The Wheel of Time S1E1 - Fandom Hybrid Podcast #206

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What's up hybris?
Welcome back to another episode

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of The Phantom hybrid podcast.
This is hanako and I am here

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with Anthony Lori and Mike and
we are discussing a new show.

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We are discussing the Amazon
Prime series Wheel of Time which

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is based on the bestselling
novels by Robert Jordan.

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And I'm going to admit, I don't
know much about this series.

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I have been my old Mentor has
been trying to push me to read

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them for years and I just never
got around to it.

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And when I heard that the show
was coming out, I literally

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stayed away from interviews,
everything talking about it

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because I kind of wanted to
experience it as a fresh, you

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know, fan, you know, learning
about it for the first time.

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But this is as Lori likes to say
this is Anthony's ish.

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So we don't let Anthony tell us
a little bit about will of time

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and what we can expect from
this.

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Ariza what we might can expect
from this series.

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So Anthony tell us about The
Wheel of Time, okay?

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This is my ear.
So let me tell you everything

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you need to know this but I'm
not gonna do that.

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He's pulling a lorry know if we
mean that as a compliment Lord,

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we really do.
Oh, I know, I do, I do, I do

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first.
I will say that I don't know as

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much about this series as Lori
knows about them.

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So this is starting to me but
who really does.

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So I mean like yeah that's a
tall order.

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I started re I really and I have
no children.

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That's my excuse.
I read these books years ago, I

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kind of stumbled across out of
the world just looking for

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something to read and I started
as an audiobook.

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So I listen to it first before I
see, read the series and it's

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brilliant.
I think is one of the finest

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series works.
You never read Robert.

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Jordan didn't actually finish
it.

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I think it was intended to be 12
books or 13.

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Books.
Brandon Sanderson came in and

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used his notes to write the last
book which he turned into three

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books.
Oh, okay.

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So the ending took three books,
where Robert Jordan only playing

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the doing one, which I'm not a
big Brandon Sanderson fan but he

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did a pretty good job.
So the will of time we'll talk

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about it but basically the wheel
turns and people die, the souls

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go back.
Into will and it gets spun back

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out in this.
Why?

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When you read the first
paragraph and chapter one, the

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will of time.
Turns and AIDS is coming past

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leaving the memories that become
legend, legend, Phase, 2 myth.

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And even myth is long forgotten
when the age that gave it birth

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comes again in one age, called
the 30s by some and AIDS yet to

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come and AIDS.
Long passed away.

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Wind rose, my mountain of Miss,
the wind was not the beginning.

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There are neither Beginnings nor
endings to the Turning of The

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Wheel of Time, but it was a
beginning.

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So the idea is that things
happen over and over and over

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again.
And this is something I think

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we've talked about in other
words before, that things tend

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to repeat over and over again.
And this is so true for the

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wheel.
So the Creator God, created the

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wheel and the wheel is wet,
turns out souls, and the will

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continues.
So we are in the third age but

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it's an age that has been in the
age that hasn't come yet because

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the cycle continues, so it's
basically a cycle.

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Okay, so a lot of this stuff has
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reincarnation.
You're going to hear about the

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dragon reborn.
So the dragon reborn was a guy

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from the first age who died and
there is Faith in his return.

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And this 3,000 years later since
he was alive, okay?

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And now he has been reborn
either as a male or female,

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okay?
And the whole point in the

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beginning of the series, is
everyone's trying to find them.

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And then there's some men, they
claim to be the dragon reborn.

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We saw that in the very few
first few episodes of the

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series.
First, we episodes, right?

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One of the things that really
drew me to this.

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Is it created my interest in
Magic systems and people may

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have listen to podcast.
May have heard me talk about

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magic systems before.
They have a very interesting

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magic system, there's the true
source and then there's the one

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power.
So the true source is a

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different source of Magic, the
one power can be wielded by men

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and women.
But they're not the same, the

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side bean inside our and we'll
hear about that later.

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Apparently they're not going to
talk about that until we get

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further into the series.
So in the beginning Moraine is

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going to talk about when the
site and basically the devil is

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trying to break the wheel
somehow, he was able to

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influence the world.
There was an argument between

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the I said, I the men and women,
how they should take care of it.

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The Dragon of the time he wanted
to close.

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He wanted to seal sight and
away.

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When he took all the men to go
do it.

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Shiet and fought back.
They sealed it successfully.

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However, site and was able to
paint the men, had the men side

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of the one power.
Okay?

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So now men go insane when they
start channeling and we call it

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Talent back when we were
watching discovery of witches

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and you saw how they when she
was doing the magic.

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And you see the threads and the
The waving the flag with the

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weaving, this is very similar to
what you see in the will of

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time.
And I'm pretty sure that's where

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she got that idea from.
Okay, was the weaving of the air

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and spirit and fire and water
and Earth all that stuff.

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Okay?
So let me ask a question.

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So the I said, I from what I
gathered from the show, the I

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said I are all women but you're
saying that men were Either I

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said, I as well.
Is that something that they

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change for the show?
No.

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Oh okay.
Oh, that's something.

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Okay, well you did say that
anything.

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He said this before we started
recording.

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He said anything that might end
up being spoilery for later on,

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he was not going to answer any
questions.

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It's not really a spoiler.
All I said, I used to be men and

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women and even though I said
that symbol, which looks like me

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and yang because it was the
combination of the male and

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female side of the one power.
Okay, when the men went to go

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seal site and away he the dark
one, he painted The Mill Side so

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all the men went crazy.
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So there were effectively no
more ads to die male.

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I see that.
So now, all a That are female

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because an email they can
Channel goes crazy.

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Okay.
Isn't there like a prequel that

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kind of goes into all that for
before the first book?

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Because it's spring something
and you spring.

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Yeah, yeah.
Now here's my question and I and

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because I I'm currently on book
to I'm doing audio books, should

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I go back and listen to the
prequel?

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Now if it's not necessary.
Okay?

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Okay.
It was something that came out

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later but it's not necessary.
It's an interesting read as good

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read it gives you some good
background information, more

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information about some of your
main characters, but it's not

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necessary.
Okay.

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I'm trying to think if I have
any more questions.

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All done, sir.
Well done before you started

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into the actual shelf.
Let's see.

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No, I think all my questions.
You can be asked as we discussed

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the show, sold the episode
starts with our introduction to

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Moraine.
We see her getting dressed and

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she starts telling this story.
She says the world is broken

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many.
Many years ago, men who were

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born with great power.
Believe they could cage Darkness

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itself the arrogance, when they
fail the Seas boiled and I'm

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watching it in background,
mountains were swallowed up

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cities burned and the women of
the, I said I were left to pick

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up the pieces and this Why I
asked the question about women

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and the women in the men because
from the get-go of the show,

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they make it seem like the women
are the only Aisa die and they

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make it seem like when men try
to touch the one power.

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When they try to use the one
power.

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Like you said they go mad but
they make it seem like the men

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are not supposed to have the 1
power at all and in a way it

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reminded me of Doom, which we
just recently A review because

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and doun you know you have the
been a gesture at who are these

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women witches and they're very
powerful and you know we have

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Paul who has some of their
powers and technically speaking

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he's not supposed to because
he's male he's not supposed to

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be able to access that power.
So it kind of reminded me about

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that and then I thought about
what Laura said about, you know,

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doing kind of being the the
forefather of a lot of fantasy

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as far as those types of You
know, those types of plots is

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story arcs and you know, that
sort of Storytelling.

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So that reminded me of that in
this.

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And then also, as we see
throughout the first episode, we

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see that the women are really
really powerful, the ones who

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can wield the one power, and
then you do see men who may have

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tried to use the one power, and
like you said they've gone mad

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or they're close.
To it.

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Or it looks like the I said, I
are there tracking them down

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because they're looking for this
person who is supposed to be the

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dragon reborn, and he's supposed
to be bad, like they say, he

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broke the world the first time
he was here, and with him being

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reborn, it can go either way
depending on the person that

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he's inhabiting.
Like he can either break the

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world again or he can actually
fix it okay again.

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Well well then the dragon lived
Years ago so prison they haven't

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been any mail I survive for
three thousand years okay so all

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the ads of that as the world
knows it I'll ask that our women

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and it's always been like that
even though that's not the case.

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Okay, um, When the breaking
happened, a lot of a lot of

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things kind of went wrong and
when they realized that, the men

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were channeling, like Marine
said, the women had to pick up

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the pieces, they started hunting
down all the mill.

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I said, I, they could find and
all the mill Chandler's and try

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to take care of them.
Okay?

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And it's not something you can
just make go away.

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So people are going to be born
who can channel, so for the last

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3,000 years, any male who could
Channel, It has been dealt with

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by the.
I see that.

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And they call that gentling,
right?

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Yeah, even gentling or stealing,
okay?

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Like still, they've been gentle
door, skilled.

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That's basically them taking
that power away from them

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because even more from the once
the power.

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Okay.
Okay, no no.

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Here's a quick quick question.
The perceived Madness that the

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men seem to have is that mainly
because they are untrained in

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the the one cow.
It's not a perceived Madness, an

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actual madness.
Okay, so actually see you before

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seen when the guy with the
middle Chandler was running from

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the read Isaiah he the red
sister.

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He thought he was talking to
someone and she's like who you?

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Yeah.
Right there's no one there.

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Okay, search for the men.
Yes.

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The one power for men has been
corrupted by the dark old of

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dragon Reborn is basically the
one that can wield.

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The one time I'm just working
through this can wield the one

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power and not go.
Batshit crazy.

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For the purposes of this
discussion, I will say that any

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male they can Channel.
Currently is going to go, okay?

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All right, hey, get your get
your Obi-Wan Kenobi Lon.

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There's no way, there's no way
around it right now.

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So, so yeah, any the dragon,
whether it be male or female

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because remember, they don't
know who is going to be on their

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way, is whether it be male or
female, if it's a male, he's

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gonna go mad, okay, that that is
going to happen that because

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that's just how it was if it's a
female.

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Bill sees not gonna go man
because the female side of the

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one power is pure.
Okay?

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So we have another fantasy
series where women are powerful,

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who runs the word?
I told her to go, I'll see how

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it goes gonna love this series
because it's all about the human

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have.
Now you know I was like I was

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looking at it.
I was like, okay I can get down

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with this you know, literally
the women are in charge.

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And the men go crazy when they
try to use it.

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Yes, let's get into it.
I mean, it's actually pretty

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refreshing to see us like you
going to the tavern two women

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are the one carousing and
getting drunk and like and like

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you know being real Rowdy and
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I'm like, that's weird but
that's actually kind of cool.

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I'm like okay I'm with this
that's pretty that's pretty dumb

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now.
Now there are some things just

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like, you know, what's the other
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Which one Shit.
What we cares.

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How is shadowing bone?
On bone.

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Setting up there are going to be
some things that you as a woman

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is going to Black, really?
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And if they do it, if they do it
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if not people may have issues
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literal, like, like lines that
you could draw between a lot of

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stuff that we've already
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Definitely a discovery which is
which is lines.

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You can draw their definite
Shadow and Bone lines.

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You can draw their even lines to
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here.
And it's like a game of that I

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have to Game of Thrones cursed.
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Like a ton just like Dad.
Remember that, you know, this is

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just like everything else in
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lore and branched out so it's
like everything has certain

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things that are similar but I
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like almost you can almost hand
pick like the characters and

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like when the part they're
playing and like you know

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compare and contrast and pick.
Oh he's acting like such.

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He's acting like such.
So it's kind of cool like this

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because like on ago I'm fresh to
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it before it came out and I was
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like most of us like fantasy is

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basically like once you figure
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is, is basically the same as
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basically figure out who is who
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and who's going to be what, as
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So it's like, you know, as we go
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of the Rings in this, because
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straight from Lord of the Rings.
George r.r., Martin was inspired

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by this as well, because Game of
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The Wheel of Time because
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houses which you'll hear about
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game of house gonna say.
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wheel turning and the will
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this is like I was watching this
and I heard Daenerys Targaryen

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because that was one of the
things that she always talked

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about was breaking.
The will you know trying to

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break the quote-unquote curse of
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And doing better and being
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Which okay, we're not going to
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out of it, too.
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everything goes back to, Lord of
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you're gonna get that in this
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because, well, two things really
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Is that George r.r.
Martin because I was reading up

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a little Before and I understand
how Game of Thrones came out of

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this, but he had already started
writing wild cards.

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He was a good, two, three books
in before he switched over, and

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did Game of Thrones, which I
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while the cars was supposed to
be his go-to series, the other

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thing is that I'm watching this
and I love Lord of the Rings and

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I love anything fancy wise but
this really, really remind me of

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dragonlance the book series.
And I'm like, huh, this is

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basically a A real-life
dragonlance, come to life, you

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know, I mean, I'm waiting for
Tesla Health perfect to show up.

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I mean, it is that interesting
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was kind of cool because it is,
it's that every fancy Trope.

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And it's got every fantasy.
It's like, when I was listening

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to the one on audiobook, I
literally started a little note

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on my notepad while I was
working.

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Let's get going.
Okay, elf click this click,

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click click, you know as as the
book went on I was taking off

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and I'm like This is awesome.
Who's got everything that you

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can take out everything about
might you have?

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Yeah, we're serious.
Yeah, Prince said well, you

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haven't had the princes yet.
All, they're all coming.

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They're all there and upset and
Barbarian right now.

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You have them all.
Yeah, I mean, even some of the

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names, one of the main
characters sent her name is Gwen

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and it sounds like a grain to
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And I was like, oh okay, here's
some, here's some more.

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It's like we know this with
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See in some way, they tight,
they tie into each other, you

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know, they borrow from here or
they kind of get their

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inspiration.
So it's it's fun to see and kind

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of pick those things out, you
know.

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But like I said there was a lot
of ear.

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Blaine is Guinevere.
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Yeah.
As far as the yeah Randall Thor

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author, Sarah?
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So there are so the other thing
that I want to talk about before

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we get into the actual episode.
So from What I understand and

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just a little bit of the things
that I heard, you know, going to

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DragonCon I believe they they
had they used to actually have a

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Wheel of Time Track at DragonCon
gentleness and they kind of face

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it out you know or merged in
combine them all into be on the

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same track.
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So one of the things that I've
heard about the show that is

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very different that had people
talking is the fact that this

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cast is huge Hugely hugely
diverse and of course not having

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read the books.
I wouldn't know that but just

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watching the show and seeing
like it's a little Rainbow on my

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screen and I love it because
you've got people of all types

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there and I really feel like
this is one of those shows that

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really truly reflects the world
as it is.

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And I mean, I'm not talking
about you have your token black

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here in your token black,
they're like it really is a Mix

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racially diverse cast, you've
got Asians in here.

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You've got people of color in
here, it's really diverse ever

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make sense of it actress.
That plays dance music plays

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egwene.
I think she's aborigine.

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Mmm.
If I'm not.

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Okay, I could be wrong on that.
But you're right I think is

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fantastic because we read the
book races have anything to do

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with it.
But it is clear that all the

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characters are white.
Even when you get Two characters

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that could be argued later.
There are characters of color.

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There's they still come off as
being white.

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So, just like we talked about
with Channel and on Saturday a

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bone, it doesn't hurt to make it
a diverse can write and it's sad

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that there are people who are
fans of the book, who look at

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this and it's like, what they
don't look like, I how I

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imagined.
Well, of course they do, right?

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Look like which we met?
Yeah.

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But the Thanks.
So is, you know, where's with

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Shadow and Bone?
We do see a little bit of that

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racist element because, you
know, Elena's character is

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discriminated against because of
what she looks like.

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You don't really see that in the
show, at least, I think, right

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now we're five episodes in and
I've watched all five episodes.

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You don't see any hint of any
kind of racial anything in this

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show, nothing.
Not even, just the racial.

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There's also So you have LGBT
representation in the show as

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well and it's so refreshing to
watch these people exist in a

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world where none of those things
matter.

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Like, there's nothing really
pointing out or making a big

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deal of it.
Like they talked about the fact

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that these two guys, you know,
we'll talk about it later but

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you know the waters are bonded
to their aissa die.

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And from what I gather with the
show that means bonded in any

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way, and every way if possible,
so that means that they may have

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a familial Bond, or they can
have a sexual Bond and it's not

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anything that's necessarily
frowned upon, right?

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Look, that weirdly, it's it just
kind of exists.

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And even with the two waters,
They both serve the same, I said

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I but it's clear.
It's clear that those two guys

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are together that they are
lovers or I don't know if they

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do like marriage in the
traditional sense.

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In this show, I don't think
we've really seen that that much

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here, except for maybe parent,
but with the I said, I, you

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know, they have their Waters and
the bond with the I said, I in

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the waters is so close that they
can feel what the other person

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is going through, which I Is
really, really interesting.

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But again, you have these two
men who are clearly together,

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you know, that I don't know if
it's in this episode.

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I think is in a couple of
episodes later, but you kind of

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see them bonding over fire and
they're clearly together.

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You know, one sitting the other
ones sitting on the ground in

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between his legs and somebody's
playing with somebody's hair and

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they're just having a
conversation is very natural.

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It's not like anything that's
hyper focused on is not

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something that's mentioned
there's no mention of yeah.

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Yeah.
Well, you know we're different

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and it's nothing, it's just like
so natural and then when they're

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I said, I is like, you know.
Hey guys, they get up and do I,

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okay, we got to go to work and
and nine a vast.

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The question she was like do all
three of them and the other

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people, they just looking like,
maybe and blank.

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It was just you know and like I
said, I know we're getting ahead

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with that one.
I just wanted to kind of bring

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that up because it's so
refreshing.

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Chance to see the diversity and
the inclusion.

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And it not be made a big deal
of.

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It's like a natural part of this
story and I really love it

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because I feel like that's the
way it should be.

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Like, of course, we're talking
about it because in our world,

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equality is something we are
still fighting for.

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And even the fact that this show
went with a diverse cast, and

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people are complaining about it
because that's not how they

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imagine them.
It is a little bit, you know, a

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part of the reason why I'm
pointing this out in the first

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place is just like in the show,
is just whatever and let's see

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what happens though.
When you take race out of the

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equation, all the other things
become the Discrimination like

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being from the two rivers you
treated differently because you

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from the two rivers.
That's true.

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I've died or prosecuted against
because rise to die.

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Will we meet the Tinkers?
They're also being persecuted

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against because they're
tinker's.

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So you basically understand that
a lot of the Discrimination

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doesn't necessarily have to be
about race within the show.

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It's yes.
But you're right though, it's

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refreshing to be able to watch
this and race, not be the

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factor.
Like, right, you said, maybe the

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tropics their races, you know.
No, we can kill them all day

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long, but rowlocks.
So yeah, we'll get we'll get to

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the child's but but one of the
things I love is like the main

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characters of the show.
So the show starts out with

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Moraine who is one of the I said
I she is actually looking for a

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certain person who maybe the
dragon reborn and she comes to

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this town and it turns out that
there are According to her for

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people who fit that description,
they're all born around the time

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that the dragon reborn.
Well, the dragon should have

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been reborn, which was about 20
between 20 and 24 years ago.

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So you have these characters,
you have ran out Thor.

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You have egwene, you have
parent, and you have Matt, and

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they are all around the same
age.

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They are all very close.
Their best friends is very

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evident from the beginning of
the show, but You know, egwene

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and parents are not your
standard White characters.

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You know, they are people of
color egwene and ran have this

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long going relationship like
they've been apparently in love

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with each other since they were
children.

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And you know they happen to be
singled out by Moraine when all

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of this comes to a head because
of the fact that they may be the

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dragon reborn.
So that was interesting as well.

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And then you have you have land.
I think his name is land that

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meringues water and he's Asian.
Yeah.

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So again it's like you have all
of these.

448
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:26,600
You have all of these diverse
characters who are in positions

449
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:30,700
of importance and power and it's
very refreshing to see

450
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:35,100
especially in a fantasy show
because a lot of times our

451
00:28:35,100 --> 00:28:39,100
characters are kind Just there's
the sidekicks or they're,

452
00:28:39,100 --> 00:28:41,900
they're kind of, in the
background, you know?

453
00:28:42,300 --> 00:28:45,800
But let's talk about these
characters.

454
00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:52,400
So I mentioned the for you have
R and you have egwene, you have

455
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:57,800
parent and Matt question about
parents character.

456
00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:02,600
So I've, uh, I've heard that in
the books, parents character was

457
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:06,400
not married, is that true true?
He was not mad, okay?

458
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,100
Okay.
So it was kind of weird because

459
00:29:09,100 --> 00:29:14,400
one of the complaints that I
heard and knowing or finding out

460
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:17,800
later that he wasn't married in
the books, it kind of made that

461
00:29:17,900 --> 00:29:20,000
that thought kind of Wonder for
me as well.

462
00:29:20,300 --> 00:29:23,200
So they made him married in the
show and what happens during the

463
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:27,400
course of the show is as Moran
comes to this town and she's

464
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:31,500
trying to figure out who the
dragon reborn is, there is an

465
00:29:31,500 --> 00:29:34,900
attack by this group called The
trollops.

466
00:29:34,900 --> 00:29:41,800
And they are like, I They're
like the Orcs of this show, you

467
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:45,800
know, they're like these that is
really ugly race of people and

468
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:48,100
basically what they do is they
come in and they slaughtered the

469
00:29:48,100 --> 00:29:50,600
town and we find out that
they're slaughtering the town

470
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:54,500
because they are also looking
for the person who maybe the

471
00:29:54,500 --> 00:29:58,400
dragon reborn.
Now, I'm not exactly sure what

472
00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:00,800
the deal is with that.
I know that there is another

473
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:03,800
figure, that kind of sort of
looks like Voldemort in this

474
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:07,200
show, that controls the trial
against emergency.

475
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:10,200
Uh, yeah.
That's what who I'm merger, but

476
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:13,200
you can also call a fade.
Okay?

477
00:30:13,300 --> 00:30:14,900
Oh, okay.
So he's a fake.

478
00:30:14,900 --> 00:30:16,600
Okay, he's a fake.
Okay.

479
00:30:16,900 --> 00:30:20,200
So basically, so you can be
named he's not someone who

480
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:22,400
should not be right?
You can actually name him.

481
00:30:22,700 --> 00:30:24,800
Yes.
Oh, so again, with the

482
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:29,100
comparisons this person, he
looks like Voldemort and the

483
00:30:29,100 --> 00:30:33,200
Fades from what I saw in episode
4.

484
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:36,300
I believe it was they kind of
look like Dementors to me.

485
00:30:36,300 --> 00:30:38,500
Hmm.
So Okay, there you go.

486
00:30:38,500 --> 00:30:41,000
Did they feel?
They're the field generals.

487
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:46,300
They control the tropics.
Okay, so basically what happens

488
00:30:46,300 --> 00:30:49,700
is the child looks come to, the
they come to the town and they

489
00:30:49,700 --> 00:30:52,800
just start slaughtering
everybody.

490
00:30:53,300 --> 00:30:58,300
And during this fight parent and
his wife who, you know, parent

491
00:30:58,300 --> 00:31:00,500
is Young.
He has this young wife.

492
00:31:00,500 --> 00:31:04,200
They look very much in love.
They are blacksmiths in the town

493
00:31:04,900 --> 00:31:07,900
so they create the weapons.
So when they're Attacked by the

494
00:31:07,900 --> 00:31:10,800
chocolates.
They run to their shop, they

495
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:13,200
pick up weapons and they start
fighting the trolleys.

496
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:16,100
And I mean, they are holding
their own against these

497
00:31:16,100 --> 00:31:20,300
trolleys, which is impressive
because these child looks are

498
00:31:20,300 --> 00:31:22,500
very strong.
They're very powerful.

499
00:31:22,900 --> 00:31:25,700
And like I said, they start
cutting people down in the town,

500
00:31:25,700 --> 00:31:30,700
like, with the quickness.
So what happens is they're both

501
00:31:30,900 --> 00:31:34,900
fighting these trolleys parent
is on one side, and I think his

502
00:31:34,900 --> 00:31:38,500
wife's name was Layla was on.
The other side and they're both

503
00:31:38,500 --> 00:31:42,500
fighting these chocolates with
like, Spears and axes parent

504
00:31:42,500 --> 00:31:46,700
actually has this really huge
acts that he's using, so he cuts

505
00:31:46,700 --> 00:31:49,500
into one try.
Look and he hears something

506
00:31:49,500 --> 00:31:54,000
behind him and he swings
thinking, he's about to take out

507
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:58,600
another trollop.
And instead, he plants the axon

508
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:03,000
to the side of his wife.
And so he kills her by accident

509
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:06,500
and one of the things I heard,
you know, people complaining

510
00:32:06,500 --> 00:32:08,400
about online.
They were like why what was the

511
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:10,500
whole purpose in even giving him
a wife if they were just going

512
00:32:10,500 --> 00:32:12,300
to kill her off in the first
episode?

513
00:32:12,500 --> 00:32:15,200
And I was like, that doesn't
make sense.

514
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:18,900
Why would they do that?
Like from his story in the book

515
00:32:19,100 --> 00:32:22,300
and what you see on screen as
far as his journey, what we see

516
00:32:22,300 --> 00:32:26,700
so far did him having a wife or
what happened with the wife

517
00:32:26,700 --> 00:32:30,400
because I know what the wife he
has this sense of guilt and it

518
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:33,800
leads into a depression and then
like certain things a couple of

519
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:36,900
episodes later he feels like
whatever happens to him, she

520
00:32:36,900 --> 00:32:39,900
happy.
Because he deserves it, but does

521
00:32:39,900 --> 00:32:43,700
him having a wife in this show,
change anything about the

522
00:32:43,700 --> 00:32:47,200
trajectory of his character from
what it was in the books.

523
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:51,200
Hmm.
Okay, I can't really answer that

524
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:57,700
question, okay?
But I will say he has, I'm going

525
00:32:57,700 --> 00:32:59,500
to be doing some mental
gymnastics you.

526
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:07,900
So there you go.
Parent has a lot of internal

527
00:33:07,900 --> 00:33:10,800
dialogue.
Okay, it's character.

528
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:14,500
He's not Communicator.
Okay with other people.

529
00:33:15,500 --> 00:33:17,300
This actor does a really good
job with that.

530
00:33:17,300 --> 00:33:22,800
He didn't speak a lot.
A lot of parents motivations and

531
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:26,300
how he feels is all internal
okay.

532
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:30,700
So they can't just going to it
would be very hard to try to

533
00:33:30,700 --> 00:33:37,200
explain why he's such a
breathing depressed, you know.

534
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:41,200
Arc introspective character to
be that talking to nobody.

535
00:33:41,900 --> 00:33:47,600
So to say him up there way, they
give him this wife, a pregnant

536
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:51,200
wife, oh, sir.
Oh, that's right.

537
00:33:53,300 --> 00:34:00,000
And then right into the deep
depression, the dark breathing

538
00:34:00,300 --> 00:34:03,500
pairing that we all know and
love because that's basically

539
00:34:03,500 --> 00:34:07,700
how using a book this is now
people who don't watch Ouch, you

540
00:34:07,700 --> 00:34:10,400
don't know the books, we have
something to hang our hat on

541
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:14,699
about this explains everything
about him like why he's the way

542
00:34:14,699 --> 00:34:17,800
he is.
Okay, so for that one, big, big

543
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:21,800
thing that happens to on.
Yeah, wait a minute.

544
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:23,600
Laure are you?
You're going to you can actually

545
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:30,500
be Lori, you're not doing that.
You know, zakhmi quiet.

546
00:34:37,300 --> 00:34:40,300
Was so friggin heartbreaking.
Like like you say he did a good

547
00:34:40,300 --> 00:34:42,800
job of like emoting with his
face.

548
00:34:43,100 --> 00:34:47,100
Like when he saw he did it like
his face was just like, like,

549
00:34:47,300 --> 00:34:51,500
like oh my god what have I done?
It is like, when that happened,

550
00:34:51,500 --> 00:34:56,300
I was like, oh, like I didn't
even like we didn't even really

551
00:34:56,300 --> 00:34:59,400
know her character much.
And I'd know that her character

552
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:03,700
doesn't have a big part to play
in the story except for, I guess

553
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:08,800
how it motivates him but just
What I saw of these characters

554
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:11,300
in the first episode, you know,
you see these characters, you

555
00:35:11,300 --> 00:35:14,200
see, they're buying, you get to
learn a little bit more of their

556
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:16,500
personality.
Like, you know, that for

557
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:21,300
pairing, his wife was everything
to him and his friendships as

558
00:35:21,300 --> 00:35:25,400
well.
With Matt, you see that Matt has

559
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:30,100
these two parents who are their
trash parents.

560
00:35:30,100 --> 00:35:31,600
Okay.
They are like garbage.

561
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:35,400
Heap parents, like, Dad is a
womanizer openly flirting with

562
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:38,800
other women in the town while
Mom sitting there watching him

563
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:41,900
like literally he's doing this
in her face and she sitting

564
00:35:41,900 --> 00:35:44,900
there watching him and calling
him names and I'm just sitting

565
00:35:44,900 --> 00:35:50,100
here looking at them like so
obviously this is a small town.

566
00:35:50,100 --> 00:35:53,400
This is one of those towns where
everybody knows everybody, where

567
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:57,000
you all grew up with each other
and your grandparents probably

568
00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,000
also knew each other and grew up
with each other.

569
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:02,600
So, everybody knows that these
are his parents that they are

570
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:05,100
together that they are married
or bonded, or whatever.

571
00:36:05,100 --> 00:36:08,900
The case is, this dude.
Is openly flirting with a woman

572
00:36:08,900 --> 00:36:11,300
in the town in the middle of the
Town Square.

573
00:36:11,500 --> 00:36:15,200
While his wife is there and
she's so busy looking at him and

574
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:19,300
being pissed off.
They've left their younger two

575
00:36:19,300 --> 00:36:23,100
daughters at home just by
themselves and it becomes very

576
00:36:23,100 --> 00:36:28,000
clear in the show that these two
girls are Matt's whole world.

577
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:31,300
Like he loves his little sisters
and he takes care of them.

578
00:36:31,500 --> 00:36:36,500
So you get to see that you know,
there's this I guess it's like a

579
00:36:36,500 --> 00:36:39,900
little celebration that they do
in the town where or maybe a

580
00:36:39,908 --> 00:36:42,800
little time.
It's called real time, where is

581
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:46,700
not necessarily celebration, but
it's basically like a way to

582
00:36:46,700 --> 00:36:51,600
honor their dead.
And to well-built inews like

583
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:55,100
it's the celebration of the
beginning of Spring.

584
00:36:55,500 --> 00:36:58,600
Okay.
And is it the beginning of

585
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:01,500
Spring or in the spring?
I can't remember but part of

586
00:37:01,500 --> 00:37:07,400
that is sealing off prayers for
the person that you lost or love

587
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:14,800
to be spun back into the life.
Okay, okay, so I guess there's

588
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:18,100
this thing that they do is kind
of like they buy Lanterns and

589
00:37:18,100 --> 00:37:21,300
they release the lanterns or
they're like the lanterns and

590
00:37:21,300 --> 00:37:25,400
Matt really couldn't afford to
get any for sister.

591
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:29,600
So of course, he stills, from
one of the women in the town, he

592
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:33,800
steals a bracelet and sells it
to this guy so that he can buy

593
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:37,600
lanterns for his little sister,
his little sisters and that was

594
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:40,500
one of the things I was like,
okay, the way that he had to do

595
00:37:40,500 --> 00:37:42,700
that.
I'm frowning upon because you

596
00:37:42,700 --> 00:37:45,700
shouldn't be stealing but you
sell his book readers.

597
00:37:45,700 --> 00:37:48,200
Like they made me mad.
Thief.

598
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:51,700
He's a thing, but he has a heart
of gold, like he really loves

599
00:37:51,700 --> 00:37:55,700
his sisters and I like that
about his character with Rand

600
00:37:55,700 --> 00:38:00,600
and egwene like we said, we
noticed that they have been

601
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:05,000
pining over each other since
childhood, and it's obvious that

602
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:09,600
they are together in the show,
but the conflict with them comes

603
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:14,600
in the second meeting obviously
together.

604
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:20,300
Obviously, you think, During the
first part of the show, but this

605
00:38:20,300 --> 00:38:22,600
is the thing.
Be the age that everybody up

606
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:24,000
from the book.
Oh, okay.

607
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:27,800
Okay.
There was a sexual relationship

608
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:32,800
between R and okay.
Yeah, okay, they were, they were

609
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:35,200
teenagers, okay?
Okay.

610
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:39,500
But the thing with them is
egwene, we see her at the

611
00:38:39,500 --> 00:38:44,400
beginning and it looks like she
is being, she is being part of a

612
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:45,700
ritual.
It.

613
00:38:45,700 --> 00:38:47,300
And it almost looks like a
coming of age.

614
00:38:47,500 --> 00:38:49,400
Ritual.
But basically what's happening

615
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:56,700
is she is being tested is that
the proper that she's being

616
00:38:56,700 --> 00:39:03,000
tested to see if if she is, I
don't know, strong enough or can

617
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:06,300
be chosen to be nine.
Aves.

618
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:10,600
Apprentice and it's what is it
that they call her winter or

619
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:20,600
wisdom, a wisdom and They sort
of the, there's a couple of

620
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:24,700
things happening.
She's now old enough at 20, to

621
00:39:24,700 --> 00:39:30,100
join the winning circle, because
she's old enough to be married

622
00:39:30,100 --> 00:39:32,800
and and do all that good stuff.
Okay.

623
00:39:34,100 --> 00:39:38,000
Being a wisdom or Nannies,
Apprentice, the something

624
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:42,400
different like Steph something
in addition to being in the way.

625
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:44,400
Okay, Circle.
Okay.

626
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:47,600
And That's what we learn.
Ran gets pissed off about later

627
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:50,500
because she's like, I want to
become a wisdom.

628
00:39:50,900 --> 00:39:56,600
Well, she can't get married.
Yeah, I was going to say I don't

629
00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:58,300
think he was.
Okay.

630
00:39:58,300 --> 00:40:01,100
One of the things that impressed
me about the episode when they

631
00:40:01,100 --> 00:40:04,600
have the conversation because
she you know, 9A have asked her

632
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:08,600
to become her Prentice.
And you can see obviously that

633
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:11,600
that has some kind of like deep
impact on her.

634
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:15,000
We don't know what it is
immediately until she gets back

635
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:20,700
to the town after her after her
initiation or the ceremony

636
00:40:20,700 --> 00:40:21,800
ceremony.
Okay.

637
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:26,100
After her ceremony and she comes
back to the tavern and She

638
00:40:26,100 --> 00:40:30,500
starts working and she avoids
rant and it's very obvious that

639
00:40:30,500 --> 00:40:33,800
something is not right because
at first when I looked at it, I

640
00:40:33,808 --> 00:40:35,500
was like oh is this one of
those?

641
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:38,200
Oh he's pining for her.
And she's not paying attention.

642
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:41,900
Then you realize they actually
are in a relationship and she

643
00:40:41,900 --> 00:40:45,000
was avoiding him because I guess
of what she felt like, she

644
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:49,800
needed to tell them.
So they have a conversation

645
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:53,000
about her being asked to be 98
his apprentice.

646
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:57,700
And after this is of course, a
After they slept together and he

647
00:40:57,700 --> 00:41:01,900
kind of storms off.
And in the morning, he's out on

648
00:41:01,900 --> 00:41:05,700
this Mountainside and she goes
to him and they actually sit and

649
00:41:05,700 --> 00:41:09,300
have like a mature conversation,
which I was impressed with

650
00:41:09,300 --> 00:41:14,400
because these are young people.
And yes, when she first told

651
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:18,800
him, he was upset and kind of
stormed off, but it was never in

652
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:24,700
a it wasn't in the way that you
see, in a lot of young people,

653
00:41:24,700 --> 00:41:28,500
young adult relationships on TV,
nowadays, especially like,

654
00:41:28,500 --> 00:41:32,400
regular non-magical
relationships or whatever, like,

655
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:36,700
those relationships are always
very codependent, very, toxic,

656
00:41:36,700 --> 00:41:45,400
very It's in that way where
people think that somebody owes

657
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:49,000
them something and when that
person doesn't do what they what

658
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:53,800
they feel like there's like
always this drama and it's like

659
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:58,200
you got to see them to sit down,
have a conversation, they talked

660
00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:01,400
about the things that they
wanted as kids and then when she

661
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:04,300
says, I'm going to go ahead and
be a wisdom.

662
00:42:04,300 --> 00:42:09,700
He says, I know, and he puts his
arm around her and she cries and

663
00:42:09,700 --> 00:42:12,400
he's Just bear holding her like
okay.

664
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:16,100
I know this is your decision and
even though this decision means

665
00:42:16,100 --> 00:42:19,900
that we can't be together that
we won't have children together,

666
00:42:19,900 --> 00:42:23,500
we won't be married.
It was just a very different way

667
00:42:23,500 --> 00:42:28,300
for them to handle that
conversation and I was really

668
00:42:28,300 --> 00:42:31,000
kind of impressed because I
really thought that it was one

669
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:33,300
of those things where he was
like, well we've talked about

670
00:42:33,300 --> 00:42:36,300
this all these years and how
could you do this to me?

671
00:42:36,500 --> 00:42:39,000
There was none of that and I was
so impressed.

672
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:43,000
I was like What?
Also, there are reasons they

673
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:44,800
need to put that relationship
behind him.

674
00:42:46,900 --> 00:42:53,800
Okay, look Okay, Lori.
I mean, I kind of figured that

675
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:56,800
might be the case to but still,
when you think about the fact

676
00:42:56,800 --> 00:43:00,500
that they have been pretty much,
you know, all over each other

677
00:43:00,500 --> 00:43:04,200
since children like there's a
concert in the two rivers in the

678
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:09,100
two rivers, from a very young
age, they, pretty much Start

679
00:43:09,100 --> 00:43:12,000
pairing the kid.
Is that like, they know, kind of

680
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:16,200
know who's going to marry, who
write in, and they've always

681
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:19,400
known pretty much that they were
going to be together, and it is

682
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:21,800
where I ran.
Got it, upset you?

683
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:24,300
This is because she was going to
be his wife.

684
00:43:24,500 --> 00:43:29,500
Yeah, and it seems like, um, you
know how we see it with certain

685
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:32,900
shows characters storylines, or
whatever.

686
00:43:33,100 --> 00:43:37,100
It always seems like those kinds
of marriages are arranged, but

687
00:43:37,100 --> 00:43:40,200
it didn't seem like that in this
instance, because when Randy Is

688
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:44,100
walking with his father.
Who again one of those mental

689
00:43:44,100 --> 00:43:45,700
things.
We talked about this talking

690
00:43:45,700 --> 00:43:48,000
with Hawkeye.
Like I had to take myself out of

691
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:51,300
a moment from another show
because this dude was Roose

692
00:43:51,300 --> 00:43:54,300
Bolton in the Game of Thrones,
he is the whole reason why house

693
00:43:54,300 --> 00:43:58,300
Stark started falling because he
was the one that kind of helped

694
00:43:58,300 --> 00:44:00,700
orchestrate, the Red Wedding.
So I had to see her light.

695
00:44:02,300 --> 00:44:06,100
Why is he in the show?
I was glad he being so nice and

696
00:44:06,100 --> 00:44:08,800
wives respectful and white.
Oh my God.

697
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:12,700
No, not really sad guy.
And then he's having this

698
00:44:12,700 --> 00:44:16,000
conversation with these young
man and it's a real nice

699
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:18,900
conversation, just his whole
appearance in this first

700
00:44:18,900 --> 00:44:21,300
episode.
I was like I liked him as a

701
00:44:21,300 --> 00:44:25,400
father figure.
This is weird but nice but you

702
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:27,000
know they're having a
conversation as they're

703
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:31,200
approaching the town and he
tells ran he's I remember when

704
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:33,600
you used to Pick.
I think it was used to pick

705
00:44:33,700 --> 00:44:38,300
berries and save them for egwene
and I was like, oh, that's so

706
00:44:38,300 --> 00:44:40,600
cute.
But again, it was one of those

707
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:44,200
things where I felt like that
was the story telling us.

708
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:47,300
Okay, this relationship was not
one of those.

709
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:50,400
They're arranged, you know,
their patrol to each other

710
00:44:50,500 --> 00:44:53,900
because that's what the parents
did is like, they clearly chose

711
00:44:53,900 --> 00:44:56,700
each other.
So I think that makes her

712
00:44:56,700 --> 00:45:01,400
decision even more important.
The fact that they've known this

713
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:05,100
since they Kids that they were
going to be together and you

714
00:45:05,100 --> 00:45:07,800
know, when they have the
conversation ran says, you know,

715
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:13,600
I always imagined our children
running in these fields and

716
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:17,300
running in these mountains.
The same way I do as a kid and

717
00:45:17,300 --> 00:45:20,400
you can see her breaking down,
like this is what I wanted to.

718
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:23,800
But now, you know, now that
she's grown or now that she's

719
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:26,800
older heard needs, or her wants
have changed.

720
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:29,000
That doesn't mean she doesn't
still want him and want that

721
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:32,800
life, but it's kind of one of
those things where She realizes

722
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:36,000
that there's something more
important than that little story

723
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:39,200
of that little fantasy or that
little thing that she had as a

724
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:41,400
kid.
And I thought that was really

725
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:46,900
important because a lot of times
you don't see female characters

726
00:45:46,900 --> 00:45:48,900
being able to make those
decisions.

727
00:45:48,900 --> 00:45:52,200
It's like whenever you see me
whenever you see them in shows,

728
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:54,500
like this is always one of
those.

729
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:56,400
They're supposed to be the wife,
they're supposed to be the

730
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:57,900
mother.
I mean, it's basically a

731
00:45:57,908 --> 00:46:01,200
societal Norm, like, women are
supposed to be the wives were

732
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:02,900
supposed to be the king.
Takers were supposed to be the

733
00:46:02,900 --> 00:46:05,100
whole makers were supposed to be
the ones who take care of the

734
00:46:05,100 --> 00:46:10,500
children and here you see, a
young girl who is clearly making

735
00:46:10,500 --> 00:46:14,400
the choice for herself that
okay, this is not all I'm

736
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:17,400
supposed to be.
Let me go do something else and

737
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:20,700
even though she has to sacrifice
the person that she loves to do

738
00:46:20,700 --> 00:46:24,400
this, she stands firm in that
decision, and even though it

739
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:28,400
hurts him, he supports her in
that decision.

740
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:32,200
And I thought that was so
important to see in this A show

741
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:35,900
even in later episodes when they
have a conversation.

742
00:46:36,100 --> 00:46:39,500
Yes, he is upset about it.
He feels heard about it and he

743
00:46:39,500 --> 00:46:43,500
lets her know that he feels
heard about it but, you know,

744
00:46:43,500 --> 00:46:46,600
she gets to the point where she
was, like, I know that you hate

745
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:49,600
me, but if you could just at
least look at me, it'll be okay.

746
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:52,700
This is something that we would
expect to hear from like broken

747
00:46:52,700 --> 00:46:55,600
relationships now and he just
says he looks at her and he was

748
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:59,600
like, I could never hate you and
then they kind of go back to

749
00:46:59,900 --> 00:47:04,700
fixing what they a can of the
friendship that still there.

750
00:47:06,100 --> 00:47:09,000
I felt like that was so
important to show in this show

751
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:11,700
and I don't know if that's what
what happens in the books but

752
00:47:11,700 --> 00:47:15,500
the fact that we're seeing it on
screen and seeing like people

753
00:47:15,500 --> 00:47:19,800
taking a break up people, this
young let me let me stress

754
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:24,600
people this young taking that
kind of break up and being

755
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:28,000
mature about it and able to talk
about it and even though I don't

756
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:32,000
want, I don't really agree with
this decision because it kind of

757
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:35,000
destroys what I thought I you
know what, I was going to do it.

758
00:47:35,100 --> 00:47:37,300
My life.
But I'm still going to support

759
00:47:37,300 --> 00:47:39,100
you.
And what you want to do that

760
00:47:39,100 --> 00:47:43,500
coming from a male to a female.
I was just sitting there

761
00:47:43,500 --> 00:47:49,600
watching like wow.
Can we get more of this in

762
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:51,700
shows?
And then stories involving young

763
00:47:51,700 --> 00:47:54,500
people, because we don't see
that enough so much of the stuff

764
00:47:54,500 --> 00:47:57,800
that we see with young adult
relationships in media.

765
00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:01,200
And, I mean, even in real life,
like I said, you had that

766
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:05,100
codependent that, that thing
where if somebody does something

767
00:48:05,100 --> 00:48:07,900
that's not to the benefit of the
other person, there's a lot of

768
00:48:07,900 --> 00:48:10,600
drama.
There's a lot of tension and all

769
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:15,600
this other stuff and this is
what we need to see more of You

770
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:18,600
know, is this a is this a ya
novel?

771
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:20,500
Or is it just a fantasy novel?
This fan?

772
00:48:20,500 --> 00:48:24,600
It's just a fantasy, but it
starts out like that.

773
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:30,500
Like why was it means I want to
say is back to your thing about

774
00:48:30,500 --> 00:48:33,800
being arranged marriages, it's
not that they arranged

775
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:37,900
marriages, it's just their
belief system about the wheel

776
00:48:37,900 --> 00:48:41,400
and how everything kind of
happens for a reason and things,

777
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:46,600
you know, things happen again
and again, That sometimes they

778
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:50,600
just feel that 2 people are
going to be together so they

779
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:54,300
don't fight it.
So it's not like they arranged

780
00:48:54,300 --> 00:48:57,500
that wave around the vacancy
that they kind of liked each

781
00:48:57,500 --> 00:49:00,100
other.
And so no one was like, oh, they

782
00:49:00,100 --> 00:49:03,000
can't be together or keep them
separate or know.

783
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:04,800
Someone else.
Know, they kind of look like,

784
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:07,400
oh, okay.
That's what you see where this

785
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:08,600
goes.
But that's why I'm saying, what

786
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:11,600
I like about this because that's
what you're supposed.

787
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:17,100
Well, okay, taking into account.
The whole reason marriage exists

788
00:49:17,100 --> 00:49:20,800
in the first place is because
that's what father's, you know,

789
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:25,500
fathers used to give their
daughters as property to a man

790
00:49:25,900 --> 00:49:27,800
as a business transaction.
Okay.

791
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:30,800
And to legitimize children.
Yes, that.

792
00:49:30,900 --> 00:49:35,000
So thinking about it in that
sense, okay?

793
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:38,400
The arranged marriage thing,
that's that's how marriage is

794
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:41,400
started.
But if you are thinking about it

795
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:46,700
in 2021, or whenever this story,
Takes place, or the way that I

796
00:49:46,700 --> 00:49:50,400
think it should be.
People should be able to choose

797
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:52,400
who they marry and not having
assigned to them.

798
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:57,400
And if these kids knew or even
if the parents could see, okay?

799
00:49:57,400 --> 00:49:58,900
There's something going on
there.

800
00:49:58,900 --> 00:50:01,100
Like you said, they just let it
happen, naturally.

801
00:50:01,100 --> 00:50:02,800
Like okay, if they're going to
be together, they're going to be

802
00:50:02,808 --> 00:50:06,300
together if not then, oh well,
but isn't it, what?

803
00:50:06,300 --> 00:50:08,500
It doesn't seem like, it was one
of those things where the

804
00:50:08,500 --> 00:50:11,800
parents were, forcing them to be
together light, you can see it

805
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:14,900
in the show these two characters
clearly love each other.

806
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:18,700
And as a result of that you know
especially them being from a

807
00:50:18,707 --> 00:50:22,500
small town like the parents got
along together even with Matt

808
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:26,000
and parents parents you know
them speaking about them it's

809
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:28,600
like they look out for each
other that's the way

810
00:50:29,300 --> 00:50:32,800
neighborhoods used to be you
know the whole it takes a

811
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:36,800
village to raise a child like
everybody knew what the other

812
00:50:37,300 --> 00:50:40,200
families were doing or you know,
if your mom wasn't home, we're

813
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:43,100
going to watch you and we're
going to take care of you just

814
00:50:43,100 --> 00:50:47,300
as if you are our own child.
You kind of see a little bit of

815
00:50:47,300 --> 00:50:52,000
that in these stories, you know,
even later on when they're on

816
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:55,500
the road, after they've had to
leave the town, you know, Matt

817
00:50:55,500 --> 00:50:58,200
is worried about his sister's
because he's had to leave his

818
00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:00,700
sister's.
With these two dipstick of

819
00:51:00,700 --> 00:51:03,300
parents that, you know, that he
has.

820
00:51:03,500 --> 00:51:06,700
And parent says to him, you
know, he was like the girls will

821
00:51:06,700 --> 00:51:08,500
be alright.
You know, my parents will check

822
00:51:08,500 --> 00:51:10,400
in on Amigo Wayne's parents were
checking on.

823
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:14,000
They'll be fine and you don't
you know again that's that's

824
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:16,600
another thing.
You You don't see that a lot

825
00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:20,000
nowadays.
Damn, just refreshing to see it

826
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:23,900
and you have the scene where in
that Nev goes to pairing and

827
00:51:23,900 --> 00:51:26,600
says Layla is probably by
herself.

828
00:51:27,300 --> 00:51:34,200
You should go check on her, you
know who who can do that now,

829
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:36,000
like can someone walk up to you
to?

830
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:39,300
You don't feel like my business
and blocked.

831
00:51:39,300 --> 00:51:44,100
Right.
So yeah I like that and it is

832
00:51:44,100 --> 00:51:47,200
just There's a there were a lot
of things about this first

833
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:50,800
episode watching it.
That made me say okay, you know

834
00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:53,700
what?
I will continue to watch this

835
00:51:53,700 --> 00:51:58,200
show because there's just
there's a lot of we watch a lot

836
00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:01,900
of TV on the show and we have,
you know, even though we love

837
00:52:01,900 --> 00:52:05,700
the shows and we love the
characters, you can clearly see

838
00:52:05,700 --> 00:52:11,200
issues with things how they're
being protected portrayed Shadow

839
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:14,300
and bone is one of them.
You know, we've had the whole

840
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:19,000
Darkling in the Lino or Malin
Alina debate as far as what's

841
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:22,300
healthy, what's not and how they
portray those relationships.

842
00:52:22,700 --> 00:52:27,800
So again, it's really nice to
see something different.

843
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:30,900
Like you see these two people
like obviously again these are

844
00:52:30,900 --> 00:52:34,100
young people, they're like 20 or
in their early 20s.

845
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:38,600
Param was already married and
getting ready to have a child

846
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:40,400
and he looked very happy about
it.

847
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:44,200
Like you know, you see all these
little memes or you see things

848
00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:46,700
about when people get Getting
married, they're like, oh, you

849
00:52:46,700 --> 00:52:50,500
know what, just put the shackle
on me now, you know, it's like

850
00:52:50,500 --> 00:52:54,600
people look at marriage in such
a Negative light nowadays and,

851
00:52:56,100 --> 00:52:58,800
you know, just to see something
a little bit different, that's

852
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:02,000
refreshing.
Not saying that, you know, the

853
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:04,600
whole institution of marriage,
I'm divorced.

854
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:07,900
So, having gone through that,
experience of what I went

855
00:53:07,900 --> 00:53:11,100
through with for 16 years and
coming out of it.

856
00:53:11,100 --> 00:53:14,200
And what I had to deal with
coming out of it, I've changed

857
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:17,000
my perspective.
On marriage, a lot, especially

858
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:22,800
seeing some relationships that
are not great relationships,

859
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:25,900
toxic relationships, but the
people continue to stay

860
00:53:25,900 --> 00:53:28,500
together.
And then I see relationships,

861
00:53:28,500 --> 00:53:32,300
like yours and like, Mike's and
like Lori's where you guys are

862
00:53:32,300 --> 00:53:35,500
clearly happy with your
spouse's, you have fun together

863
00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:39,100
and it's a healthy relationship.
I don't think we see enough of

864
00:53:39,100 --> 00:53:42,200
that nowadays, you know, the
healthy side of the

865
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:44,300
relationships.
And so I like the fact that we

866
00:53:44,300 --> 00:53:47,700
get to see this.
This in the show not just with

867
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:51,000
the kids or I'm calling them
kids, their 20-somethings.

868
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:56,300
But you know, not just with
Randy gwaine but you see you see

869
00:53:56,600 --> 00:54:01,400
parents, I mean, egg Wayne's
parents, you know together, you

870
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:04,500
see that Rands father.
Apparently, his mother has

871
00:54:04,500 --> 00:54:08,500
passed but his father still has
a lot of love for his mother

872
00:54:08,700 --> 00:54:11,600
when he talks about her, he
talks about her with a lot of

873
00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:15,000
love and respect and they like
the lantern for her, you know.

874
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:17,200
The her soul will find his way
back to the will.

875
00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:21,300
It's just a lot of that that I'm
liking about this series and I

876
00:54:21,300 --> 00:54:24,600
know that's probably going to
change as conflict starts to get

877
00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:28,400
introduced but just for that
first episode it was just

878
00:54:29,100 --> 00:54:32,700
refreshing.
It was a very feel good episode

879
00:54:32,700 --> 00:54:34,700
for me.
Even with all the stuff that

880
00:54:34,700 --> 00:54:36,800
happened at the end with the
Tri-Lakes and everything.

881
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:39,400
It was still just building the
relationships with the

882
00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:43,300
characters and seeing that it
was it was very refreshing for

883
00:54:43,300 --> 00:54:45,900
me.
If the show track Acts like the

884
00:54:45,900 --> 00:54:50,100
books.
Do a lot of it is about

885
00:54:50,100 --> 00:54:52,800
relationships, between me and
the women, okay?

886
00:54:53,300 --> 00:54:58,000
It's a lot about familial
relationships.

887
00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:02,600
It's a lot about platonic
relationships romantic

888
00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:06,800
relationships.
The the whole, the foundation of

889
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:11,400
the series is about reconciling
the conflict between men and

890
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:13,900
women.
He goes all the way back to the

891
00:55:13,900 --> 00:55:17,800
male and the female.
As to die and bitter conflict.

892
00:55:18,100 --> 00:55:23,200
And that's what the the whole
series is almost like he built

893
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:28,800
it on that Foundation, of this
is what you can do when you have

894
00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:33,200
positive relationships between
the Sexes.

895
00:55:33,500 --> 00:55:35,800
So it may that may sound kind of
sexist.

896
00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:39,700
And I do like how in the
beginning they seem to be trying

897
00:55:39,700 --> 00:55:43,100
to write it a little bit
differently by showing you the

898
00:55:43,100 --> 00:55:48,300
same sex relationships and
implying others but it it a lot

899
00:55:48,300 --> 00:55:52,500
of it.
The core of the book series has

900
00:55:52,500 --> 00:55:56,100
a lot to do with that
relationship between side.

901
00:55:56,100 --> 00:55:59,200
Dean and side are the male and
the female side of the one

902
00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:04,600
power, okay?
Okay, now the other relationship

903
00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:09,700
I want to talk about is moraine
and lands because that is I said

904
00:56:09,700 --> 00:56:16,800
I and her water and it's very
clear in this first episode like

905
00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:18,300
she is, she is the one in
charge.

906
00:56:18,300 --> 00:56:22,300
She's the oxidized she's the one
that's powerful but he is also

907
00:56:22,300 --> 00:56:25,800
powerful in his own way.
Even if he doesn't wield the

908
00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:30,200
magic, you know what I'm saying,
when they have to, when they get

909
00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:32,800
ready to fight the trial, looks
Because they're in the town, the

910
00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:35,600
child looks of, you know, come
they're attacking, they're

911
00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:39,500
killing people, she starts
fighting them with her magic,

912
00:56:39,500 --> 00:56:43,800
with the one power and ask the
Tri-Lakes are trying to take her

913
00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:47,200
down.
Here comes Lamb with his sword.

914
00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:53,700
and, His fighting is amazing,
but it's almost.

915
00:56:53,700 --> 00:56:58,300
Like, every time they tried to
go to her, I don't know if it

916
00:56:58,300 --> 00:57:01,300
was just that he was feeling
whatever she was feeling like.

917
00:57:01,300 --> 00:57:05,000
Okay, they're coming at me and
he could kind of sense it but

918
00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:07,500
that do was slicing them down
left and right.

919
00:57:07,500 --> 00:57:13,500
Like I was very impressed by his
fighting and also just the way

920
00:57:13,500 --> 00:57:17,700
that they that they interact
with each other because even

921
00:57:17,700 --> 00:57:21,900
though it's clear that she is
clearly, IE the dominant

922
00:57:21,900 --> 00:57:25,600
personality in this, you know,
in this partnership in this

923
00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:29,400
relationship in this bond that
they have like clearly the way

924
00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:33,100
that they that they establish,
it looks like the ice and I are

925
00:57:33,100 --> 00:57:37,900
the superiors and the, the
waters are kind of like their

926
00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:41,600
their submissives.
You know, it's kind of like a

927
00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:45,300
role reversal but it's not in,
that was shut up.

928
00:57:45,300 --> 00:57:48,600
Anthony, I wasn't mean to me.
Come on, man.

929
00:57:48,700 --> 00:57:50,000
You know, I was thinking the
same thing.

930
00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:53,900
Hippies I was trying to think of
different words so that our

931
00:57:53,900 --> 00:57:57,200
minds wouldn't go there.
But I mean thinking about it

932
00:57:57,200 --> 00:58:05,100
like and without without without
giving too much away, I don't

933
00:58:05,100 --> 00:58:08,600
know if you want to know more
about the ice of that I and the

934
00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:11,300
bomb, they have with the waters.
Yes, I do.

935
00:58:11,900 --> 00:58:13,000
You do?
Yes.

936
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:17,900
Okay, so before we get into that
can we talk about?

937
00:58:17,900 --> 00:58:19,900
Okay, Mike.
Can we talk?

938
00:58:20,100 --> 00:58:24,500
About Rosamund, Pike?
How she just walks into that

939
00:58:24,500 --> 00:58:28,400
room and she owns in bones of
it.

940
00:58:28,500 --> 00:58:33,100
Like, literally, literally she
is, she owns every any room she

941
00:58:33,100 --> 00:58:36,100
walks in and start roam, like,
it doesn't matter like

942
00:58:36,300 --> 00:58:38,300
everybody.
This literally literally a

943
00:58:38,300 --> 00:58:41,500
climax moment cuz everybody take
the men, all paused women, All

944
00:58:41,500 --> 00:58:44,300
Pause everybody pauses.
But she walks in, it's just

945
00:58:44,300 --> 00:58:48,600
like, and she was just, I mean,
even when her won't win Lynn

946
00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:52,200
walked in, they were Everybody
kind of pause to they were like

947
00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:55,500
you know when the extra meeting
took his hood off and it's just

948
00:58:55,500 --> 00:59:00,100
me and said, I'm laying and this
is and introduce her and soon as

949
00:59:00,100 --> 00:59:04,100
she walked in everyone's like oh
shit, like their reputation

950
00:59:04,100 --> 00:59:08,200
precedes them so much that it's
just like if they know who that

951
00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:10,900
you're one of them, they're just
like, oh, okay cool.

952
00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:12,700
Hey, whatever you need, I got
you.

953
00:59:12,700 --> 00:59:14,500
Yeah, I'll get your horses.
I'll get you.

954
00:59:14,500 --> 00:59:16,700
I'll get your bags.
I got you this go up here

955
00:59:16,700 --> 00:59:18,000
whenever you need it.
This way.

956
00:59:18,400 --> 00:59:22,000
Isn't it that?
She walked in and and was only

957
00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:24,900
introduced by her first name and
then I think it was a big

958
00:59:24,900 --> 00:59:29,200
Wayne's mom who was who, I guess
they own that Tavern.

959
00:59:29,400 --> 00:59:33,200
And she said Morena, I said
Morena sarasu die.

960
00:59:33,300 --> 00:59:36,400
Yeah.
She saw her ring and all I said,

961
00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:39,900
I wear ring with their colorizer
Stone in it.

962
00:59:40,300 --> 00:59:42,200
She saw him.
She immediately knew who she

963
00:59:42,200 --> 00:59:43,200
was.
Yeah.

964
00:59:43,600 --> 00:59:47,100
And and you give them the
respect, they deserve.

965
00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:51,600
Yes, she walked in.
And everybody was like, Right?

966
00:59:51,600 --> 00:59:55,200
Okay, I have a question about
the ring now, do they do?

967
00:59:55,200 --> 00:59:59,500
They need the Rings to focus
their photos, their powers, or

968
00:59:59,500 --> 01:00:01,700
can they do it without the ring
in the books?

969
01:00:01,900 --> 01:00:05,000
They don't need the rain, okay?
Okay.

970
01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:07,600
I don't know if that's because
it kind of seemed like even in

971
01:00:07,600 --> 01:00:10,700
the beginning with the fire type
or whatever, the one in the red

972
01:00:10,700 --> 01:00:12,900
coat.
Like when she, when she killed

973
01:00:12,900 --> 01:00:16,800
the guy like right there, and it
looked like she was like

974
01:00:16,900 --> 01:00:19,500
bawling, like, clenching her
fists with the ring on it.

975
01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:22,800
Mike She was like dry like she
was driving power from it.

976
01:00:22,900 --> 01:00:26,300
So I was just wondering if there
was like, if they need if that

977
01:00:26,300 --> 01:00:30,700
was absolutely necessary for
them to I'm I'm like you, I was

978
01:00:30,700 --> 01:00:34,500
thinking that because later,
there's a scene between Marina

979
01:00:34,500 --> 01:00:38,500
and Wayne where she's trying to
get her to focus and I'm

980
01:00:38,500 --> 01:00:41,200
thinking because this is not
from, I'm thinking he's going to

981
01:00:41,200 --> 01:00:46,500
be a part of what they want to
do in the show to help viewers,

982
01:00:46,500 --> 01:00:49,900
understand how they're focusing
their powers.

983
01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:52,900
It's okay, but you'll see later
that it does, you don't need a

984
01:00:52,908 --> 01:00:56,300
ring to do it.
The intense your question.

985
01:00:56,400 --> 01:00:59,100
I'm going to say no, they don't
need the ring, okay?

986
01:00:59,900 --> 01:01:04,400
It may be part of the training
and maybe part of how they going

987
01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:08,700
to do in the show, learning how
to focus your powers and then

988
01:01:08,700 --> 01:01:12,500
you just keep it but it's not
they don't need it to do it.

989
01:01:13,700 --> 01:01:17,700
Okay?
So the Aisa die.

990
01:01:18,600 --> 01:01:23,500
And you hear this later when
people talk to eisah die they

991
01:01:23,500 --> 01:01:26,000
will say their first name and
said I hmm.

992
01:01:26,200 --> 01:01:28,000
That's just the way they're
addressed.

993
01:01:28,300 --> 01:01:34,000
So the bond between a water and
I said, I so the bond started

994
01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:37,700
right after the breaking, when
they needed to be protected

995
01:01:37,900 --> 01:01:43,000
because the regular common folk
didn't know who was breaking the

996
01:01:43,000 --> 01:01:47,600
world, they just knew someone
people who could Channel were

997
01:01:47,600 --> 01:01:52,000
ripping Sit up.
And so a lot of I said, I

998
01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:56,500
realize we need guys Warriors
secret protect us.

999
01:01:56,700 --> 01:02:01,500
Okay, so they started bonding
the strong Warriors to protect

1000
01:02:01,500 --> 01:02:02,500
them.
Okay.

1001
01:02:03,000 --> 01:02:07,800
Now, A lot of times, it was
against their will.

1002
01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:11,900
Hmm?
And once you're a bonded, you

1003
01:02:11,900 --> 01:02:14,700
must do everything.
The answer that I asked you to

1004
01:02:14,707 --> 01:02:18,000
do.
OK, they have no choice.

1005
01:02:18,400 --> 01:02:23,400
So, if Marine tells land to do
something whether or not he

1006
01:02:23,400 --> 01:02:25,700
wants to do it, is irrelevant,
okay?

1007
01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:28,500
Now, she's not the type of
person that would do that.

1008
01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:31,300
I was going to say, it doesn't
appear that they have that type

1009
01:02:31,300 --> 01:02:36,900
of relationship, like they seem
very Very well in tune with each

1010
01:02:36,900 --> 01:02:42,200
other and they seemed very
protective and very respectful

1011
01:02:42,200 --> 01:02:46,600
of each other.
You can for me, even though land

1012
01:02:46,600 --> 01:02:50,500
is one of those people, he
doesn't say a lot, you know,

1013
01:02:50,500 --> 01:02:55,300
he's one of those quiet types
but it kind of like Rosamund

1014
01:02:55,300 --> 01:02:58,400
Pike.
He makes his presence known like

1015
01:02:58,400 --> 01:03:03,500
right and them together like
it's almost like when they

1016
01:03:03,500 --> 01:03:05,100
converse with each.
Other.

1017
01:03:06,400 --> 01:03:10,300
They really don't have to say a
lot like I feel like because of

1018
01:03:10,300 --> 01:03:13,700
whatever that bond is that they
can feel what what the other

1019
01:03:13,700 --> 01:03:17,200
person is feeling.
It's almost like you're watching

1020
01:03:17,200 --> 01:03:20,200
a silent conversation with them
is like they're speaking one

1021
01:03:20,200 --> 01:03:25,200
thing, like the part where she
was looking and he said, do you

1022
01:03:25,200 --> 01:03:29,200
know who it is?
And she was like, No And then he

1023
01:03:29,200 --> 01:03:34,400
just kind of looked at her.
It's almost like he felt what

1024
01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:36,700
she was thinking.
Like she said, No, I don't think

1025
01:03:36,700 --> 01:03:38,900
it's, I don't think it's one
person.

1026
01:03:38,900 --> 01:03:42,300
I think at that point, she
realized it might be more than

1027
01:03:42,300 --> 01:03:47,000
one person that could Channel,
you know, and I don't know if

1028
01:03:47,000 --> 01:03:52,600
she can feel the one power or
their potential in that person.

1029
01:03:52,800 --> 01:03:56,600
But the way that they spoke to
each other's kind of like, okay,

1030
01:03:56,600 --> 01:04:00,000
they're having one conversation
with their lips and then it's

1031
01:04:00,000 --> 01:04:02,100
almost like with their eyes, and
their minds, they're having a

1032
01:04:02,107 --> 01:04:05,900
whole different conversation,
but they are always in sync.

1033
01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:09,200
At least, you know, in this
first episode, they seem to move

1034
01:04:09,200 --> 01:04:12,600
as one, like, she's doing
something over here, and he's

1035
01:04:12,600 --> 01:04:17,400
doing something over here, but
they're protecting each other at

1036
01:04:17,400 --> 01:04:20,600
the same time and their
movements are very complementary

1037
01:04:20,600 --> 01:04:23,700
to each other.
Yeah, a lot of it comes from

1038
01:04:24,000 --> 01:04:27,100
come from experience who
seasoned experienced Warrior

1039
01:04:28,300 --> 01:04:31,800
benefits of the bomb, they fill
each other's emotions.

1040
01:04:33,100 --> 01:04:38,000
They feel each other's pain with
the word.

1041
01:04:38,000 --> 01:04:40,000
Watch each other's backs and the
hot tubs.

1042
01:04:40,200 --> 01:04:46,300
Yeah.
Ooh yes yeah that's the water if

1043
01:04:46,300 --> 01:04:49,300
he's already a superb Warrior
like Lan.

1044
01:04:49,300 --> 01:04:54,200
Is he basically threw the bomb
becomes like Captain America.

1045
01:04:54,500 --> 01:04:58,200
He has increased stamina
increased strength, increased

1046
01:04:58,200 --> 01:05:05,100
speed, increase healing and he's
gonna stay This way until he

1047
01:05:05,100 --> 01:05:08,400
dies of old age, okay?
Like he even when he's an old

1048
01:05:08,400 --> 01:05:12,600
man, he'll still be just as
strong and fast, as powerful as

1049
01:05:12,600 --> 01:05:15,800
he is.
Now, that's awesome.

1050
01:05:15,800 --> 01:05:18,600
That's pretty cool.
Now, that that's how it is in

1051
01:05:18,600 --> 01:05:22,100
the books.
There's some other stuff I could

1052
01:05:22,100 --> 01:05:24,200
tell you, but they might be too
much.

1053
01:05:24,200 --> 01:05:28,000
But yes, you men can be bonded
against their will and it's not

1054
01:05:28,000 --> 01:05:30,900
and you can have Waters and it
is you combine.

1055
01:05:30,900 --> 01:05:37,100
The anyone is this that they
chose to bond men who could

1056
01:05:37,100 --> 01:05:40,700
protect them.
Okay, she bonded land for a

1057
01:05:40,700 --> 01:05:43,900
reason and but we'll learn more
about that later.

1058
01:05:44,200 --> 01:05:46,500
Okay.
Now the other thing that I

1059
01:05:46,500 --> 01:05:51,600
noticed in regards to Moraine
and I can't Remember what?

1060
01:05:51,600 --> 01:05:53,200
The red.
Asha.

1061
01:05:54,100 --> 01:05:55,700
I can't remember what her name
is.

1062
01:05:56,000 --> 01:05:57,500
The blond chick at the
beginning.

1063
01:05:58,100 --> 01:06:00,900
Little Andhra.
Yes, yes.

1064
01:06:01,400 --> 01:06:07,400
Now I noticed she The n.
And let me ask this question

1065
01:06:07,400 --> 01:06:12,300
also about the other episodes
that we've seen the reds, don't

1066
01:06:12,300 --> 01:06:16,500
have Waters correct.
They do like they are, they are

1067
01:06:16,500 --> 01:06:18,800
their own.
It's kind of like they're their

1068
01:06:18,800 --> 01:06:24,500
own Warrior group and I get the
feeling that they are not

1069
01:06:24,500 --> 01:06:28,400
particularly appreciative of
men, like they, they're the ones

1070
01:06:28,400 --> 01:06:33,900
that that hate men or something.
Shit, all kinds of dip.

1071
01:06:53,100 --> 01:06:55,400
So yeah.
Yeah cuz it's like if she was

1072
01:06:55,400 --> 01:06:59,300
she was talking about him like
almost like since he like when

1073
01:06:59,300 --> 01:07:02,000
he has the magic flowing through
him shoot, she's acting like he

1074
01:07:02,000 --> 01:07:06,700
was getting the magic dirty like
Like Ziggy in that filthy you

1075
01:07:06,700 --> 01:07:09,700
like he was painting a gift and
you're getting it filled, it was

1076
01:07:09,700 --> 01:07:13,600
already tail.
And there is don't believe that

1077
01:07:13,600 --> 01:07:17,700
men should Channel.
They believe that the 1 power is

1078
01:07:17,700 --> 01:07:20,800
only for women, okay?
That's where my confusion was

1079
01:07:20,800 --> 01:07:24,400
coming in, because that's why I
thought that's what the the

1080
01:07:24,400 --> 01:07:27,900
actual thing was with them
because I remember her saying

1081
01:07:27,900 --> 01:07:31,500
that, so I was like, oh, so the
women are the only ones that

1082
01:07:31,500 --> 01:07:33,300
supposed to have a.
So when you said something about

1083
01:07:33,300 --> 01:07:37,900
male I said I That's why I was
like huh so three thousand years

1084
01:07:37,900 --> 01:07:40,000
of lot.
A lot of things can change.

1085
01:07:40,200 --> 01:07:42,700
That's true.
That is true with a lot of

1086
01:07:42,700 --> 01:07:44,900
things.
Stay the same to unfortunate.

1087
01:07:47,400 --> 01:07:51,400
Yeah, the Reds if you re coming
man, your dude and you're not

1088
01:07:51,400 --> 01:07:54,100
challenge, you don't Channel,
you can't Channel then I have a

1089
01:07:54,107 --> 01:07:57,300
problem with you, okay?
But if you don't man and you can

1090
01:07:57,300 --> 01:08:02,900
Channel your problem and you
taken care of So, let me ask you

1091
01:08:02,900 --> 01:08:07,200
this question.
If you can answer it, what are

1092
01:08:07,700 --> 01:08:11,900
for each?
Genre with the color associated,

1093
01:08:11,900 --> 01:08:13,500
what is their designation like?
Reds?

1094
01:08:13,500 --> 01:08:15,600
Know what?
Harry Reid is not military.

1095
01:08:15,900 --> 01:08:20,700
Oh, well, they really do like
militant now, they do militants.

1096
01:08:20,700 --> 01:08:23,200
Alerting, the Fire Nation.
Water Nation.

1097
01:08:24,600 --> 01:08:27,399
Here we go again.
Yeah, it's Greece.

1098
01:08:27,399 --> 01:08:32,600
Are you today, right?
Yeah, literally I mean if you

1099
01:08:32,600 --> 01:08:36,100
can't answer that's fine but I
was hurting you answer it and it

1100
01:08:36,100 --> 01:08:40,500
not be a spoiler because we
haven't.

1101
01:08:40,899 --> 01:08:44,600
Okay, it's alright.
So we've seen the red, you see,

1102
01:08:44,600 --> 01:08:55,399
Moraine is Blue Blues are.
I think think of the Blues is

1103
01:08:55,399 --> 01:08:58,300
like CIA?
Okay, no, one really knows what

1104
01:08:58,300 --> 01:09:01,200
they're up to.
They just off doing their own

1105
01:09:01,200 --> 01:09:02,600
thing.
Okay?

1106
01:09:03,200 --> 01:09:07,700
They can be gone from the tire
for years and no one know what

1107
01:09:07,700 --> 01:09:10,500
they're up to.
And the the tower is where the I

1108
01:09:10,500 --> 01:09:14,300
said I reside.
Yes, the White Tower tar valon.

1109
01:09:14,800 --> 01:09:18,700
Okay, it's interesting.
You if you look up a map of tar

1110
01:09:18,700 --> 01:09:21,700
valon, have you seen what the
map looks like?

1111
01:09:22,000 --> 01:09:24,600
Know.
What is it look like?

1112
01:09:24,700 --> 01:09:27,399
No, just okay.
I'll go, we have a chance.

1113
01:09:27,399 --> 01:09:28,399
Go look.
Okay.

1114
01:09:30,000 --> 01:09:32,700
I haven't seen it but I have a
good idea what it might look

1115
01:09:32,700 --> 01:09:36,300
like.
So okay, so blue think of the

1116
01:09:36,300 --> 01:09:42,800
Blues is like the CIA rids, then
your militant group.

1117
01:09:43,000 --> 01:09:46,200
They don't lose you usually just
have one water.

1118
01:09:46,600 --> 01:09:48,600
Well, they always have one.
Worker res.

1119
01:09:48,600 --> 01:09:53,700
Don't have Waters.
They are your militant me and

1120
01:09:53,700 --> 01:09:57,200
him channel.
Should be stilled gentled or

1121
01:09:57,200 --> 01:10:02,300
killed Then you have your green
sisters.

1122
01:10:02,800 --> 01:10:05,700
They are the bat Elijah.
That's the military.

1123
01:10:06,800 --> 01:10:10,900
They're the ones that will have
three, four, five, Seas Waters.

1124
01:10:12,700 --> 01:10:16,200
Aries purposes.
They will have one sometimes

1125
01:10:16,200 --> 01:10:20,600
who's usually a badass but
they're the ones that that got

1126
01:10:20,600 --> 01:10:23,000
there may their bones during the
battle.

1127
01:10:23,300 --> 01:10:25,300
During one of the first battles,
okay.

1128
01:10:27,000 --> 01:10:31,300
Green bin is the brown.
We haven't met any brown yet.

1129
01:10:31,800 --> 01:10:35,700
I think we've seen a yellow I
think that.

1130
01:10:35,700 --> 01:10:38,700
Yeah, I think this in one of the
later episode, when we observe

1131
01:10:40,200 --> 01:10:43,300
the brown there into knowledge,
I always think of the Browns is

1132
01:10:43,300 --> 01:10:47,400
like monks, no case.
I'll be really concerned about

1133
01:10:47,400 --> 01:10:54,200
his knowledge, then you have the
green agreeing.

1134
01:10:54,200 --> 01:11:04,100
Yellow, yellow are the healers,
okay, green, yellow white, They

1135
01:11:04,100 --> 01:11:11,900
are into philosophy.
Okay, then the gray Asia are

1136
01:11:11,900 --> 01:11:14,500
pretty much trying to make sure
everyone is.

1137
01:11:14,800 --> 01:11:18,900
Okay, they look for consensus.
You try to balance everything

1138
01:11:18,900 --> 01:11:22,200
out there, the okay, okay, I was
gonna say are they the people

1139
01:11:22,200 --> 01:11:23,700
Pleasers?
But no.

1140
01:11:23,700 --> 01:11:28,800
Yes, okay, okay, yeah, okay, now
here's another question that I

1141
01:11:28,800 --> 01:11:33,100
have because, again, we talked
about this, this chalak attack

1142
01:11:33,100 --> 01:11:36,500
on all the villages and
everything and ran to his

1143
01:11:36,500 --> 01:11:39,600
father.
They are They are, they live up

1144
01:11:39,600 --> 01:11:41,700
the mountain.
So I don't think they're part of

1145
01:11:41,700 --> 01:11:44,300
the village, but also not a part
of the village.

1146
01:11:44,300 --> 01:11:47,500
Am I correct in that department?
They're probably the village,

1147
01:11:47,500 --> 01:11:50,200
but he's like a their ship.
He's like a Shepherd.

1148
01:11:50,200 --> 01:11:52,300
Okay.
So they live in the mountains.

1149
01:11:52,300 --> 01:11:58,500
So one of the chalak scums to
their cabin and attacks them, is

1150
01:11:58,500 --> 01:12:02,200
there any significant?
So when they start fighting his

1151
01:12:02,200 --> 01:12:06,300
father, pulls out weapons from
like, AB under the bed from

1152
01:12:06,300 --> 01:12:11,600
hiding, like, almost Like they
were never meant to see the

1153
01:12:11,600 --> 01:12:13,800
light of day again, but he pulls
these out.

1154
01:12:13,800 --> 01:12:17,500
He knew what the trollops were
and he's fighting these try.

1155
01:12:17,500 --> 01:12:19,400
Looks like he's fought them
before.

1156
01:12:19,800 --> 01:12:23,800
And one of the things that
happens is he pulls out a sword

1157
01:12:24,100 --> 01:12:28,400
and when he pulls the sword out
the camera, very specifically

1158
01:12:28,400 --> 01:12:31,500
focuses on.
I think it looks like a heron on

1159
01:12:31,500 --> 01:12:34,900
the hilt of the sword.
Is that something that's going

1160
01:12:34,900 --> 01:12:38,300
to be important later on because
they don't really reference It

1161
01:12:38,300 --> 01:12:42,800
again, in the first, like I
said, for five episodes that are

1162
01:12:42,800 --> 01:12:45,600
already out, but is that going
to be something important later

1163
01:12:45,600 --> 01:12:46,900
on?
Hmm.

1164
01:12:47,100 --> 01:12:48,500
Okay, that's what I need to
know.

1165
01:12:48,600 --> 01:12:55,900
Okay, okay, the other thing is
wild, the tropics are attacking

1166
01:12:57,900 --> 01:13:01,800
the village and everything.
Nine Avis carried off by 19.

1167
01:13:03,000 --> 01:13:07,500
He's not Nev 98.
She is carried off by one.

1168
01:13:08,600 --> 01:13:13,100
And you know, egwene Witnesses
this.

1169
01:13:13,100 --> 01:13:15,500
And you know, she's trying to
help everyone else.

1170
01:13:15,500 --> 01:13:18,800
Like I said, they are cutting
down people in the village,

1171
01:13:18,800 --> 01:13:24,400
luckily her parents, both seem
to survive, Matt and his folks

1172
01:13:24,400 --> 01:13:28,300
survive and the sisters.
Like we said Perrin,

1173
01:13:28,600 --> 01:13:32,300
unfortunately, he survives but
he accidentally kills his wife

1174
01:13:32,300 --> 01:13:37,500
in the process and then while
rants father is fighting the

1175
01:13:37,500 --> 01:13:40,400
trial Like he basically tells
ran to leave.

1176
01:13:40,400 --> 01:13:43,100
He's like, go, go, go.
You have to leave.

1177
01:13:43,100 --> 01:13:48,600
And I felt like, okay.
So whatever happens at towards

1178
01:13:48,600 --> 01:13:54,500
the end when Moran says you, you
know, one of you for might be

1179
01:13:54,500 --> 01:13:56,000
able to channel and just and
other.

1180
01:13:56,100 --> 01:14:00,500
I felt like his dad already knew
that because he was so intent on

1181
01:14:00,900 --> 01:14:06,200
you, go, you go save yourself.
Get out of here, and I mean,

1182
01:14:06,200 --> 01:14:07,800
they were able to kill the
child.

1183
01:14:07,900 --> 01:14:14,300
He, you know, he got his father
to the village for assistance to

1184
01:14:14,300 --> 01:14:17,500
help heal him because he did get
injured during this fight.

1185
01:14:17,700 --> 01:14:21,200
But when Moraine tells them,
okay, you guys have to come with

1186
01:14:21,200 --> 01:14:23,000
me to try Alex were here for
you.

1187
01:14:23,100 --> 01:14:26,500
It could be one of you for
someone of the four of you can

1188
01:14:26,700 --> 01:14:30,400
Channel mad magic or channel.
The one power you have to we

1189
01:14:30,400 --> 01:14:33,000
have to leave immediately
because if not the chocolates

1190
01:14:33,000 --> 01:14:35,800
are going to follow us and then
literally you can see in the

1191
01:14:35,800 --> 01:14:38,800
distance.
All of these little Oil fire

1192
01:14:38,800 --> 01:14:41,600
lights coming down from the
mountain and it supposedly

1193
01:14:41,700 --> 01:14:43,400
hundreds and hundreds of
products.

1194
01:14:43,700 --> 01:14:47,600
Coming to the Village again.
After these, you know, kids, I

1195
01:14:47,600 --> 01:14:51,200
keep saying kids, but, you know,
so at the end of the episode,

1196
01:14:51,200 --> 01:14:53,700
they get on horses and they have
to leave the village and they go

1197
01:14:53,700 --> 01:14:58,600
with marine and land and it's
just one of those things where

1198
01:14:58,600 --> 01:15:04,500
it's like, I felt like his dad
knew that that was going to

1199
01:15:04,500 --> 01:15:07,700
happen or was anticipating that
something like that.

1200
01:15:07,900 --> 01:15:10,800
Can happen.
And then again like I said, he

1201
01:15:10,800 --> 01:15:14,000
got into the fight, they
showcase the little, you know,

1202
01:15:14,300 --> 01:15:18,200
the little symbol on the sword.
And I was like, okay, there's

1203
01:15:18,200 --> 01:15:21,200
more to his story, which I hope
will find out.

1204
01:15:21,200 --> 01:15:25,100
But of course, you know, five
episodes in, we don't go back to

1205
01:15:25,100 --> 01:15:27,700
the two rivers.
So I don't know what's going on

1206
01:15:27,700 --> 01:15:31,500
with Dad, or if we'll see dad,
again to find out more about

1207
01:15:31,500 --> 01:15:34,100
this story, but I just thought
that was really interesting.

1208
01:15:34,100 --> 01:15:36,600
Like why are they focusing on
this little bird on Hill?

1209
01:15:38,600 --> 01:15:41,500
Okay.
Huh.

1210
01:15:41,800 --> 01:15:43,700
No comment.
Yeah, yeah.

1211
01:15:43,700 --> 01:15:45,800
He's a part of the House of Hair
on.

1212
01:15:45,900 --> 01:15:50,500
I mean, Anthony did say
something about houses in this

1213
01:15:50,500 --> 01:15:53,300
soul.
Anthony.

1214
01:15:54,500 --> 01:15:57,600
I'm not saying it but what I'm
thinking about certain person's,

1215
01:15:57,600 --> 01:16:02,000
father, may I be correct in
thinking, that that may be

1216
01:16:02,000 --> 01:16:04,000
something that we might have
guessed.

1217
01:16:05,200 --> 01:16:09,300
Is that big enough that was
real.

1218
01:16:09,300 --> 01:16:13,900
It was really big.
Okay, okay.

1219
01:16:14,600 --> 01:16:17,100
Okay.
There's there's there's let's

1220
01:16:17,100 --> 01:16:21,200
just say that that, that may be
someone who has a sword from

1221
01:16:21,200 --> 01:16:24,400
their father to Father, may have
had another life before the

1222
01:16:24,400 --> 01:16:28,300
village is that is if that's
what I'm thinking is Frankie

1223
01:16:28,300 --> 01:16:33,000
from the way, the way that the
kind of shot that whole scene

1224
01:16:33,000 --> 01:16:36,200
with him fighting it, that's all
Most obvious right?

1225
01:16:36,200 --> 01:16:40,400
Not knowing not knowing if I'm
looking at it and pretending

1226
01:16:40,400 --> 01:16:43,400
that I don't know, I would like
wait a second.

1227
01:16:43,400 --> 01:16:45,000
He's supposed to be just a sheep
herder.

1228
01:16:45,000 --> 01:16:49,400
He said there, he's if he was
younger, he would have cut that

1229
01:16:49,400 --> 01:16:52,900
trolley down easily.
Write almost the same way that

1230
01:16:52,900 --> 01:16:55,600
land was doing it.
Right, right.

1231
01:16:55,600 --> 01:16:59,400
That's what I was trying.
Not to, I think this one seems.

1232
01:16:59,400 --> 01:17:01,600
Were you see it on screen,
right?

1233
01:17:02,900 --> 01:17:04,500
Okay, okay.
I'll just say what?

1234
01:17:05,000 --> 01:17:09,000
Order to answering that question
with, okay.

1235
01:17:09,000 --> 01:17:10,700
You know what?
No he wasn't.

1236
01:17:10,700 --> 01:17:13,700
Awarded that's not his fault.
Okay, moving toward all right.

1237
01:17:13,700 --> 01:17:16,900
So so he's the other, he's the
other but I got my answer.

1238
01:17:20,900 --> 01:17:38,000
Your actual podcast you know I'm
cutting all the thing is this I

1239
01:17:38,000 --> 01:17:42,500
read the first book and first of
all, then getting from the

1240
01:17:42,500 --> 01:17:45,600
cottage to the Village took
three and a half hours in the

1241
01:17:45,600 --> 01:17:48,600
audiobook.
Seriously it literally took

1242
01:17:48,600 --> 01:17:50,200
three hours to go from the
cabin.

1243
01:17:50,300 --> 01:17:54,800
And to the Village to deliver
the Brandy absent are going is

1244
01:17:54,800 --> 01:18:04,600
on pages of him talking about.
And so that's when I start

1245
01:18:04,600 --> 01:18:20,200
reading the book.
Yes, okay.

1246
01:18:20,200 --> 01:18:21,200
Yes.
Oh yeah.

1247
01:18:21,200 --> 01:18:24,400
Oh yeah, but but what was what
was I guess?

1248
01:18:24,400 --> 01:18:26,500
What I'm saying is that, like
it?

1249
01:18:26,500 --> 01:18:28,900
Like we said earlier, you could
just tick off a list of things

1250
01:18:29,100 --> 01:18:32,200
because Well, I'm not going to
say there's another part, which

1251
01:18:32,200 --> 01:18:36,700
is the only one because remember
nine Eve is not from the two

1252
01:18:36,700 --> 01:18:40,300
rivers, right?
Right.

1253
01:18:40,600 --> 01:18:43,000
Y'all her.
I kind of got it.

1254
01:18:43,000 --> 01:18:45,800
Yeah.
Cause she's from Essence field,

1255
01:18:47,700 --> 01:18:51,500
but yes, she's not, she's not
from the two rivers.

1256
01:18:51,900 --> 01:18:55,700
Yes, I got.
I got that part which again, but

1257
01:18:55,700 --> 01:18:57,500
there's something going on with
that, too.

1258
01:18:57,500 --> 01:18:59,400
Which I haven't got to yet, but
I have an idea.

1259
01:18:59,600 --> 01:19:03,400
So my, so my thing is that all
right, we get that tan is

1260
01:19:03,400 --> 01:19:06,100
probably not originally a sheep
herd.

1261
01:19:06,500 --> 01:19:09,000
Not the most exciting career,
but a someone's got this know,

1262
01:19:09,000 --> 01:19:18,400
this is true because, you know,
growing up because he knows how

1263
01:19:18,400 --> 01:19:20,900
to be a Seaport of.
So he came back to be a sea

1264
01:19:20,900 --> 01:19:24,100
Predator.
Yeah, yeah it's obvious that he

1265
01:19:24,100 --> 01:19:27,300
knows how to do it.
I'm just anyway, I'm just

1266
01:19:28,900 --> 01:19:30,700
there's a reason.
And take all my uncle's far

1267
01:19:30,700 --> 01:19:31,900
because I didn't want to be a
farmer.

1268
01:19:33,400 --> 01:19:42,700
But my thing is, is that I well,
I'm gonna have a question.

1269
01:19:42,700 --> 01:19:47,100
I can ask you can ask a question
that doesn't mean no.

1270
01:19:47,100 --> 01:19:50,200
Don't let her ask the question
because then Mike and I will

1271
01:19:50,200 --> 01:19:55,300
start our gives our start
turning and will be like yeah,

1272
01:19:55,400 --> 01:19:57,600
no, no.
I was just curious about tan

1273
01:19:57,600 --> 01:20:01,600
because I I think I know where
that might go, but that's what

1274
01:20:01,600 --> 01:20:07,000
my other question about the
whole thing is that, that whole

1275
01:20:07,000 --> 01:20:11,300
discussion that they have at the
beginning of the book, which

1276
01:20:11,300 --> 01:20:13,800
they don't really show in the
episode where they're

1277
01:20:13,800 --> 01:20:17,700
discussing, you know, news of
events happening in other

1278
01:20:17,700 --> 01:20:19,200
Villages.
The whole thing with the mayor

1279
01:20:19,200 --> 01:20:23,000
and all of that.
Does any part of these books?

1280
01:20:23,000 --> 01:20:28,400
Do they ever go back to the two
rivers or is it once they're

1281
01:20:28,400 --> 01:20:29,500
gone?
They're gone bad.

1282
01:20:29,600 --> 01:20:31,300
To be a spoiler.
Okay?

1283
01:20:31,300 --> 01:20:34,900
Yeah, okay, okay.
I'm trying to think there was

1284
01:20:34,900 --> 01:20:40,400
one other question that I had.
And I can't think of it.

1285
01:20:40,400 --> 01:20:43,700
So I think of it later, I think
of it later.

1286
01:20:44,000 --> 01:20:48,500
But yeah, as far as is it tan or
tam-tam?

1287
01:20:49,600 --> 01:20:50,400
Okay.
Tam.

1288
01:20:50,600 --> 01:20:57,000
Yeah, it's obvious that he Bilbo
Baggins somewhere in his life.

1289
01:20:57,000 --> 01:21:00,500
Like he went on some kind of
little adventure and I don't

1290
01:21:00,500 --> 01:21:03,000
know, I guess I kind of feel
like, with the way that he

1291
01:21:03,000 --> 01:21:07,000
pulled his weapons out, like I
said, it almost felt like he was

1292
01:21:07,000 --> 01:21:09,600
hiding the Weapons.
Because when he pulled them out

1293
01:21:09,600 --> 01:21:11,800
and started fighting ran was
looking at him.

1294
01:21:11,800 --> 01:21:13,900
Like what the fuck?
Where the hell did this come

1295
01:21:13,900 --> 01:21:18,600
from?
So I feel like whatever he was

1296
01:21:18,600 --> 01:21:20,900
doing in his life where he
needed those weapons.

1297
01:21:20,900 --> 01:21:25,700
Like, he probably came back to
his village because he was

1298
01:21:25,700 --> 01:21:28,600
hiding from something or he was
running away from something, or

1299
01:21:28,600 --> 01:21:33,500
he was, he was putting some part
of his life in the rearview

1300
01:21:33,500 --> 01:21:36,300
mirror, so to speak saying,
okay, you know what, that part

1301
01:21:36,300 --> 01:21:38,800
of my life is gone?
I'm not I'm not going to touch

1302
01:21:38,800 --> 01:21:41,100
that again.
But of course, when you have

1303
01:21:41,500 --> 01:21:44,700
those types of people or those
types of stories where they may

1304
01:21:44,700 --> 01:21:48,200
have gone, they may have, you
know, been some kind of warrior

1305
01:21:48,600 --> 01:21:53,700
or whatever even though they
they come back and they put that

1306
01:21:53,700 --> 01:21:58,700
part of themselves away.
It's always there just in case,

1307
01:21:59,200 --> 01:22:02,700
you know, because like I said,
when the trolley showed up in

1308
01:22:02,700 --> 01:22:07,500
the in his house, I'm not going
to say that.

1309
01:22:07,600 --> 01:22:11,600
He was surprised, but I'm not
going to say, he wasn't

1310
01:22:11,600 --> 01:22:14,900
surprised either, you know, it's
kind of like oh the traffic is

1311
01:22:14,900 --> 01:22:16,800
here.
Oh okay, let me get this.

1312
01:22:16,800 --> 01:22:20,200
Let me start fighting because
it's like he fell into that real

1313
01:22:20,200 --> 01:22:23,900
quick.
He didn't have time to Blink.

1314
01:22:23,900 --> 01:22:25,600
He didn't have time to think
about it.

1315
01:22:25,700 --> 01:22:28,800
He didn't is like he
automatically went into battle

1316
01:22:28,800 --> 01:22:31,500
mode.
Like this is something he's used

1317
01:22:31,500 --> 01:22:35,300
to, you know, because obviously
we've seen this in another

1318
01:22:35,300 --> 01:22:37,500
character and somebody else we
watch.

1319
01:22:37,700 --> 01:22:41,800
But in the wisdom that he was
thinking something was going to

1320
01:22:41,800 --> 01:22:45,300
happen or respecting, it was
eventually it's just he's been

1321
01:22:45,300 --> 01:22:51,400
trained in such a way that he
can turn it on and stuff and

1322
01:22:51,400 --> 01:22:53,800
it's not this what he was
expecting trucks to come.

1323
01:22:54,000 --> 01:22:56,500
It's just that oh, there's a
trolley, I don't know what to

1324
01:22:56,500 --> 01:22:57,700
do.
Right?

1325
01:22:57,700 --> 01:23:01,700
Yeah me it was more that muscle
memory that that sort of thing

1326
01:23:01,700 --> 01:23:07,700
where he just pulls it to call
mode and and he turns it on, Oh

1327
01:23:08,000 --> 01:23:11,500
yeah.
It's kind of like again, if he

1328
01:23:11,500 --> 01:23:16,500
is used to fighting or if he has
been used to fighting, once that

1329
01:23:16,500 --> 01:23:20,000
danger comes in or once that,
you know, whatever that conflict

1330
01:23:20,000 --> 01:23:23,300
is, is almost like he was able
to spring into action without

1331
01:23:23,300 --> 01:23:25,600
thinking about it.
Whereas somebody else like a

1332
01:23:25,600 --> 01:23:30,100
parent or a Rand, or Matt or
someone like that.

1333
01:23:30,700 --> 01:23:34,500
When they first started getting
attacked like big Wayne was

1334
01:23:34,500 --> 01:23:37,700
dancing with someone.
And what happened was, why We

1335
01:23:37,708 --> 01:23:41,500
were dancing.
He just all of a sudden because

1336
01:23:41,500 --> 01:23:46,100
he had a spear that was thrown
into his chest from behind and

1337
01:23:46,100 --> 01:23:50,300
she's sitting there looking at
this Spear and it's almost like

1338
01:23:50,300 --> 01:23:53,400
it wasn't comprehend.
Like she wasn't comprehending

1339
01:23:53,600 --> 01:23:57,300
that the person in front of her
head literally just been killed

1340
01:23:57,300 --> 01:24:00,700
by the spear that's poking out
of his chest and it took it took

1341
01:24:00,700 --> 01:24:03,900
a minute for her mind to catch
up with what was going on.

1342
01:24:03,900 --> 01:24:06,500
Because by this point, Charlie
looks are coming from

1343
01:24:06,500 --> 01:24:08,400
everywhere.
People are Screaming before she

1344
01:24:08,400 --> 01:24:12,300
realized, oh, shit were being
attacked and Tam, didn't have

1345
01:24:12,300 --> 01:24:14,800
any of that, kind of reaction,
any of that kind of shock is

1346
01:24:14,800 --> 01:24:16,500
like chalak.
Oh, okay.

1347
01:24:16,500 --> 01:24:19,800
Let me start with his mask, and
that's what he starts doing.

1348
01:24:19,800 --> 01:24:23,200
So I thought that was
interesting as well, because I

1349
01:24:23,200 --> 01:24:27,300
was like, yeah, there's a story
there, there's a story with him,

1350
01:24:27,300 --> 01:24:31,600
you know.
But the other thing that we see

1351
01:24:31,600 --> 01:24:37,700
in this episode during this
trial like battle, and that I

1352
01:24:37,700 --> 01:24:42,100
will say.
Moran, of course, is fighting,

1353
01:24:42,200 --> 01:24:45,000
you know, and she's fighting.
She's using the one power to

1354
01:24:45,000 --> 01:24:46,700
fight.
These trolleys, she's bringing

1355
01:24:46,700 --> 01:24:48,900
down houses.
She's throwing bricks out of the

1356
01:24:48,907 --> 01:24:54,000
walls and she gets stabbed with
one of the Spears and land takes

1357
01:24:54,000 --> 01:24:56,100
it out and she continues to
fight.

1358
01:24:56,200 --> 01:24:59,800
But what happens is when Rand
brings his father to the Village

1359
01:25:00,100 --> 01:25:03,700
to be healed.
She's able to heal the father

1360
01:25:04,800 --> 01:25:07,800
But she still hurt and this is
something we learned later on.

1361
01:25:08,500 --> 01:25:10,300
I think a couple of episodes
from now.

1362
01:25:12,000 --> 01:25:15,300
I said I can't heal themselves.
They can heal other people but

1363
01:25:15,300 --> 01:25:19,600
they can't heal themselves.
And it was it's weird too

1364
01:25:19,600 --> 01:25:23,200
because thinking about what we
just discussed about town.

1365
01:25:23,700 --> 01:25:25,800
He was kind of sort of out of
it.

1366
01:25:25,800 --> 01:25:28,700
When ran brought him to the
village and as soon as Moraine

1367
01:25:28,700 --> 01:25:34,200
healed him and he opened his
eyes, he looked at her and then

1368
01:25:34,200 --> 01:25:39,100
the camera pans to ran, like
he's making this connection and

1369
01:25:39,100 --> 01:25:43,900
that's why I felt like, okay, he
knows something else about

1370
01:25:43,900 --> 01:25:50,400
whatever this is because he's
just looking at Moraine Almost

1371
01:25:50,400 --> 01:25:54,700
like, oh, is that time?
And I was like, what does he

1372
01:25:54,700 --> 01:25:56,700
know?
And I know you can't say

1373
01:25:56,700 --> 01:25:59,300
anything if he knows anything,
but it was just one of those

1374
01:25:59,300 --> 01:26:02,100
things.
The camera work here really

1375
01:26:02,400 --> 01:26:05,900
gives you something to think
about the way that they kind of

1376
01:26:05,900 --> 01:26:08,300
pan onto the characters at
certain moments.

1377
01:26:08,700 --> 01:26:11,800
It's like, if you weren't
thinking about it, it could be

1378
01:26:11,800 --> 01:26:15,300
just random but like
specifically, especially with

1379
01:26:15,300 --> 01:26:20,000
him.
The sigil on the hilt, the very

1380
01:26:20,000 --> 01:26:21,600
pointed way.
He's looking at Moran.

1381
01:26:21,600 --> 01:26:23,500
I was like, and then he looks at
his son.

1382
01:26:23,500 --> 01:26:26,600
I'm like, yeah, he knows
something.

1383
01:26:27,800 --> 01:26:31,200
He knows something, because when
she starts talking to them

1384
01:26:31,500 --> 01:26:35,900
saying that, you know, the dark,
the dark one is coming and only

1385
01:26:35,900 --> 01:26:39,400
one of you will be able to stand
against him and she's talking to

1386
01:26:39,400 --> 01:26:41,400
all of them.
And she's telling them, they

1387
01:26:41,400 --> 01:26:46,000
have to leave.
It's almost like you don't, you

1388
01:26:46,000 --> 01:26:48,700
don't get the reactions of the
parents, but it's like the fact

1389
01:26:48,700 --> 01:26:53,400
that all of, you know, those for
they get up and they leave so

1390
01:26:53,400 --> 01:26:55,800
that they can save this Village
again.

1391
01:26:55,800 --> 01:27:00,300
I felt I felt like Raz.
Father, knew something about

1392
01:27:00,300 --> 01:27:07,200
what was going on, so, It's
going to be interesting though,

1393
01:27:07,400 --> 01:27:11,600
because you have these four
kids, like she says, you've

1394
01:27:11,600 --> 01:27:14,900
lived in these mountains for too
long pretending that the lives.

1395
01:27:14,900 --> 01:27:18,200
You know, pretending that what
happens outside in the world

1396
01:27:18,300 --> 01:27:23,300
doesn't affect you squeeze mom.
His mom says, as much early

1397
01:27:23,400 --> 01:27:29,700
earlier, she's like, Wars are
fought by fools with fools over

1398
01:27:29,700 --> 01:27:33,800
foolish things, and Wars
happening all the time and we

1399
01:27:33,800 --> 01:27:35,200
don't, we don't worry about that
stuff.

1400
01:27:36,500 --> 01:27:38,800
Ya know that we can't have this
now?

1401
01:27:39,100 --> 01:27:41,500
Yes.
Like, they're very sheltered

1402
01:27:41,600 --> 01:27:45,000
like this corner of the world is
their only Corner because none

1403
01:27:45,000 --> 01:27:48,000
of them even knew what a try
like was, you know, like I said,

1404
01:27:48,000 --> 01:27:51,200
Tam obviously knew because he
knew how to fight them and he,

1405
01:27:51,500 --> 01:27:55,500
he handled himself very well.
I think, if he wasn't worried

1406
01:27:55,500 --> 01:27:58,200
about ran, he probably could
have killed that trollop with no

1407
01:27:58,200 --> 01:28:02,400
problem, but you've got looks
and of Tropics.

1408
01:28:02,400 --> 01:28:05,200
They've never seen them be
there.

1409
01:28:05,300 --> 01:28:07,200
Their myths.
You know, they're these

1410
01:28:07,200 --> 01:28:09,400
preachers that they use the
scared of the kids.

1411
01:28:09,800 --> 01:28:13,100
It would kind of be like if a
dragon showed up all of a sudden

1412
01:28:13,100 --> 01:28:16,600
for us, we be like, wait, those
really exist?

1413
01:28:16,600 --> 01:28:22,000
Yeah.
So but yeah, I really enjoyed

1414
01:28:22,000 --> 01:28:25,900
this first episode like really
enjoyed it.

1415
01:28:25,900 --> 01:28:29,700
I wasn't too sure about it
because again I didn't know much

1416
01:28:29,700 --> 01:28:32,500
about I just knew the the book
series was popular.

1417
01:28:33,000 --> 01:28:35,000
I know a lot of people read
them.

1418
01:28:35,000 --> 01:28:38,100
Like I said, one of my old
mentors has been trying to get

1419
01:28:38,100 --> 01:28:41,400
me to read it for years and
again, just there, there's so

1420
01:28:41,400 --> 01:28:45,500
much out there like it's on my
tubing to be red, fox file, you

1421
01:28:45,500 --> 01:28:47,500
know, it's in that stack of
books.

1422
01:28:47,900 --> 01:28:53,300
Let us book hoarders always have
and I just hadn't gotten around

1423
01:28:53,300 --> 01:28:54,500
to it.
So then, when I heard that they

1424
01:28:54,500 --> 01:28:57,200
were doing the show was like,
okay, well I probably watched

1425
01:28:57,200 --> 01:29:00,700
the show first because as book
readers, we know whenever they

1426
01:29:00,700 --> 01:29:05,100
adapt something from a book
series is never the way we read

1427
01:29:05,100 --> 01:29:09,100
it.
And I felt like I didn't want to

1428
01:29:09,400 --> 01:29:12,900
go into the show and be one of
those people.

1429
01:29:13,000 --> 01:29:15,400
Oh, that's not how it happened
in the book, and that's not how

1430
01:29:15,400 --> 01:29:17,800
it was like in the books.
I was like, okay, I'm just I'm

1431
01:29:17,808 --> 01:29:19,500
going to leave the books alone
for now.

1432
01:29:19,500 --> 01:29:22,800
Let me see how this first season
is that, how they do it and then

1433
01:29:22,800 --> 01:29:27,300
I may go in and read the books.
But my question for you, Anthony

1434
01:29:27,700 --> 01:29:32,700
so far, how does it rate as an
adaptation?

1435
01:29:32,700 --> 01:29:34,700
Like, are they sticking close to
the books?

1436
01:29:34,700 --> 01:29:37,500
With what you, what you know, so
far?

1437
01:29:37,500 --> 01:29:40,600
Like how far I have you have you
watched all five episodes so

1438
01:29:40,600 --> 01:29:42,100
far?
Yes, okay.

1439
01:29:42,200 --> 01:29:45,300
So how does it right to you,
without spoiling anything?

1440
01:29:45,300 --> 01:29:47,700
How does it rank as an
adaptation for you?

1441
01:29:48,200 --> 01:29:53,000
I think they've okay as a person
who really really likes books

1442
01:29:53,500 --> 01:29:55,700
and and those are great deal
about it.

1443
01:29:55,900 --> 01:30:00,800
I will save it was some things
that I kind of questioned like

1444
01:30:00,800 --> 01:30:02,400
the decisions.
Hmm.

1445
01:30:02,800 --> 01:30:07,400
But if I'm being perfectly
honest, if you're watching it

1446
01:30:07,400 --> 01:30:11,300
and not having ever read the
books, I can see how people

1447
01:30:11,300 --> 01:30:14,900
should actually enjoy it.
I mean, I don't really find

1448
01:30:14,900 --> 01:30:17,600
anything wrong with it as an
adaptation, the thing.

1449
01:30:17,800 --> 01:30:20,600
Is the books.
What happens in the books is

1450
01:30:20,600 --> 01:30:26,000
very hard to adapt and they've
tried before and it has never

1451
01:30:26,000 --> 01:30:28,500
worked out, okay?
Because it's really difficult to

1452
01:30:28,500 --> 01:30:32,100
do parent is the most difficult
thing.

1453
01:30:32,100 --> 01:30:36,300
You have to deal with because
he's such a major character but

1454
01:30:36,300 --> 01:30:40,300
you really can't adapt his
storyline to a TV show.

1455
01:30:40,300 --> 01:30:43,400
It would it would basically have
to be a TV show just about him

1456
01:30:43,800 --> 01:30:46,700
in order for you to understand.
Wow, what happens.

1457
01:30:47,400 --> 01:30:52,800
Okay.
I think it's really good at it

1458
01:30:52,800 --> 01:30:54,100
as a patient.
Okay.

1459
01:30:55,100 --> 01:30:58,700
I know why the book readers have
issues with it and I think a lot

1460
01:30:58,700 --> 01:31:03,900
of it is veiled racism to be
honest with you because all I

1461
01:31:03,900 --> 01:31:08,700
hear most of the time is 0.
They don't look like how I

1462
01:31:08,700 --> 01:31:10,700
thought they were little girls.
I think this person could have

1463
01:31:10,700 --> 01:31:14,300
played them and they do these
lists of, this is how I should

1464
01:31:14,300 --> 01:31:16,200
have.
I would have cast it and it's

1465
01:31:16,500 --> 01:31:17,600
ya.
Bunch of white people.

1466
01:31:17,700 --> 01:31:18,400
You.
Okay?

1467
01:31:19,100 --> 01:31:22,400
And that's that.
Yeah, imagine that.

1468
01:31:22,400 --> 01:31:27,200
So, as far as I understand why
they make some of the decisions

1469
01:31:27,200 --> 01:31:30,100
they made parent, having a wife
and killing her.

1470
01:31:30,500 --> 01:31:33,600
That helps explain his character
down the line, okay?

1471
01:31:33,600 --> 01:31:35,700
It's going to be very important
for him.

1472
01:31:35,900 --> 01:31:40,300
Okay.
Aging them up and having a

1473
01:31:40,300 --> 01:31:44,600
sexual relationship between ran
in.

1474
01:31:44,600 --> 01:31:47,400
The gwaine is going to be
important that a lot.

1475
01:31:47,400 --> 01:31:50,700
Okay.
Okay, because there's some

1476
01:31:50,700 --> 01:31:55,300
things that that have to happen
for the, two of them to get

1477
01:31:55,300 --> 01:31:59,600
where they need to be okay and
it would make it so much easier

1478
01:31:59,600 --> 01:32:04,700
to understand the relationship.
And how other people are not

1479
01:32:04,700 --> 01:32:07,600
going to understand their
relationship, but we will

1480
01:32:07,600 --> 01:32:10,000
understand their relationship.
Okay?

1481
01:32:10,500 --> 01:32:12,200
Okay.
Okay.

1482
01:32:13,400 --> 01:32:16,900
The other thing that I want to
talk about, and this doesn't

1483
01:32:16,900 --> 01:32:24,200
have to do with the actual show.
Per se, is that intro Intro with

1484
01:32:24,200 --> 01:32:29,000
the weaving of the threads and
the drawing of the isid.

1485
01:32:29,000 --> 01:32:32,800
I've the, what do you calling
the IG has thousands.

1486
01:32:33,300 --> 01:32:35,400
Oh my God.
That is it.

1487
01:32:35,900 --> 01:32:40,600
It's very Captivate.
It's kind of like I think I felt

1488
01:32:40,600 --> 01:32:45,600
watching this intro, the same
way I did watching the

1489
01:32:45,600 --> 01:32:47,900
west-world intro for the first
time.

1490
01:32:48,300 --> 01:32:52,000
It was just so beautiful and I
just sat there.

1491
01:32:52,100 --> 01:32:55,600
Like it took me a minute to
realize that they were actually

1492
01:32:55,600 --> 01:32:59,300
weaving.
It was just the way the colors

1493
01:32:59,300 --> 01:33:03,800
and the way that they drew the
women and how it, the tapestry

1494
01:33:03,900 --> 01:33:07,400
it was just really beautiful.
And I was just like sitting

1495
01:33:07,400 --> 01:33:11,000
there watching this like mouth
open like, oh my God, this is

1496
01:33:11,000 --> 01:33:13,800
one of the prettiest things I've
ever seen in the intro.

1497
01:33:15,300 --> 01:33:17,700
It was gorgeous.
But, yeah, that's all I want to

1498
01:33:17,708 --> 01:33:20,400
say about it was.
It's a, it's a very, it's a,

1499
01:33:20,400 --> 01:33:24,300
very beautifully, created intro.
And not only that.

1500
01:33:25,800 --> 01:33:30,700
I like the look of the show, you
know, for it being for it being

1501
01:33:30,700 --> 01:33:33,900
fantasy, it's a little bit, it's
a little bit darker.

1502
01:33:35,000 --> 01:33:37,600
Towards the beginning than I
expected.

1503
01:33:39,500 --> 01:33:42,500
Now, it is darker than than the
books.

1504
01:33:42,700 --> 01:33:45,300
The books are.
Okay, not just start.

1505
01:33:45,600 --> 01:33:47,100
Okay, there's a lot.
There's a lot of

1506
01:33:47,100 --> 01:33:51,700
lightheartedness in the books.
Okay, isn't it right?

1507
01:33:52,800 --> 01:33:55,900
Glory.
The books.

1508
01:33:56,000 --> 01:33:59,700
Okay, when I first started
listening to the audiobook, I

1509
01:33:59,700 --> 01:34:01,800
immediately stopped it looked at
it.

1510
01:34:01,800 --> 01:34:04,800
I was like, oh my God, who made
Dungeons and Dragons and put it

1511
01:34:04,800 --> 01:34:07,100
into a book form.
I mean, you know, from the old

1512
01:34:07,100 --> 01:34:09,800
cartoon series, that's how it
sounds on audio.

1513
01:34:10,100 --> 01:34:12,800
It's like hello, villager, how
are you today?

1514
01:34:12,900 --> 01:34:16,100
Oh, we must not upset Farmers
so-and-so because we're going to

1515
01:34:16,100 --> 01:34:18,200
the festival today.
I mean that's literally the kind

1516
01:34:18,200 --> 01:34:20,300
of out.
Yeah, it's very light-hearted.

1517
01:34:20,600 --> 01:34:22,500
Okay.
Well, that veerle heart.

1518
01:34:22,500 --> 01:34:26,100
It has a lot of lightheartedness
in it and You don't really get

1519
01:34:26,100 --> 01:34:31,800
that if this show right, right,
it's very dark and I see that

1520
01:34:31,800 --> 01:34:36,600
they've gone to Game of Thrones
dark with this like may be gone

1521
01:34:37,100 --> 01:34:40,800
more mature, you know, more
graphic, right?

1522
01:34:42,800 --> 01:34:46,300
This darker and we'll see if
this pays off.

1523
01:34:46,300 --> 01:34:50,800
I think, I think is going to
help get that audience.

1524
01:34:50,800 --> 01:34:54,100
The the people who still want
more Game of Thrones, okay?

1525
01:34:54,100 --> 01:34:57,000
It's going to get the audience
and they're just going to say to

1526
01:34:57,000 --> 01:35:00,900
hell with the book readers.
We don't really just forget you

1527
01:35:00,900 --> 01:35:04,700
guys y'all go, right?
I mean, the showrunner claims to

1528
01:35:04,700 --> 01:35:09,000
be a big fan of the books and a
lot of this he's trying to do

1529
01:35:09,300 --> 01:35:12,200
some justice to we and to try to
keep the spirit.

1530
01:35:12,300 --> 01:35:15,400
Irit.
Okay, but novels, and and try to

1531
01:35:15,400 --> 01:35:21,700
help explain a lot of things.
We'll talk later about this last

1532
01:35:21,700 --> 01:35:26,200
episode because there is a scene
at the end where people like

1533
01:35:26,500 --> 01:35:28,400
that character would never do
that.

1534
01:35:28,600 --> 01:35:33,300
Well, I can make argument that,
he would.

1535
01:35:33,500 --> 01:35:35,300
Okay, know what I know about him
in the books.

1536
01:35:35,400 --> 01:35:37,800
Yeah, we had talked about.
Yeah, we're going to have to

1537
01:35:37,800 --> 01:35:40,300
hurry up and catch up.
Okay.

1538
01:35:41,000 --> 01:35:44,000
Yeah, let's not go.
There we have any final thoughts

1539
01:35:44,000 --> 01:35:46,900
on this first episode in the my
kids they have, I will hear Mike

1540
01:35:46,900 --> 01:35:48,500
ever say he didn't say the whole
lot.

1541
01:35:49,800 --> 01:35:54,600
I'm I look this is this this is
basically how I was in discovery

1542
01:35:54,600 --> 01:35:56,600
of witches.
It's like, I'm basically

1543
01:35:56,600 --> 01:35:58,800
listening to you guys and
catching up on my own.

1544
01:35:58,900 --> 01:36:01,700
So this is like I really like
this.

1545
01:36:02,000 --> 01:36:07,500
Shout out to to egg wins.
Mom, like roughly shoving her

1546
01:36:07,500 --> 01:36:09,500
off the cliff, instead of like
Wayne.

1547
01:36:09,500 --> 01:36:12,300
You know, just like it.
Going big waves, mom.

1548
01:36:12,300 --> 01:36:14,900
Just going like, yeah.
And like eating her off the

1549
01:36:14,900 --> 01:36:18,300
cliff.
I was like yo, damn, like it was

1550
01:36:18,300 --> 01:36:21,200
really a But I knew I was like
well there's really no other

1551
01:36:21,200 --> 01:36:21,900
way.
She could do it.

1552
01:36:21,900 --> 01:36:25,000
Like she kind of has to get in
the water so it's like, but I

1553
01:36:25,000 --> 01:36:27,900
mean, she'd learn deleted that
you did life and limb out of

1554
01:36:27,900 --> 01:36:31,100
her.
Also shout-out to all the

1555
01:36:31,500 --> 01:36:34,200
insurance adjusters who are
going to have going to be like,

1556
01:36:34,200 --> 01:36:37,500
what the hell happened to this
building after after what's her

1557
01:36:37,500 --> 01:36:40,300
name through every brick at all?
Those trollops.

1558
01:36:40,300 --> 01:36:45,800
I was like, I could, if I was
what's-their-names, if I was, if

1559
01:36:45,800 --> 01:36:48,700
I was her mom, I would have been
like, that's my Pub.

1560
01:36:48,900 --> 01:36:52,400
Like that's totally goes, don't
do something from the blacksmith

1561
01:36:52,400 --> 01:36:54,100
shop, like those something from
there.

1562
01:36:54,100 --> 01:36:57,700
I was just wondering how it was
like is everyone out of there

1563
01:36:57,700 --> 01:36:59,800
while she's throwing bricks from
the buildings.

1564
01:36:59,800 --> 01:37:03,500
Like is everyone out because you
know, some people ran into some

1565
01:37:03,500 --> 01:37:07,300
of the buildings for Shelter
From The Trolley so I was like

1566
01:37:07,300 --> 01:37:09,500
okay I hope she's not
accidentally killing people

1567
01:37:09,500 --> 01:37:10,900
while she's trying to save
people.

1568
01:37:12,000 --> 01:37:13,900
Right.
It's just yeah it's the which

1569
01:37:13,900 --> 01:37:16,800
makes it shows that she's a
typical superhero because she

1570
01:37:16,800 --> 01:37:20,600
saves the day and but she
creates all kinds of damage

1571
01:37:20,600 --> 01:37:23,800
around her so she's just like
Superman so good job.

1572
01:37:23,800 --> 01:37:27,500
They don't have a slush fund
cover all of that, right?

1573
01:37:28,400 --> 01:37:31,600
There's no Bruce Wayne to help
cover all that, maybe there's,

1574
01:37:31,800 --> 01:37:34,700
yeah, I really like this.
I meant to it.

1575
01:37:34,800 --> 01:37:38,700
I'm, I'm waiting, I can't wait
to see what comes up next

1576
01:37:39,100 --> 01:37:40,700
because I'm a little behind you
guys.

1577
01:37:40,700 --> 01:37:43,900
Once I But I'm really anxious to
kind of get caught up and see

1578
01:37:43,900 --> 01:37:46,000
what see what's going on with
get caught up because I'm going

1579
01:37:46,000 --> 01:37:52,700
to tell you episodes, 4 5, whoa,
whoa okay yeah, yeah, haven't

1580
01:37:52,700 --> 01:37:57,000
seen five yet, I've seen for but
I'm excited to see it.

1581
01:37:57,200 --> 01:38:01,000
He's good.
And how many episodes is this

1582
01:38:01,000 --> 01:38:03,000
show?
Is this a 10 episode Arc?

1583
01:38:03,700 --> 01:38:07,400
Um, that's a good question.
I think is hate, okay?

1584
01:38:07,400 --> 01:38:10,400
It's going to be 8.
Okay, because this is a an

1585
01:38:10,400 --> 01:38:13,400
Amazon Serious.
Either your tan.

1586
01:38:13,500 --> 01:38:15,500
Okay.
Okay, I'm not sure.

1587
01:38:17,300 --> 01:38:21,400
The only thing I will say I'm
going to be fair because I did

1588
01:38:21,400 --> 01:38:26,900
this with Shadow and Bone.
Sometimes vocabulary languages

1589
01:38:26,900 --> 01:38:33,300
words can be a little
off-putting and I know what the

1590
01:38:33,300 --> 01:38:36,100
words mean and I know what their
significance is.

1591
01:38:36,200 --> 01:38:40,600
For example, to viren.
She says oh we're going to go to

1592
01:38:40,600 --> 01:38:43,100
the two rivers.
Because there are 42 viren there

1593
01:38:43,900 --> 01:38:49,100
ain't one of them might be the
dragon reborn so we never hear

1594
01:38:49,100 --> 01:38:51,800
about to veering again.
We never hear that term again.

1595
01:38:51,800 --> 01:38:57,000
So they're five, right?
Because nine Eve would be but

1596
01:38:57,000 --> 01:39:00,900
she's not to viren.
The then she goes, you copy.

1597
01:39:01,500 --> 01:39:05,400
We can't talk about that yet
because they don't talk, we

1598
01:39:05,400 --> 01:39:09,600
don't find that out until we
know, well, that wasn't this

1599
01:39:09,600 --> 01:39:12,100
episode.
When Marine went to talk to her

1600
01:39:12,100 --> 01:39:15,000
when she was watching, the
stones tiny was watching the

1601
01:39:15,000 --> 01:39:16,400
thing.
And she was trying to figure out

1602
01:39:16,400 --> 01:39:18,000
how old she was.
Hmm.

1603
01:39:18,700 --> 01:39:26,400
Because right now the mat parent
ran and he going all 29, Eve is

1604
01:39:26,400 --> 01:39:33,100
25. 20 decide the guy in the
beginning that there is sister's

1605
01:39:33,100 --> 01:39:36,100
car.
Okay, he was too old so they

1606
01:39:36,100 --> 01:39:38,300
know it's not her.
That's why she was focusing on

1607
01:39:38,300 --> 01:39:42,200
the 42 viren but they don't
explain where to Varanasi, okay?

1608
01:39:42,500 --> 01:39:45,100
And five episodes in may still
having.

1609
01:39:45,300 --> 01:39:47,600
So, why even use the term in the
beginning?

1610
01:39:47,700 --> 01:39:51,200
Anyway, To appease your book
fans.

1611
01:39:53,000 --> 01:39:56,200
And I know the whole purpose of
the nine Eve.

1612
01:39:56,300 --> 01:40:00,100
The Nanny scene is because
Moraine didn't have any

1613
01:40:00,100 --> 01:40:04,500
information on her.
So when she got there and she

1614
01:40:04,500 --> 01:40:07,100
saw, oh, this young lady's of
wisdom.

1615
01:40:07,200 --> 01:40:10,500
I wonder how old she is, that's
why she was poking her.

1616
01:40:10,800 --> 01:40:13,200
That's what blew sisters do.
She started poking her for

1617
01:40:13,200 --> 01:40:15,700
information so you got your
breeches.

1618
01:40:15,700 --> 01:40:17,900
I gamma ray five years.
Oh so you're 25.

1619
01:40:18,500 --> 01:40:21,200
So Yeah, so I know she knew how
she was.

1620
01:40:21,300 --> 01:40:27,200
Okay, now I'm looking online in
the background so apparently

1621
01:40:27,200 --> 01:40:30,900
they have already been renewed
for season 2.

1622
01:40:31,600 --> 01:40:33,800
Yes.
Okay, they're Nine episodes in

1623
01:40:33,800 --> 01:40:35,500
this series in this room is
mine.

1624
01:40:35,600 --> 01:40:40,000
Okay, okay.
Okay, my thing is as far as

1625
01:40:40,000 --> 01:40:43,800
reading the book series as
compared to the book TV series,

1626
01:40:44,200 --> 01:40:48,300
I actually went to buy the first
book a few weeks ago and I found

1627
01:40:48,300 --> 01:40:52,200
out that they're my audible in
my obsessive book line that I

1628
01:40:52,200 --> 01:40:54,500
actually had the first four
books of the series.

1629
01:40:54,800 --> 01:40:56,400
I don't remember my no, but I
got it.

1630
01:40:56,700 --> 01:40:58,700
My thing is, that's, that's how
I am.

1631
01:40:58,800 --> 01:41:01,200
I'll find whole series going on.
Why did I had that?

1632
01:41:01,900 --> 01:41:06,900
But the thing is that, in my
defense, in the early, Early

1633
01:41:06,900 --> 01:41:10,000
90s.
I was one of those rabid

1634
01:41:10,100 --> 01:41:12,400
feminists.
Science fiction fantasy writers,

1635
01:41:12,400 --> 01:41:15,300
where I refuse to read anything
written by men.

1636
01:41:15,300 --> 01:41:18,800
It was all Mercedes lack
LeAndre, Norton, you know, all

1637
01:41:18,800 --> 01:41:20,000
of that.
Right?

1638
01:41:20,100 --> 01:41:25,700
So I wouldn't read any male
writers for a good 15 years, so

1639
01:41:26,100 --> 01:41:28,100
I didn't read not read on
purpose.

1640
01:41:28,400 --> 01:41:30,800
I just didn't read it because it
wasn't what I was wanting to

1641
01:41:30,800 --> 01:41:34,600
read at the time, but I am
kicking myself because just like

1642
01:41:34,600 --> 01:41:37,600
Game of Thrones, I wish I would
have Read these when they came

1643
01:41:37,600 --> 01:41:40,400
out because I think it will that
be a little bit more obsessive

1644
01:41:41,100 --> 01:41:44,200
than I that I have.
No, I mean, I'm getting into it

1645
01:41:44,200 --> 01:41:46,100
and everyone knows.
We're not kidding ourselves.

1646
01:41:46,300 --> 01:41:49,700
You guys both know that, by the
end of Say J, where I've read,

1647
01:41:49,800 --> 01:41:53,600
I'll read all the books.
So, you know, but my thing is,

1648
01:41:53,600 --> 01:41:59,000
is that I did myself a discern,
but I really like the series is

1649
01:41:59,000 --> 01:42:03,000
just, my only nitpick is that,
like, most great series.

1650
01:42:03,300 --> 01:42:06,300
You gotta, like, Mazatl��n and
all that this for you.

1651
01:42:06,600 --> 01:42:10,000
Got to really go through the
really slow B to get to the good

1652
01:42:10,000 --> 01:42:11,900
part.
So that's what I'm hating right

1653
01:42:11,900 --> 01:42:15,600
now.
Okay, I do want to make this

1654
01:42:15,600 --> 01:42:19,000
note before we close out.
So I'm looking at some of the

1655
01:42:19,000 --> 01:42:21,900
cast that they have added for
season 2.

1656
01:42:22,400 --> 01:42:25,300
You know, exactly what I'm about
to say, don't you answer me.

1657
01:42:25,700 --> 01:42:28,700
So, our boy Dominico from a
discovery which is going to be

1658
01:42:28,700 --> 01:42:37,700
in season 2 of this show.
Whoo, I saw that I was like I

1659
01:42:37,700 --> 01:42:40,400
just got here in like that,
love, like, because the photo

1660
01:42:40,400 --> 01:42:42,800
that they have on this article
that I'm looking at in

1661
01:42:42,800 --> 01:42:45,500
background, looking at the
deadline article, he doesn't

1662
01:42:45,500 --> 01:42:48,200
look as tan as he does, in the
discovery of witches, cousin,

1663
01:42:48,200 --> 01:42:51,100
discovery of witches.
He's a little bit.

1664
01:42:51,300 --> 01:42:54,300
His skin tone is a little bit
darker like he's been sitting in

1665
01:42:54,300 --> 01:42:59,100
the sun forever in this picture.
He's a little bit more pale.

1666
01:42:59,100 --> 01:43:03,100
So I was looking at him.
I like I was like Domenico so I

1667
01:43:03,100 --> 01:43:06,400
look them up and I'm like, yep.
Because I never knew the actors.

1668
01:43:06,600 --> 01:43:08,100
Name.
And I'm not even going to try to

1669
01:43:08,100 --> 01:43:12,500
butcher his his last name
because it's, it's quite long.

1670
01:43:12,500 --> 01:43:14,800
But yeah.
So he's going to be in the show.

1671
01:43:14,800 --> 01:43:18,100
So I'm like, yay.
I get to look at his face for at

1672
01:43:18,100 --> 01:43:21,700
least another year.
So that's awesome.

1673
01:43:22,100 --> 01:43:28,200
But any final thoughts on
episode 1 of will of time.

1674
01:43:29,100 --> 01:43:33,500
Shout out to the women Circle
who slaughtered at rollick with

1675
01:43:33,500 --> 01:43:37,700
pitchforks then the battle I
thought It was awesome.

1676
01:43:38,100 --> 01:43:44,200
So on you but the strength and
resolve of the three, women

1677
01:43:44,200 --> 01:43:48,200
really do get this done.
Yes, they really do.

1678
01:43:48,200 --> 01:43:50,800
And on that note, that's it for
our show.

1679
01:43:51,000 --> 01:43:54,900
You can find us online at
www.haddadhyundai.com, we are on

1680
01:43:54,900 --> 01:43:57,500
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1681
01:43:57,500 --> 01:44:00,500
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1682
01:44:00,500 --> 01:44:02,600
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platforms.

1683
01:44:02,800 --> 01:44:05,000
Thanks for listening, we hope
you join the conversation next

1684
01:44:05,000 --> 01:44:05,400
time.