It was like, wait, what did I miss after? They broke up like once they got into the Commonwealth and you can Kind of see them stealing glances at each. Other Co was up here being a attorney and Magnus down here, being a server. Like, you can kind of see that they're kind of, like, I kind of want to be with you. I was like I see it more after they broke up, then I saw it before. 1800 Rosita, I never liked when they first got together. I was like this is weird. I mean him and Anwar weird him and Rosita. I was like that flew over my head. I couldn't See how that even happen especially when she has to be because I felt all the chemistry with her as-siddiq in just a few, the few scenes that we have them with that.

1:26:17 We have to see what with you. Well I got it because if you really looked at it with Gabriel was with AJ and I mean, he was laying the lines down. And that's what he did where Rosita Rosita and siddiq was like, oh we you know, we on the break, it Gabriel was at, you know, at night just talking to her. They were like well yeah, but what's the what we need to do? Let's go ahead and do it. She enjoyed it. I mean, it was their relationship. It's a lot of fun bright.

1:26:59 That was one of those relationships because I was like, that's right out of the air. Is a possibility. We may not see most of these characters again, please let them be happy. They have been fighting, and fighting, and fighting, and fighting, and fighting, For this whole time, let them have some peace. Let them have some happiness.

1:27:45 So when they kiss I was like, okay. It's like they won't get Darryl, no happiness. He got a little happiness. He rode off into the sunset. Okay, here's the other motorcycle back. So this is the other. This is the thing that did piss me off about this episode. Y'all been teasing this hole Darrell and Connie thing and it did it again, even in this episode, at the end. She sitting there having a nice little picnic with her friends. Darryl comes in. She sees him, she grabs her bag. She gets up, she runs to him, and it's just a hug. You should be like a regular conversation. Why the hell we got this?

1:28:29 I mean, you could have just left this on The Cutting Room floor. I didn't, even I didn't need this. I'm just, it was a relationship and from love what from what I want to help. I don't, I don't, I don't, I haven't read all of the interviews yet, but apparently, there was, there was an interview. Angela Kane said there, were that there were plans to go in that direction, but when Lauren RIT life left to do the eternals, it kind of missed the time line up and how they had to film things. I'm like I don't know asked if we could have the same way you through yumiko in magnets together then yes, that's all we could hear right there.

1:29:16 They could have Chic of the ran into him gave him a hug and gave him a kiss. Or did that one year after Thanksgiving dinner. I mean, And then one year later he got to leave. Yeah. It could have worked, it could have worked, we would have been here or right now, and then he ends up leaving. And then you notice that you give us something just a little something, Give him a reason to want to come back from France. However, the hell he gets But the other thing in this one year is the the scenes with Daryl and Carol. the lose my best friend and like, solidify that in writing, In writing it was on it was on my screen and closed captions.

1:30:09 Yeah, you're my best friend. Oh, okay, so for all those people who were like, yeah, they're so maze, they're meant to be together. I'm not their best friend and the thing about it is I don't even I don't ship them together. I mean, it truly feels like a best friend, soul mates. That's how they are. And to me how a killer always seemed so much older than him. Him and especially like in the beginning when he was doing all that searching for Sophia, it seemed more like she was, he was doing it. He wasn't doing it like in a romantic away. He was doing it as a, I'm your friend.

1:30:49 Let me have helped find your kid. I've always felt that I vote. Yea, it's like even thinking about them being together in that way is weird to me. Because it feels like you said, Michelle feels like best friend, soul mate. Like Like this person is closer to me than my then a brother would be closer than a sister. Like, there's immense love their, yes, but I never looked at it as romantic love and I think I think that one little scene also confirmed that as well. You know, I know that she staying behind in the Commonwealth, where is he key problems in?

1:31:31 That's who she don't get back with because they're going to get her baby, then that I have felt. Yes. Right. Many a time. Even at the beginning, when she was looking at him like he was crazy, there was something about him that she was drawn to probably because of his Ridiculousness. So even When they was right before he got kidnapped, and they in the store, I mean in the yeah, in the bakery. Even then I had a good time. I recognize your footsteps. Yes. You know me a little too. Yeah, she's like. Well, that's what? Happy some pastries when you're married to someone. I know them footsteps, naked.

1:32:14 But remember, they did have some cuddle time before he left for. Was it before he left for? We got the surgery was after the cert was member when they he brought her to the boxes, nothing happened. Talking about cuddle cuddle time. I'm talking about, they had some In Between the Sheets time before he left for the Commonwealth. You'll remember that. Yes, they slept together and when she got ready to leave, he says, yes. You know, we still working that way and she was like, that was never the problem. Yes. If you say that? Yeah. Oh yeah.

1:32:57 But that scene between them. It really felt like A goodbye. And I think it can't for me as a fan, by the way. Who wait, huh? Dear, look, Carol Daryl and Carol. It really felt like it carried more weight for me because, you know, Carol was supposed to be in the spin-off with him. And now she's not, she's staying behind. She actually has Lance's job in the Commonwealth. So she is one of the leaders of the Commonwealth. She is going to stay behind I helped make that a better place which I'm glad for but it's like that. Whoo, that's seen with them at the lake and then when he got ready to leave and he told her I loved you, she was like, I love you toes like y'all.

1:33:44 Don't do this to me, y'all, that will sleep. I was like, yeah, okay, aunt, and I love it that they're aware of it. Oh, wherever there were is going because I think when Maggie when they went to go see, Maggie. They had a conversation of she was saying, you know there I think she said there are others out there and I want to talk about that, you know, again, she's talking about, okay, we need to start expanding, we need to start building relationships and I was like, I like that, I like that. So that was doing what he was gonna do, what he was doing with Aaron, he's going out finding people finding people and he tells you that he was like if I see or hear anything.

1:34:31 Nothing, I'll bring him home. I'll let you know. I'll bring him home. Okay? And let's write my Uncle. Jerry you deserve happiness to? Yes. Your happiness is over there. Having a picnic with her. Oh yeah. Go get your girl. They better give him somebody when he goes to Paris, all I got to say.

1:35:22 Okay. Emily Woods. We you go hunt on the Eiffel Tower. I mean well I don't think I have heard some of these like leaks about some of the scenery or some of the sets that they're doing, I don't know how true they are but I don't want. I'm really getting to the point where I'm going to try to stay away from as much as I can about his show. I'll probably watch when they released a trailer, right? Even app. I want to go into this, totally Fly same with the dead City and let's go on ahead.

1:36:09 Talk about Ricky, Michelle. Yes, go ahead. First of all, just don't see how beautiful she is gorgeous. That outfit was amazing. Girl. So this is something I was just so let's talk about Michelle. Okay, carry on, at the end of the episode. and it starts out with a lot with us, you know, imagine and then you hear this dialogue, they're both speaking and they're both writing in a notebook. And it appears from the way from the things that they are saying Michonne is writing to Judith, Rick is writing to Michelle. So, from the way that the scenes play out Rick's is taking place in the past, Michelle's is taking place current current time.

1:37:19 So, Rick wherever he is, Ben He's Barefoot. Now, he has his boots, that's the thing. He has his boots. He has his bag. He has his journal, and he's also got on a Donkey Kong. He's got on a CRM jacket. Oh, and he's got a CRM staff weapon just like Silas had in the world Beyond when they were using to kill Walkers. The plot thickens. So he's having this conversation in his head with Michonne, talking about the people that he's loved and lost and the things that they taught him, and the things that she taught him and how he's holding onto that, and he's trying to get back.

1:38:09 I was like, okay, yeah, first of all, let me say. When that match struck in that theater, you could feel fucking Electricity that whole place erupted erupted to the point where I was ruptured outing. I was like y'all shut up because we didn't have closed captions on the screen. Right? Right. So you can hear him saying stuff in the background but because everybody was screaming we couldn't hear what the fuck he was saying. I was like y'all please shut up so we can hear what he's saying. Please just please shut up. But I was like, this is amazing. I have to listen to it later.

1:38:51 Yeah I was glad to just be there for that. Right. The amount of energy in that room when that match lit and we saw them curls dangling on that forehead. Absolutely. Absolutely. And then I'll Michelle's in, like I said, she's writing to Judith and what I found out later going back looking, she's writing in the same notebook, he had So that bag and everything, that's all his stuff. So, whatever he wrote to her, she's read it. She's seen it. So now she knows definitively. He is out there. That is the only reason why Michonne has stayed away this long because I feel like she had been out there searching for him and didn't have any kind of like any indication that he was out there.

1:39:41 I think she would have gone back a long time ago. She would have been a lie. Okay. Look I tried I looked For him. I lost track of him. I don't know where he could have been if he's alive but no you had this notebook and you have these boots, you know, he is out there and I think that's the only reason why she is fade away as long as she has. Yeah. And it's a conical to made me realize that when he threw the bag, he threw it on the ship that she found. Yep, that Virgil took her to while he's sitting there writing in his book. He Years or he standing at the water's edge now, apparently he is in, I think somebody said Philadelphia because that radio said, Jersey, I heard Jersey.

1:40:30 I think you're a jersey because people were trying to say he because he was in Jersey last week that they were thinking, that's what it was. I don't think that's where he was. I think he was in Philadelphia, but he standing at the water's edge and he hears a helicopter and that's when he's like, no, no. No, no, he is ready to run and he throws his book bag on on that boat. And somebody in the helicopter, you know, says well, what does he say? Comedy, come on Rick. Yeah. Commandeer Grimes. You have you abandoned your post. You need to come back immediately, blah blah blah. And then the guy says come on Rick. What what, what was it that issei you? You heard what he said?

1:41:18 There's no, there's no something for the living. There's no, I can't remember what the words were, but I was like, hmm, because Rick looks like this helicopter and he smiles. I was like, what the hell? What the hell is this? Hold on, Rosita is about to die. In my background, I have to pause my TV but I'm sitting in like, who is this? Now I need to go back now. I haven't paid attention to the voice but Currently online, people are speculating the best Giancarlo Esposito as voice. On the helicopter, I was like, okay, I got to go back and see, but Michelle, on the other hand Michonne has this nice new bodice and it's made of leather. I'm sure to like protect her.

1:42:11 She's got this interesting little headpiece that's got like this gold face guard on it. She still has her Katana, she has a horse and when we see her she's riding the horse, she kills a walker. And then it looks like she is about to ride into a huge ass heard and I was like Look, he's falling out but I need to get a better look at the background because somebody was saying, they think that it looks like a city behind her. Like, there may have been people or something burning. I'm like, no. I think those were Cloud clouds like the Shadows from the clouds. But I have to go back and looking like, really, really picking apart.

1:43:00 Oh yeah, we have Michelle back. We have Rick back and like Casey said, the fear der went walking bananas. Went bananas be a nan. A.s. bananas. Who. And then we got to watch her on the walking on the Talking Dead with a lot of the other stars. A lot of the other cast members Chandler, Riggs was there and turns out Chandler was in the finale episode.

1:43:41 Yep. He was, he said that he came to sit on the last day just because he wanted to be there for the last day and he said, Denise, I think did he say Denise? I think he said to me saw him and she gave him Seth's hat. It was like, get out there, get out there, so he was one of the background extras back there. Working in the gardens, right behind Maggie and Herschel. And Alexander, I was like, oh, there's sweet him came home for the end, which was really sweet. Because I mean, if we couldn't have call at the end, which sucks because we should have had until the end of the series at least he was a part of it. You know.

1:44:29 I thought that was really sweet that they even allowed him to do that. So yeah. It's over. I'm so sad. I'm so sad. Um let's see, I'm trying to think because I know this probably some stuff we forgot to talk about. I was just mostly thinking about the important stuff, which I think we actually hit everything. Yeah, we did. Wow. Okay. I thought it was going to take a lot longer to talk about this episode. Okay, I can't wait for the spin-off. I'm be there for you Center like this ever. I'm slicing faithfully and if they put put it on your calendar.

1:45:25 Michelle, if they have a talking dead, we're going to look at me. I'm all. I'm trying to find Carl. Oh, it's very much a blink and you'll miss it. So someone actually screenshot like they, I'm gonna have to make that. Okay. And you know, expanded it and then yeah. So I'll send it to you so you can see okay? But yeah, Michelle be prepared to go to California or New York or wherever the hell, they have this thing we're gone. Okay, okay, correct. And, and maybe maybe we'll see some of these friends and the Fear, The Walking Dead, the new season. Maybe a couple people, so Mike Walking Dead, But I mean, because the, the because I will cross over but see the problem with fear, The Walking Dead is timeline-wise. I believe they are about three years behind where the current show is.

1:46:30 Oh, okay. I thought they'd have caught the but see, we don't have the time. That's true and there is a possibility. They may have a time Jump based on one of the photos that's been released somebody who was a baby in the last season appears to be about twelve now. So what the hell yeah. Oh, okay. Probably the keep watching the see this time Jump here. Okay. All right. Yep. But it'll also be interesting. Considering what happened at the end of last season and fear, as far as Morgan goes. So I have to wait for y'all to catch up. Okay, yeah, yeah.

1:47:21 Highlights from the LA trip. So, we got to be part of the group of the first ton, you know, kind of sort of hundred people who were allowed near the red carpet so that we can see the stars arrived. So, we got to see, like, Norman Reedus and Michael Rooker arrived. We saw caelian person. We saw Yvette, Nicole Brown, she came over and talked to us for a little bit. Like I said, I said, Melissa McBride, she actually skipped the read the actual red carpet and came over to talk to the fans. And when folks started doing selfies, I'm telling you, man, Casey, we were sitting at the top they had like some expandable bleachers.

1:48:10 Like you find that the high school football games, I ran down those things so fast. I was like, please don't let me bust my ass. But if she's taking selfies with people, I need a selfie with Melissa. I've never had an opportunity to Meet her before at a con. Because when she goes to conventions, like fan, Democrat, whatever, she's one of the VIP. So you have to pay a lot of money to even be able to meet her. And because they always overbook those people, you never really get to spend time with them. Like, it's literally, hey, how you doing there? Signing autographs. You take a picture, then you got to go and I was like, I just, I can't do that. So the fact that we got to meet her and she was she was very lovely to the fans.

1:48:53 Very nice talking to everybody really everybody that we got a chance to meet there was amazing, we got to meet Walker win. Who was one of the canva finalists for the contest that they have? And she is the art. She's the person who she's the artist, who did these posters behind me. So, we got to meet Her in person, finally, and Vincent the person who actually got us link so that we could get our tickets and reservations and go, we got to meet him and, you know, we just it was a fun time. Even just standing in line talking to people, Casey is Wells people.

1:49:36 She does not mean to strangers. She was talking to everybody, everybody, everybody, anybody who walked around with a bad, she was like, hey, what you doing, what you supposed to be doing I mean she was talking to me, I swear that's not be right, because when they had them, Give me my bracelet because I'm the next one. Yeah, so she's like, hold on left came back with two breaks. Uh-huh. So am I mean it was it was a lot of fun, actually being able to watch Talking Dead and this was something Casey.

1:50:16 It said in La when you talk about manifesting stuff because when, when they started season 11 or not even started season 11 at the end of season 10, I had said to case, See, I said that, you know, they're probably going to do something big for talking dead for the finale. I want to be in La for it. I was like, I don't know how I'm gonna make this happen, but I really want to go and I really thought it was going to be one of those situations where you go online, and you request the tickets like you would for a regular Talking Dead show. So I was like, yeah, those tickets go so fast because they only allowed 20 people in the studio audience at this point because of covid. And I was like, nah, they're going to do. Do something big.

1:51:01 I don't know what they're going to do and I don't know where they're going to do it but it's got to be something like for the tent. I think for the start of the 10th season, they were at Madison Square Garden. I believe that was the one where they were at Madison Square Garden or one of the ones they were at Madison Square Garden. I don't remember. It might have been the hundredth episode but I was like they have to do something big like that in order to see it out the door. So, either way it goes, I'm going to find myself in La somewhere. And we were there. We were there. We didn't get murdered are in our hotel. We did not. She kept saying, oh my God, this looks like a murder Hotel. It was a cutesy little, I don't know what you want to call like a boutique hotel tight.

1:51:49 It was a motel. It was a motel, but okay, what was it in? It wasn't in but you guys, you know, it was decent for re-roofing. It was very It was very cheap for us and we parked our scooters, outside new, still out there with the next days we did. We took we took scooters around the city. It was fun. It was awesome. We had a good time. We'll have to know that no matter what city we go to. We need to find a scooter. It was awesome. But we even decided we were going to take the scooters to the airport that morning. We were 11 miles from the airport, we decide. Okay, we just don't we have time left on our scooters.

1:52:29 We're just going to At the scooters until we can't ride anymore and then we'll Uber from wherever. So, we finally get in the spillway, you know, little Spillway, you see in all the movies, we've seen it in the Fast and Furious movies, sending and stranger things, something similar to it. We get on the bike trail. We're not on the bike trail, 5 minutes and Casey scooter, die. Oh, I was so many and we are nowhere near the street. We are nowhere near the street. We're nowhere near anywhere, we can come up to the street. So, I try to, I try to turn my scooter off so I can walk with her. No, they don't allow you to turn your scooter off. There certain areas that are considered off limits and you can't leave a scooter there. So I had to ride for an additional two miles. To get to the street and get somewhere where I could leave my scooter.

1:53:25 So that was an interesting morning trying to get back to the airport, but overall again, we had a great time. We got in on Friday, we went to get something to eat and then we looked at the time, we were like, okay, it's 4:30 the Funko store closes at 6:00, let's just go look at the Funko store. And when I tell you Casey, and I were walking around at school that store like we were children, Picture picture, picture, picture, picture, picture picture, and then we made our own funko's and we made our own funko's. I'm jealous, and then, because we were on Hollywood Boulevard, we walked for two miles looking for Norman Reedus has Hollywood star. So let's say, we're looking at everybody else is like, oh no, we're looking for Norman's, especially, because both of our phones were about to die.

1:54:16 I was just fun to say, If you were like we just need to get this one picture with good, but we had a great time. It was, you know, great being there with other fans. Like I said, if I could do a if I could do that kind of viewing with fans for big episodes like that all the time, I absolutely would because you can't beat that kind of energy. Like it was, it was an amazing vibe to be around and then of course, Sing Talking Dead on stage, sing, you know, Scott gimple. Greg, nicotero, Angela, Kane. I think who was on this side norm and Melissa Lauren and Jeffrey Dean Morgan. And then over here, you have like, Ross Marquand you have khary.

1:55:05 Payton, Michael Cutlass, was their Christmas. Christian Serratos was there Sarah Wayne Callies Lori from season 1 was there with the kids with Judith and Carl, and it was just it was a lot but it was so much fun. And we were like, man. Michelle should be here. We were. She should have been there. She should have. Yes, I did. Do my own little solo watching party. Well, at least you don't have to tell nobody to hush will Rick start? No I did.

1:55:45 It was just me, you know, screaming and talking right? Okay, cuz I was like, what's about to happen? We've got to get another thing was, of course, because we were there in the theater, we couldn't possibly like, I couldn't do what I usually do. Like, when big moments happened, I usually pause, I have to take it in. I couldn't do any of that. So, I had to just go with the flow and feel everything. When I like I said, I was a mess by the end of that episode, a pure pure mess. And then, Then when they did the, in memoriam on Talking Dead for Rosita, I was like, damn it. I just stopped crying.

1:56:27 Yeah, why are you doing this to me? And that was made at the end of the episode. I was mad. I had to process because I really didn't that was hard with her die. We named everyone else. I did not have her on my list and then I was like, they left her cocoa. I was devastated. Yeah, yeah. Are just got she felt like they needed to break our hearts one more time. Okay.

1:57:10 I get it whatever. If that's well it they did. That's selfish. Yeah, it is so they couldn't. It could have been Aaron and we could have been all right? No, absolutely not. How okay, how about somebody that doesn't have kids to Leave Behind these kids have been through enough? Well if I had to pick one it's going to be Aaron know my rose either. No no he's being selfish at this point, right? She was eventually, you know, she did say that, you know, being an actor is psychological and she felt like, you know, not seeing this character. Again she needed to have closure. So closure, which I understand, but I'm like, I really would have loved to see Rosita and Michonne reunite. And someone pointed it out on Twitter and said, do y'all realize that the last conversation Michonne had with Judith?

1:58:16 She asked about Rosita and Coco. On, it's called David enough. Well, first of all, they don't have to spin a whole week by the fireplace. Catch her up and everything. She's digging her Rick, Rick rule. I mean, the people he knew is gone be like, don't even ask who's gone or not. You just look around the room. Dave hear The Whispers And we had to do with common. Well, those are gonna be the chick named Pamela.

1:58:58 Say, Commonwealth will probably not be so far-fetched with him because he's coming from the CRM. So the Cardinals is probably he's looking at that like yeah. You know what? That's a bullshit that's probably and I don't even think he would think that was far out with The Whispers. Now you know what, he would probably think. It was a little strange. When he was like, yeah, his variant Walker's. Now that you got to deal with. No, that's strange. Because remember, he was the one in the very first episode when Morgan's wife came up on the porch and was, oh yeah and the people and she looked down at the door.

1:59:38 She started twisting the doorknob. It was Rick Steiner that did this number here, I was looking down like what the fuck is she doing? Very at Walkers are not as I keep telling folks variant, Walkers are not, that's not the first time we've seen them. Now we have it. Plus he was also in the department store where they were trying to escape in the Walkers were beating on it with the rock, right? Very well Chris that I know that I no stranger to me but climbing climbing up some walls. He may be like okay no because when him and Glenn walks on response time with the guts and they climbed over the fence, there was some Walkers climbing over the fence. I'm in there. When they wouldn't little girl he or the little girl he's trying to do truck. Okay?

2:00:22 Or the little girl he shot who was still carrying her teddy bear? No she did she wasn't carrying it. She was walking and she bent down to pick up the teddy bear and careful again. We carry her teddy bear, they are not new. So for him, none of that would be, he's like all this shit is strange, I'm all right. But oh, okay.

2:01:21 So we have this city which I believe is supposed to come out like, sometime around April, we have Daryl Dixon, which is currently filming right now and then the Rick and Michonne series is supposed to start in January, awesome sauce. Snakes my those and at all of them are supposed to release in 2023. Okay, so I'm thinking the magazine Negan spin-off that's going to be in the spring. I'm thinking Darrell will probably be summer, and then Rick and Michonne will probably be fall.

2:02:06 Okay, we had go somewhere to see Rick and Michonne First Step, but I'm hoping that Nick enormous is going to start is going to do viewing parties for the spin-offs. That would be nice to see why they would. Yeah. They're definitely going to do it for Daryl Dixon. Yeah, of course. I mean it's kind of his place. So yeah. You know, we don't need to do. We'll pick a weekend and everybody to take the or when y'all have a Monday off and go to the one in Chattanooga. Okay, and we still can go to the one down here. It may not be a viewing party but I mean at least without the viewing party will have access to the full menu. Yeah.

2:02:48 And get them Philly fries, that's all I'm order. Series finale. I'm going to say that every time I have to say it out loud, I'm going to say it was a wonderful 12 years and I'm glad it ended the way it ended with my boo.

2:03:29 So that means I get a little more of my boo. But I've enjoyed all the deaths. All the lives of the celebrations. All the characters we met on the characters we lost. It was love. It was a good ride. It was a good ride. I'm just going to Great note, even after breaking our hearts and ripping it out, and stomping on it and all that stuff. Yeah, yeah. Took us to the streets. Just made us feel it. Like Okay, so I guess that is it for a Walking Dead coverage until Fear The Walking Dead returns. I believe that is March, maybe I have to go back and look, but I know.

2:04:25 Fear is coming back and then we have dead City coming and that's within the next few months. So at least we'll I don't know, we have something to look forward to Michelle is catching up on Fear. I think, Casey, are you done catching up on Fear? No member, I can't is not on Hulu season 7 isn't on Hulu. That's right. So I gotta catch em as they come on anything that won't AMC plus which I'm about to cancel. So we gonna have to figure out some kind of way to get them caught up, on Fear, The Walking Dead so that we can cover that as well, because I think it's awesome. Ludo TV is on time. Well, I'm watching it on. Of Hulu.

2:05:05 You know. But it stops it suits and Seth it does. Okay. Yeah. What's the next season though? I mean you stop this season six. It's okay because I'm on season 3. I'm towards the end. Okay. Yeah. But I have not been able to catch the last half, so I'm sure as we get closer, they will have some type of marathon, I'm sure.

2:05:51 And I'll be able to catch the last, or at least be able to record them to where I can watch someone out when I can write. Right. So so yeah, that's that's going to be it for a Walking Dead coverage for now, and we'll see you with Walking Dead and 2023. But for now, that's it for our show, you can find us online at www.haddadhyundai.com, we are on social media on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter at Phantom hybrid. We have a YouTube channel where you can watch our videos. We have a Discord Channel, where you can chat with us and you can listen to us on all major podcasts treatment plant. Thanks for listening. We hope you join the conversation next time.