Arthurian Legends Series: Cursed - Fandom Hybrid Podcast #210

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Was a pirate.
Welcome back to another episode

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of The Phantom hybrid podcast.
This is how I co and I am here

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with Anthony, Mike and Lori and
we are doing something a little

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bit different.
Today, we have talked for like

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the last several months about
wanting to talk about Arthurian

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Legends just because a lot of
the shows that we watch, have

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you the referenced it or it's
based off an Arthurian Legend.

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And you know we just kind of
kicked around the idea of hey

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what are we just like take one
show or one film a month for

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this year and just talk about
different Arthurian Legends and

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how they relate to each other or
do you know which ones we like?

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Which ones we didn't like and
yeah, that was an idea that we

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actually decided to stick with.
So this is the first of our

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Arthurian Legend series and we
are going to talk about a show

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that is near and dear to our
heart where We like to show or

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not and that is cursed, cursed
was a show that premiered on

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Netflix back in 2020, it only
ran for one season but it was

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one of the very first shows that
we covered when we started this

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podcast.
So we figure go back and take a

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look at curse and let's talk
about what we liked and what we

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didn't like.
And apparently it has not aged

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well for Anthony because Anthony
was Like I don't like it,

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although I think he was just
messing with Mike about it.

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So anyway, sister just a little
bit, just a little bit, really.

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Did you go back and re-watch it
or is it just as your remember,

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you just kind of like oh they
couldn't did this better?

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I didn't really like well, well
earlier today I started watching

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the first episode just to see
there's a oh God that's started

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skipping.
And I started going through a

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bunch of different episodes that
I started remembering.

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You know I know I know there's
some good things.

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There are more bad things for
me.

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Okay.
Yeah, the things that I didn't

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like kind of outweigh the things
got liked okay.

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Because you know we I don't
think we really went back and

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just talked about the whole
thing, you know, the whole

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series as a whole, maybe, as I
think it, I think at the time

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that we finished the series,
Ruiz we didn't know a like we

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didn't find out for a long time
that they weren't going to renew

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it for a second season.
I think it was like maybe six or

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seven months after the first
season concluded that or that we

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finish talking about it that we
found out that it wasn't being

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renewed.
So I think we probably were

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looking at it through maybe
rose-colored glasses because we

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were like, I mean, the way that
it ended we were like, okay?

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They set it up for a good second
season, Bob Lon Yeah, we never

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got it sub still man.
I'm still pissed about that,

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doggone it, that's ridiculous.
I promise it actually got mean I

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still love that show.
It's like I got a chance to kind

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of skim through the episodes.
I'm like, I still really like

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the show.
I still really hate for the

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Cardin is still really
interesting how they did King

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Arthur, like making him kind of
a theme / kind of Korean and I

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like how they did it Through The
Eyes of nim way.

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Instead of just doing it
through, Arthur, going through,

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whatever he's doing or going
through Merlin going through

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what he goes through his like a
this another way to look at it

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and that's what still really,
really interesting to me.

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And that's why I really liked
it.

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Well I liked the concert like
the concert bad light.

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Hmm the acting was was decent
but the writing kind of stuff.

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If the special effects I
realized we're just not great.

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Well, I think we kind of said
that when it aired to like the

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van started, taking everything
with arriving build some of the

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stuff like just skipping around
on my, they really did that and

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some of the geography didn't
work and I started paying

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attention to how they were
getting around and then as it

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was, The more and more I thought
about it.

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I just know really, you be a
really specific right now?

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Yeah, I need you to look at the
general picture.

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Okay.
I'm looking at the general

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picture of your future, you'll
be reading on.

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You be a real specific being
nitpicky about stuff.

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My rose-colored glasses have
cracks in them.

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I am I missing.
I'm halfway between the two of

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you on this because I went back
and I looked a little bit.

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I got it on now and it doesn't
hold up as well.

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If we hadn't watched out and
vote, okay?

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At the same time, I still love
the the world, the scenery, the

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idea of them away.
It's halfway for me, okay, I'm

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just glad that they didn't do it
the way that when I first looked

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at it, I was like, did they make
author a girl?

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I was like, oh God, please tell
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They didn't know.
I'm glad they didn't didn't go

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that route because I don't think
I think it just would have been

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It just, you would have been
kind of cheap story been

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entirely entirely different
story, and I just don't think it

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would have held that.
I just, I just don't think that

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would have been a been a good
idea.

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But that's like, I'm I really
like the way they did.

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Yeah.
So for those of you who have no

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idea what we're talking about
cursed is the story.

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It is based off of a young adult
literature book by the same name

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it.
It tells the story of King

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Arthur before he became King
Arthur, but it does it from a

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different perspective.
So author is actually a

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secondary character in this
story and the main character is

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named away.
Who I think in other Arthurian

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Legends, I think she's like,
What she's been Merlin's

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daughter?
She's been Merlin's lover and in

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different iterations.
And so we see the story from her

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point of view.
And she's also Faith which is a

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little bit different because I
don't think I don't remember too

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many other versions of any
author and legends that I've

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watched where they have that
magical element with the main

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characters except for Merlin,
you know, Merlin has always Been

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a magician and you know, a
varying degrees like in this one

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when we first meet him, he
doesn't even have his powers and

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you know, he has to go on this
little journey to get his powers

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back and all this other stuff.
But I think that was the one of

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the things that Drew me to the
story.

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Because like Mike said, when you
look at the promos and when you

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look at the promotional posters
and all of this, it does have a

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young woman as the center
character, and I thought I was

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like, okay, are they gonna do?
Gender be awesome.

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Like that would be to me, I feel
like that will be weird, it

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works and Other Stories but
about King Arthur I didn't think

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that will work and then to find
out that it was not actually

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about him.
Like like I said, he's actually

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a secondary character and even,
you know, there's a scene in one

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of the later episodes where
they're talking and you know, he

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basically says well what if I
meant To, like, hold you up?

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What if I meant to make you
great or something to that

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effect?
And I was like this, you know?

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But um yeah, so you getting them
away and she's the one that's

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willing this sort of power and
you have Merlin who is for all

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intents and purposes a drunk
when we first meet him and a

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smartass and which The most
iterations of Merlin but I don't

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know, it's just mostly recent,
he's he's a jerk.

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He's yeah, it is and he's a
jerk.

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He's very much, a smartass in is
my smartest person in the room.

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He knows everything.
Even when he's not, even when

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he's definitely, not the
smartest person in room, he acts

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like he's the smartest person in
the room and he somehow

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convinces, the smartest person
in the room that he's not

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smartest person in the room.
Yeah.

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But you know at the same time
for a lot of well maybe not a

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lot of the show but at least the
first like the second episode

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maybe third episode and kind of
sprinkling he is he is

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surrounded by some idiots, King
Uther being one of the shooters

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dumb if there's a product that
is everything as it is and I

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forgot all about that.
Until I started going back

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through my old show notes.
And I was like, I was telling I

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was telling Anthony and Laurie.
Before you got all my I said, I

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feel like we probably need
another week to go, to go back

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and re-watch stuff, because I'm
going through my notes and I'm

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like, there is so much that I
forgot about this show, that was

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fun.
Like, I remember how much we

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hated sister Iris, she was cause
she was a nun, who was very

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jealous and also I think I think
it was almost even how much we

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hate a sister Iris in front of
the card and like it was based.

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It was kind of it was almost
neck to neck.

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Yeah.
So you know in any of these

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types of stories you always have
the religious zealots who are

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trying to eradicate kill,
whatever a certain type of

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people and this show was no
different.

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We had father Cardin and the red
Paladin's who were a religious

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cleansing group, I guess is the
best way to put it.

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Mmm there.
Their mission was to eliminate

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the fame because the PHA wasn't
you know I don't know.

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And I'm natural.
They never they never really

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explained why not?
Really no I think I think in the

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first episode we kind of get the
gist because when we meet father

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Cardin he's sitting there with
one of the FAE and the PHA is

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divided into different Factions
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So you have like the moon phase
and you have the, the forest,

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just all these different types.
And he's sitting there talking

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to a little boy, he's talking
about how unnatural and how, you

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know, they're meant to cleanse
the Earth and blah, blah blah.

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He touches the little boy's hand
with the leaf, and the little

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boy starts to turn green because
that's kind of interesting, you

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know, which branch or which
tribe he's part of, and it was

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just from there.
Ron, like he made me hated that

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scene, oh my God, our Villages
and to kill fat and it was just

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one of those where you route to
hate someone and you root for

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someone to die and he was just
one of those characters that we

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just did.
He agree that we hate it.

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And the show this show, did it
show did a good job of

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establishing that he's not to be
like like from the instant we

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meet and we're like this.
Like the shows like this is for

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the card, you don't like him,
you will not like him.

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So just go ahead and get your
hate ready right now.

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I was like, fuck like it, like
right off the bat, just like he

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just sitting there with a little
boys talking and then he's like,

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yes.
And summer goes in and then some

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are young.
Then they snatched a boy of I'm

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like, oh God, like really
irritate the fuck up.

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Well, I think when I was editing
our will of Time episode 4, the

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first, I think it was the second
episode.

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We were talking about meeting
the character of valda.

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And we mentioned, we were like,
yeah, he's like the father

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Cardinal this show.
So we like really hate this

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character, but there were other
characters.

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Like, like we mentioned, And
sister, Iris.

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She was a nun.
Who was who was working in the

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sour raised in the same Convent
as Morgana in this show and she

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wants to be a disciple of the
red Paladin, so bad, but the rip

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paladins don't allow women, of
course, they don't.

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But I mean not that I'm mad
because of who they are, but

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she's one of those people where
she was so evil.

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She was like, okay, this is This
is, this is my calling.

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This is what I'm supposed to do
and she spends the majority of

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the show, going after them away.
She kills her, you know, she

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sets fire to the convent kills
her, her fellow sisters, and the

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Mother Superior and it He was
one of those characters were, we

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were like, she's so fucking
evil, but she was so young.

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That was the thing.
We were like, we almost feel

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bad.
Yeah.

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Because she's a young, she's a
young girl.

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Like she has to be maybe 1617
somewhere around that she was so

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freaking evil.
But You know, like I said it was

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the story is a coming-of-age
story for them away because, you

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know, she when she was a young
girl when she was around five

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years old, she was attacked by a
demon possessed bear and it left

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its mark on her and she was
basically shunned in her

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Village, you know?
They they bullied her, they

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called her people.
They said, did we?

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Was he confirmed?
It was a demon.

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Well demon, I think he was a
spirits.

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Well, that's what they called
it.

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And I mean the thing had red
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So let me appeal is this the
easiest way to, I think that's

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when they kind of called it but
it wasn't necessarily a bad

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thing.
Like It was it was just I forgot

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what they called it but they
were like it was trying to

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conceal.
It was trying to gather magic

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the hidden that their magical
source is here and you know it's

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like one of those things where
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she could have been chosen
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her for specific purpose.
It didn't.

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have a ceremony because the what
they call the Summoner of the

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village had passed on and they
were looking for the hidden to

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choose a new summer Summoner and
it chose Nimoy and them away is

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like, I don't want this, they
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They don't want me here.
They've never wanted me here,

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and she runs away.
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where she meets up with Arthur.
This is also where she kind of

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exposes herself for being fake
because she gets into a gambling

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match with somebody who is a
Cutthroat and she kind of uses

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her powers to win this gambling
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And when he realizes that she's
Fae, you know, of course, they

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call her wish they'd chase her
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She spends time at this point
running from the red paladins.

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Of course, the red Palin is not
going from Village to Village

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killing all of the PHA and
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So the red Paladin show up at
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course they attack and kill a
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They they kill her mother.
And you know while her mother is

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dying or before her mother's
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and Tasks her with returning to
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Merlin is amidst, most people.
And as we mentioned, he has lost

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his powers when we first meet
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powers and like 16 years.
So it's one of those things

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where she has to go on this
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And of course, as she's on the
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She finds out things about
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Merlin is actually her father
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the source of Merlin's Our.
But when he has the sword, he it

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kind of takes over him and to
the point where he starts doing,

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maybe not straight evil again.
I didn't get a chance to like

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really re-watch so you do know.
He was bad.

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He was abusive bad.
Bad person.

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Oh my give it no.
Yeah he killed like a see killed

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cities.
He was like a bad mother fucker

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like he was he Was damn near.
I mean, he was like, like, Omni

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powerful like thank you.
Was overpowered the way they

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showed how he how he destroyed
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As he like, he was just like I
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I remember that.
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Yes and it's like he's if you
are fan of Lord of the Rings

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it's almost like the sword was
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Yes he's like a discount Sauron
has a ring and all of a sudden

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he wants to dominate everybody.
Group, do families, and babies,

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and all this stuff.
You know, it almost in a way the

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sword starts to influence them
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In the same way, because we seem
like she starts having instances

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where she blacks out when she's
using the sword, and she gets

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very violent.
Usually in self-defense.

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Like the first time, we see her
use the sword, she is fighting

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off these huge.
Wolves that are trying to attack

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her.
And to the point where They

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start naming her or rather
father Cardon nicknames, heard

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the wolf blood, which because
they're like, okay, one woman

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did this know.
She had a powerful sword with

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her.
Then next time we see her use

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her power with the sword, which
we think she used the sword but

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you know it's when one of the
red Paladin's is attacking her.

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He's trying to choke her to
death and we see her start to

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use her hidden powers and it
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life.
Leaves showing up.

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Like Vines think, think the more
recent version of Carrie, where

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she has the black, the black
veins that show up when she uses

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her power, or when she starts,
the telekinesis them away is the

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same.
But when we see her again, after

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she blacks out, the sword has
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And I'm like, how does she do
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What she doesn't know either,
but the next time we see that

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red Paladin, he is in a tree.
Tree and the roots of the tree

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had been Twisted in him and you
know the people at the convent,

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have a very hard time getting
those routes out of him.

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So yeah and it was I thought it
was kind of interesting seeing

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You know, a lot of the times
when we see the stories of

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author, at least the ones that I
have seen, you know, Mike, I

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know you mentioned him earlier
in the episode where you said,

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you know he's been depicted like
in the beginning, when we meet

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him, he's a thief.
He's a Cutthroat.

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He's, he's been banished or I
won't say, but ya know, he was

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banished.
He was banished from his home by

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his uncle.
Who was the ruler, you know?

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Because he got into some fights,
he stole he did out this other

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stuff, but I think author has
always been kind of one of those

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characters that is I don't want
to say morally ambiguous

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ambiguous but he he's never been
a character that's just good.

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You know.
There, there are Shades of Grey

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to his character.
If you look at a lot of the

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tales like the Camelot series
that I love with Jamie Campbell

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Bower you know he has his nights
and his loyal servants and he

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falls in love with the betrothed
of one of Them you know, you see

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him going out and even though I
don't consider this evil, he

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goes out and search for this
Holy Grail and just kind of

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leaves his country to been for
themselves.

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It's kind of like he's always
had been this, this character

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that's kind of and I like the
fact that even though name away

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is not his character, they still
show kind of that conflict with

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her.
Whereas okay, she can be a good

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person.
But she also has his Darkness to

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her. and I just, I thought that
was fascinating because You see

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the different challenges?
She has in the show, as far as

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wanting to wanting to kind of
give up the sword wanting to

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kind of hide from the red
paladins, not wanting to, she

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doesn't want to become this
leader that, you know, she

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eventually becomes and it's just
one of those things where it's

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kind of like, okay, You asked
the question of whether her not

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wanting to serve even though
it's kind of her Destiny.

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What is that selfish or is it
something that she supposed to

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do?
Because for lack of better words

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with great power comes great
responsibility, you know.

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But I don't know Laura, you've
been a little quiet.

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What are you thinking about
cursed like what was I think we

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covered?
This show and 20/20.

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So it's been a little over two
years now, and I know you

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haven't had a chance, like, go
back and re-watch the show, but

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the little bits that you've
seen, What are you thinking?

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I'm looking at this and I forgot
about her best friend, you know

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the one that turns out him.
I love him.

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Turns out to be the bad girl and
I'm thinking okay I miss this

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because we were so excited not
for the season but for what we

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were going to get in the next
season.

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Mmm, this is the problem.
You have with Netflix because

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Netflix is sort of like their
pox all over again.

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They don't give shows enough
time to get an audience.

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And I think that if this would
have debuted a little bit later

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on in the pandemic, it might
have had a better chance to come

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back but it got cancelled early
on because this thing was so

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awesome.
But the same time yesterday was

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a lot of problems.
Yes, there was different things

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going on.
But all in all All if you want

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all the tropes to hit, you want
all the different types of our

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Theory and themes to hit.
This was pretty much perfect,

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but it doesn't hold up at the
same time because like I said,

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if we had never seen Shadow and
bone, this probably would have

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been my ish.
I can't I can't agree with that.

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It that it was almost perfect.
I just can't because You know,

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big, there's some things that
like Lancelot being fake and

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possibly get to the, yeah, we
go.

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Okay, you know, I don't know,
he's like, I keep thinking that

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we were going to probably find
out if the sort of power was it

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may be Excalibur.
Because of his connection to

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Merlin.
And we know that a is caliber is

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more or less connected to the
Lady of the Lake.

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So maybe she comes up with her
own swear, we'll we'll never

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know.
But, I mean, you got to remember

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the way that the way that the
show ended was Nim away falling

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into the river, even that far
you know to I'm late overweight

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because in most in some versions
of the King Arthur tail and then

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way raised Lancelot after his
father died.

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Hmm.
Now maybe this show was going to

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take a little different take on
it since father, Cardin with his

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father and he's dead.
So maybe now she's going to sort

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of, instead of being with
author.

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She's gonna be with Lancelot in
season 2.

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Maybe that was the plan with him
and Percival.

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That would have been weird
though.

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I mean, okay.
So but do you see what do you

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see?
I'm Goin with this.

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Like they've already perverted
the whole of thorium thing, you

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know it's like I say I actually
liked the concept, this is some

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things just a little strange
like what they did with the

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sword out going great Gawain and
the Green Knight green.

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I'm like, he's dead, but he's,
he's probably not dead.

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She really fight.
He's also think it's like how

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many Roundtable nights are going
to be Fae.

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And author is not like we'll see
you look at it like this.

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It's like that.
The maybe this is a way to

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explain in the lore.
How authors, how the Knights of

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the Round Table could defeat
everybody.

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We're like, well, okay, there
were Faith.

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So they had a natural Advantage.
So if I do it as one say I do,

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Amber us going to the it's they
liked the episode before last

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year like they, you were like,
they better not say that the

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Weeping night is is Landslide.
He's like, you were like they

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better not an hour.
I remember you saying that.

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I was like, oh shit.
I was like, they're probably

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gonna say that shit.
I see it down here.

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It's gonna be sad, really,
because I thought, but then it's

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like they bounce.
Because, like, they had the kind

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of cool revealed that squirrel
was Percival, where I was like,

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okay, I'm kind of go along.
With that.

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But then he then he, he said,
what's your name?

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I was like, oh shit.
Squirrel squirrel was one of our

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favorite characters and after
re-watching the first two

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episodes I still say he's one of
my favorite characters and he's

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one of the reasons why I was
pissed.

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The show did not come back
because yeah, smartass mouth to

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he did but he was so brave.
I mean, squirrel, probably was

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what maybe a 9 in the show and
you have use Noble.

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Yeah.
Yeah, you haven't been taken

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hostage by the Weeping monk, who
is basically?

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He is this mysterious character
who does most of the father card

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is bidding when it comes to not
only killing phase but he has

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this unnatural ability of being
able to find them.

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And of course later on in this
in the show like towards the end

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of the season, we find out that
the Weeping monk was actually

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fake and, you know, there's a,
there's a scene where after

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nimma ways Village who which was
also squirrels Village, he was

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one of them away his little
friends and after their Village

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was burned, he was waiting in
the wood, for them away and the

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Weeping monk actually catches
him, and he's just sitting there

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and squirrel is just going off
on him Hurley We insults, he

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spits on them.
He was like, yeah.

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They're going to find you and
blah blah blah.

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I mean, this little kid, has
some spunk.

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Yeah, he was one of my favorite
parts of this show but yeah it's

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kind of like what you said as
far as the nice being off a and

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say all I'm saying.
But most of them I mean, think

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about it.
Like you said Gawain was Faye.

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We find out there.
Lancelot was actually the

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Weeping Monk and he was faced a
squirrel was person.

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00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:44,600
Ville.
He will stay, and it's just kind

442
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:47,000
of like, I'm trying to think
they're there.

443
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:49,800
Did we meet any others?
No.

444
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:52,700
Because I think we thought that
they would probably show up in

445
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:58,400
in the s bedivere and I can't
remember.

446
00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:04,200
I had a yeah go ahead yeah.
Some of the ones I can't think

447
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:09,000
of the names right now, right.
But I thought that it was

448
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:12,100
interesting that they made them
Faye and then like you said,

449
00:30:12,100 --> 00:30:15,900
author is just this regular
human at least as far as we knew

450
00:30:16,300 --> 00:30:19,100
you know he had the only thing I
could think of was that he would

451
00:30:19,100 --> 00:30:24,100
be he would he was sort of
combine the world's You know,

452
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:28,500
and I think that's the direction
we're going because towards the

453
00:30:28,500 --> 00:30:31,700
end, he was actually the one
that was trying to get the faith

454
00:30:31,700 --> 00:30:33,500
to safety.
He was trying to get them out of

455
00:30:33,500 --> 00:30:37,800
their lands and and across the
seas so that they would be safe

456
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:45,700
and here isn't it would have
been like oh you're right,

457
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:49,200
you're right.
Oh yeah, after this is after

458
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:53,400
he's already like hooked up with
them away but um, yeah.

459
00:30:53,500 --> 00:30:58,700
Yeah, I just really wanted with
his want to see how office is

460
00:30:58,700 --> 00:31:01,800
gonna play out.
You know, he's got this love

461
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:05,900
affair with Nim way, and then
the woman that he's eventually

462
00:31:05,900 --> 00:31:11,000
going to marry, you know, and
Guinevere or maybe they would

463
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:14,200
had Guinevere hook up with
Lancelot, you mean, somehow end

464
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:18,700
up with author and then chilled
off with Landslide it.

465
00:31:18,700 --> 00:31:21,900
Then how does then we feed in
August this is all.

466
00:31:21,900 --> 00:31:24,100
I don't know.
The more I think about Realign

467
00:31:24,100 --> 00:31:26,400
them away was going to become
the Lady of the Lake.

468
00:31:26,500 --> 00:31:32,100
Yeah, see you.
But at some point she is but you

469
00:31:32,100 --> 00:31:35,300
know the chart charting these
shows.

470
00:31:35,300 --> 00:31:39,300
They go like six seasons, maybe
five seasons.

471
00:31:40,100 --> 00:31:42,600
This one probably went five,
maybe seven.

472
00:31:42,900 --> 00:31:44,200
Right?
Yeah.

473
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:48,300
Some point.
But between this point and her

474
00:31:48,300 --> 00:31:51,800
becoming a hated the lake,
there's so many other things

475
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:55,400
that you either.
Sort of have to happen or you

476
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:58,800
have to imply that happens?
Yeah, I mean, because it's some

477
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:03,000
point Arthur as to become king
and he's going to marry.

478
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,700
I mean, if they're gonna, if
you're gonna do Authority in

479
00:32:05,700 --> 00:32:09,400
legend, or you gonna do our
thorian, tail author.

480
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,800
Looks at week, one of year,
period, right?

481
00:32:12,900 --> 00:32:14,900
That's the big one of your has
an affair.

482
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:16,900
Isn't she have any feelings that
dude?

483
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:22,400
This is how it goes, right?
You're right in author.

484
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:25,200
Has to sleep with this.
Stir and have a child.

485
00:32:26,300 --> 00:32:30,100
It's you know, which would not
have worked well in this story

486
00:32:30,100 --> 00:32:34,400
because author and Morgan are
actually like, very close.

487
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:42,300
Morgana is a nun who she has an
interesting tale.

488
00:32:42,500 --> 00:32:48,300
Well she deceives him to sleep
with him so if you like stories.

489
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:53,100
Yeah, but I mean, in this one I
think it would have been weird.

490
00:32:53,100 --> 00:32:57,400
Well, Well, it wouldn't be a
weird one because Morgana was

491
00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:59,700
very, obviously a lesbian in
this one.

492
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:04,000
She had a girlfriend and that
was one of the things that kind

493
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:08,300
of I won't say contributed to
the convent being burned down

494
00:33:08,300 --> 00:33:11,100
but sister Iris was looking at
her like oh you're evil.

495
00:33:11,700 --> 00:33:14,300
You're part of this evil thing.
Oh, and your friends with this

496
00:33:14,300 --> 00:33:15,400
face a, you've been.
Yeah.

497
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:17,300
Okay, yeah.
So we need to take care of you.

498
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:20,200
We need to take care of all of
these people because the nuns

499
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:23,100
were help.
You know, they were safeguarding

500
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:27,100
Them away even though some of
the like I think the Mother

501
00:33:27,100 --> 00:33:32,600
Superior maybe a couple of other
nuns knew she was Faye, they hid

502
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:37,400
her from the red Paladin's and
sister Iris was like, oh no,

503
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:39,600
we're not doing that.
So all of y'all are going to

504
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:41,200
hell.
I'm going to burn all of you to

505
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:44,200
the ground.
Oh fucking sister Iris who that

506
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:51,500
little starting to remember and
listen oh she was just pissed me

507
00:33:51,500 --> 00:33:54,800
off.
Little something.

508
00:33:55,100 --> 00:33:58,100
That's right.
They had the whole girl with the

509
00:33:58,100 --> 00:33:59,600
magic and taking over the my
yeah.

510
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,300
It's coming back to me now to
choose misguided.

511
00:34:02,300 --> 00:34:04,100
She wasn't evil.
Yeah.

512
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:08,100
She's an evil Snowden.
I was like, she's a little kiss

513
00:34:08,100 --> 00:34:13,100
and it's like she not only burnt
the convent down, like the

514
00:34:13,100 --> 00:34:17,600
doors, locked the doors, and
lots of the doors so that they

515
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:20,699
couldn't get out.
Yeah, that bitch was evil.

516
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:29,000
She's evil But yeah, well just
because he had a relationship

517
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,400
with the woman doesn't
necessarily make her a lesbian

518
00:34:32,300 --> 00:34:37,000
and also we don't know.
We don't know what, we don't

519
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:40,600
know what happens.
Like we wouldn't have known how

520
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:45,500
becoming the daughter of death
with affected her rifle State.

521
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:50,300
Anyway, You know me, I'm so mad
that we will find this.

522
00:34:51,100 --> 00:34:56,100
Like, I was really interested to
see where this was going to go,

523
00:34:56,800 --> 00:35:01,500
but she does have to deceive.
Arthur, could have a baby with

524
00:35:01,500 --> 00:35:04,200
him.
The baby grows up to fight him

525
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:07,000
and kill him.
So this is how it goes.

526
00:35:07,700 --> 00:35:10,900
Yeah, that would have been
interesting to see what this but

527
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:14,900
I don't know.
I haven't read the book that the

528
00:35:14,900 --> 00:35:17,200
show is based on.
I've been meaning to Like pick

529
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:20,600
it up and read it just to see if
it goes any further.

530
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:24,400
But I don't, I don't think this
one.

531
00:35:24,500 --> 00:35:29,700
I don't think, I think it's only
one book that I know of so I

532
00:35:29,700 --> 00:35:32,700
don't know how far they, they
may have planned to take the

533
00:35:32,700 --> 00:35:35,400
show.
I don't know if I see it.

534
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:38,600
Going five or six seasons.
Like it may have done a second

535
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:40,400
season may have done, maybe
three.

536
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:44,300
And of course they probably
would have just kind of rushed

537
00:35:44,300 --> 00:35:46,600
the story along as far as memoed
be.

538
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:52,100
Coming lady in the lake but I
still feel like it had the

539
00:35:52,100 --> 00:35:55,900
potential to be a great show.
Like it was a fun show and we

540
00:35:55,900 --> 00:35:58,000
watched.
And of course, like you said,

541
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:00,400
this was in the midst of the
pandemic.

542
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:03,500
Like we started this podcast,
September of 2020.

543
00:36:03,700 --> 00:36:07,000
I think the first time we talked
about the show, I think, Mike

544
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:10,800
and I discussed it in like
August because we were like,

545
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:14,000
okay, we're going to watch this
show and we're gonna, you know,

546
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:18,600
do an episode because this was
of what, when we were trying to

547
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:22,200
figure out what we were going to
be as a show and Mike and I try

548
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:27,600
to discuss the whole season in
one episode and we did a to our

549
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:29,700
recording.
And when I went to edit it, I

550
00:36:29,707 --> 00:36:33,800
was like, we didn't even touch
the surface of all the stuff

551
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:37,000
that was going on in the show,
which is how we decided to start

552
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:41,500
doing episodic episodes.
Just so we can kind of get into

553
00:36:41,500 --> 00:36:45,200
the meat and potatoes of, you
know what's going on.

554
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:48,900
But it The potential to be a
really, really great show.

555
00:36:48,900 --> 00:36:51,300
And unfortunately, I hate to say
it.

556
00:36:51,900 --> 00:36:55,600
The several shows that have to
do with like these types of

557
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:58,300
Tails and whatever.
I feel like they weren't given a

558
00:36:58,300 --> 00:36:59,900
chance.
Again, I'm going to mention

559
00:36:59,900 --> 00:37:02,100
Camelot because we will be
talking about this show.

560
00:37:02,100 --> 00:37:05,400
If I have anything to say about
it, that was one of the show's.

561
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:08,300
I absolutely loved and I was
like, oh I'm so excited.

562
00:37:08,300 --> 00:37:11,000
They need to do a second season
and then of course they canceled

563
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:14,900
it and I'm just like, you know
that shows a chance.

564
00:37:14,900 --> 00:37:17,100
You know, I understand I can
Stand.

565
00:37:17,100 --> 00:37:21,700
If, if the show was horrible and
your numbers were horrible.

566
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:25,100
But if you see that people have
an interest about if people are

567
00:37:25,100 --> 00:37:28,800
talking about it, yeah it may
not be a Game of Thrones or may

568
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:32,600
not be the last of us or
anything like that, but if the

569
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:36,700
interest is there giving you the
show a chance to find its

570
00:37:36,700 --> 00:37:39,200
footing?
You know, sometimes you can't do

571
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:42,500
that with just one season.
There are a lot of shows that

572
00:37:42,700 --> 00:37:46,600
have ended after one season that
were great show.

573
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:52,800
Oath and have the potential to
be even better, you know, but I

574
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:56,600
don't know.
I I just this one is nostalgic

575
00:37:56,600 --> 00:38:00,300
for me, I think more so because
like I said this was kind of one

576
00:38:00,300 --> 00:38:04,900
of our starting points as a
podcast and we had a lot of fun

577
00:38:04,900 --> 00:38:09,600
discussing is like we had a lot
of fun discussing you but it is

578
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:13,300
interesting.
Going back and revisiting it

579
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:16,600
after some time has passed to
see whether or not it, huh?

580
00:38:16,700 --> 00:38:19,400
Holds up to the way that we
liked it at first.

581
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:20,700
And that's not just with this
show.

582
00:38:20,700 --> 00:38:24,000
I found that with a lot of
shows, like there's some shows

583
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:26,300
that I watch, and when I go
back, I have a different

584
00:38:26,300 --> 00:38:29,800
perspective on it, whether it's
a good perspective or a bad

585
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:32,400
perspective, like, oh, this
show, really wasn't as great as

586
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:36,000
I thought it was, or maybe to
show wasn't as bad as I thought

587
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:38,200
it was.
You know, it happens every once

588
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:41,300
in a while.
I still like what I remember

589
00:38:41,300 --> 00:38:44,300
about the show.
But yeah, I'm kind of bummed it

590
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:46,100
that we didn't get a second
season.

591
00:38:46,700 --> 00:38:50,600
I do appreciate.
Oh, I do appreciate the thorian

592
00:38:51,300 --> 00:38:54,800
stuff because you know, we can
never have too much.

593
00:38:54,900 --> 00:38:57,800
Like right, you know, we the
spreadsheet.

594
00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:01,000
I'm sitting there, I'm entering
the ones that I like and then I

595
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:07,500
found all the ones that I don't
like talking about anyone elses

596
00:39:07,500 --> 00:39:13,600
list, but, you know, there's
some some pretty bad ones on

597
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:16,400
there.
Look, I'm still pissed.

598
00:39:16,700 --> 00:39:19,500
That we didn't get a second
season and I will forever be

599
00:39:19,500 --> 00:39:21,800
pissed because I was getting
into it.

600
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:25,400
I was fully invested in this
series like the whole time.

601
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:30,000
Just like, I mean Merlin Merlin
was like really intriguing to me

602
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:34,800
the way they portrayed him as
where they gave him like a mini

603
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:37,900
Redemption Arc where he's like a
drunk ne'er-do-well.

604
00:39:38,100 --> 00:39:40,700
He can't do any magic.
Then he comes around and

605
00:39:40,700 --> 00:39:45,900
realizes that he has a daughter
and he tries to actually be a

606
00:39:45,900 --> 00:39:49,000
good father.
Or in his own way and then it's

607
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:52,800
like, you didn't you go back and
you see where he came from, like

608
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:58,900
he was actually a bad person and
he actually came back from that

609
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:02,800
like you know and that's like
and that's something that is

610
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:05,900
like not really told in most
author Ian Tails.

611
00:40:05,900 --> 00:40:09,000
It's like they never really say
that he was evil and he killed

612
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:10,300
people.
It's like you don't really hear

613
00:40:10,300 --> 00:40:13,000
that.
In most Arthurian Tales is like,

614
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:18,800
usually, he's just a magician
and he's like, oh well, I think

615
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:23,100
in this one, he character a lot
of times because if you think

616
00:40:23,100 --> 00:40:26,500
about the the many City, the
Merlin miniseries, they came out

617
00:40:26,500 --> 00:40:33,700
in the 90s.
I mean he did Why did my mind

618
00:40:33,700 --> 00:40:36,900
just go blank?
But basically he used the spell

619
00:40:36,900 --> 00:40:45,600
to disguise someone To be Gwen
Wayne's husband so that he could

620
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:51,400
bet her and I was like wait so
oh this is this is horrible,

621
00:40:53,300 --> 00:40:58,600
there's a but there's a there's
a difference between helping

622
00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:00,400
somebody commits adultery and
killing people.

623
00:41:00,700 --> 00:41:02,700
Yeah.
Don't you see?

624
00:41:02,700 --> 00:41:06,900
He's like he's starts off like
this one.

625
00:41:06,900 --> 00:41:10,500
They just take it to an extreme.
He starts off as good with good.

626
00:41:11,500 --> 00:41:16,700
And use perverted somehow in the
things to him.

627
00:41:16,700 --> 00:41:21,600
Did not necessarily bad they're
just you know the means to an

628
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:27,100
end here that think this one.
If I'm not mistaken something

629
00:41:27,100 --> 00:41:32,000
happened and the fake-out upset.
So they attack room.

630
00:41:33,500 --> 00:41:37,800
It was something weird but he
wasn't he didn't.

631
00:41:37,900 --> 00:41:40,400
He just got corrupted.
He didn't start off.

632
00:41:40,500 --> 00:41:44,400
His eat when he's right, but we,
but we didn't realize he was

633
00:41:44,700 --> 00:41:48,200
evil and tried to stop it.
What it was like, he was forced

634
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:50,300
to.
I mean, there's, there's several

635
00:41:50,300 --> 00:41:54,300
fantasy novels that they were,
they take the Mage that is

636
00:41:54,300 --> 00:41:57,800
either lawful good neutral or
good, and they slowly, or

637
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:00,600
forcefully, turn them into being
bad.

638
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:01,800
And that's exactly what they
did.

639
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:04,800
They use that Trope where he was
his back, was up against the

640
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:07,800
wall, he had to do something,
and it was a bad, and he just

641
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:10,400
never got back from cap.
But the thing that I found one,

642
00:42:10,500 --> 00:42:14,800
I forgot about this which was
interesting is that this series

643
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:18,300
did something that a lot of
them, don't it really did not

644
00:42:18,300 --> 00:42:22,700
focus on Arthur at all.
I mean we got Arthur but you've

645
00:42:22,700 --> 00:42:25,600
got Nimble a, you've got, you've
got Merlin, you've got everyone

646
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:29,300
else and it was a very
interesting take because I think

647
00:42:29,300 --> 00:42:31,900
that this is something that we
hadn't seen before or very

648
00:42:31,900 --> 00:42:35,800
rarely and like they're showing
the kid, like the little kid

649
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:38,300
with the Elvish, the kid that
she sings.

650
00:42:38,500 --> 00:42:40,100
Remember, they went back.
Yes.

651
00:42:40,500 --> 00:42:43,500
They went back into the cave
with the people and she's

652
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:46,400
declaring herself to be, you
know, basically the queen of

653
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:49,700
all.
I mean it was a very interesting

654
00:42:49,700 --> 00:42:51,700
take with everything that they
did.

655
00:42:51,700 --> 00:42:54,400
And I get, I'm sad that we
didn't get another season.

656
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:59,100
But you know if what would I
just randomly throw this on the

657
00:42:59,100 --> 00:43:00,700
background while I'm doing
something?

658
00:43:00,700 --> 00:43:02,100
Yeah.
Probably.

659
00:43:02,700 --> 00:43:05,100
Would I get through all of it?
I would probably get through

660
00:43:05,100 --> 00:43:07,500
most of it and I remember it was
cancelled, I might go something

661
00:43:07,500 --> 00:43:09,600
else but yeah, I would
definitely watch this.

662
00:43:10,900 --> 00:43:15,500
Yeah, I'm here but I think my
point was that it's like it's

663
00:43:15,500 --> 00:43:18,700
still kind of a different like
this whole curse, the whole show

664
00:43:18,700 --> 00:43:22,700
is basically gives you a
different story about most of

665
00:43:22,707 --> 00:43:24,800
the most of the characters in
Arthurian Legends.

666
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:28,400
Like Arthur wasn't black in
Arthurian Legend, but he's black

667
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:31,200
here.
Neither was Morgana and she's

668
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:32,900
black here.
I was going to mention.

669
00:43:32,900 --> 00:43:38,100
This was one of the, this was
one of the first shows I think

670
00:43:38,100 --> 00:43:43,200
in this new wave of fantasies
shows that had a diverse fried

671
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:46,100
cast, right?
And I can appreciate that.

672
00:43:46,100 --> 00:43:49,700
It's like, and like Lancelot
being a PHA in like killing

673
00:43:49,700 --> 00:43:51,700
other.
Faith is like that wasn't, that

674
00:43:51,700 --> 00:43:53,700
wasn't in most Arthurian Legends
either.

675
00:43:53,900 --> 00:43:57,000
It's like, it's just a different
way of telling it and I can I

676
00:43:57,000 --> 00:44:00,200
really appreciated that just
because it's not, it's not the

677
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:03,500
same thing, it's not it's not.
You're sitting there like okay,

678
00:44:03,500 --> 00:44:06,800
King Arthur gets the sword.
He's a king.

679
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:09,800
Okay.
Okay, he dies, Berlin help.

680
00:44:09,900 --> 00:44:11,800
Okay.
Morgana's evil.

681
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:13,300
She's good for.
Okay.

682
00:44:13,300 --> 00:44:15,000
Yeah.
But it's like it's different.

683
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:18,800
It feels it felt like a
different telling of the

684
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:21,000
Arthurian Legend.
It felt fresher to me.

685
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:24,700
It's like his other than just
telling the story again, it's

686
00:44:24,700 --> 00:44:28,900
just like it's kind of like with
brother was telling the story

687
00:44:28,908 --> 00:44:30,800
again but the characters were
younger.

688
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:35,100
They weren't like older as far
as being where they were in

689
00:44:35,100 --> 00:44:38,900
life, they were young like there
were almost teenagers basically,

690
00:44:38,900 --> 00:44:42,200
in the See series Merlin, but
this end this is kind of the

691
00:44:42,207 --> 00:44:44,200
same way to me.
It's like just basically an

692
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:48,700
origin story is a prequel to The
Other ithorian ithorian tails.

693
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:54,700
Yeah, I think one of the things
that I really want to see in the

694
00:44:54,700 --> 00:44:58,600
second season, like I mentioned,
we didn't see a lot of author in

695
00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:00,500
this one because this wasn't his
story.

696
00:45:00,500 --> 00:45:05,300
It was Nimoy story, but you did
see a little bit of Arthur maybe

697
00:45:05,300 --> 00:45:08,300
being on the path to who he
would become.

698
00:45:08,700 --> 00:45:11,700
But I have the third episode
playing in the background and I

699
00:45:11,707 --> 00:45:15,700
was like, yo, I really wanted to
see him fight more because his

700
00:45:15,700 --> 00:45:19,600
skill his skills with a sword.
We're pretty fucking amazing.

701
00:45:21,100 --> 00:45:24,400
That was like oh that would have
been interesting to see but all

702
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:27,800
we never got weeping muck and
author fighting.

703
00:45:27,900 --> 00:45:32,400
I think about it, briefly
briefly yeah briefly.

704
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:37,100
Right.
But I mean it there were so many

705
00:45:37,100 --> 00:45:39,400
good things about this that I
did.

706
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:42,900
Like we got introduced to
another Skarsgard from well for

707
00:45:42,900 --> 00:45:48,500
most of us because I don't think
Gustaf Skarsgård had done a lot

708
00:45:48,500 --> 00:45:51,300
here.
Not that I know like this was

709
00:45:51,300 --> 00:45:54,600
the first thing that I remember
seeing him prominently in and

710
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:59,800
then I think after cursed is
when he started doing Vikings

711
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:05,400
and know this was his first,
didn't he?

712
00:46:19,700 --> 00:46:25,100
They Vikings is like further up,
but I see, ya Vikings is 2013,

713
00:46:25,100 --> 00:46:30,500
but yes, so I know a lot of
people know him from that but I

714
00:46:30,500 --> 00:46:33,700
hadn't watched that show.
So this was the first time I had

715
00:46:33,700 --> 00:46:37,100
really gotten to see him.
And I was like, okay, so that

716
00:46:37,100 --> 00:46:40,700
family is just talented all
around like every single one of

717
00:46:40,707 --> 00:46:42,600
them.
But yeah, the character, the

718
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:46,900
character that he's playing
here, I think is a better

719
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:50,700
character for him because In
Vikings, he was sort of

720
00:46:50,700 --> 00:46:53,600
constraints of being Floki, and
being the boat, and she'll ship

721
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:56,400
maker and all that.
But in this, it really gives him

722
00:46:56,400 --> 00:47:00,300
a really good range until it
kind of hate to say this kind of

723
00:47:00,300 --> 00:47:04,100
makes him a better actor than
Alexander, you know, just

724
00:47:04,100 --> 00:47:05,500
brother and True Blood, you
know?

725
00:47:05,500 --> 00:47:09,700
So least that's my yeah, and it
also also it's like this is the

726
00:47:09,700 --> 00:47:13,600
time when the scars guards were
really coming into their own.

727
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:17,100
Like this is when Bill was
coming out of him like Grove and

728
00:47:17,100 --> 00:47:21,500
getting into Pennywise and their
The father was in Mamma Mia

729
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:24,400
place for years.
Yeah, exactly.

730
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:28,400
So it's like so then so this is
like right in the in the realm

731
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:32,000
of Skarsgard domination as it
were and like being on Netflix

732
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:34,200
like you know I mean they were
they were freaking everywhere on

733
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:37,600
Netflix almost like they don't
own stock in it.

734
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:39,100
Like they were majority
stockholders.

735
00:47:39,100 --> 00:47:41,800
Are like it's for my show own.
Goddamn it, it's good.

736
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:44,200
It's my show.
Just, you know, I got stopped.

737
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:49,200
Yeah, I don't know, like I said,
it's this is one of those shows

738
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:51,300
where Where it would have been
nice to see where they were

739
00:47:51,300 --> 00:47:56,000
going to go with it.
But it's all we can do is

740
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:59,200
speculate now or read the book
which I probably.

741
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:02,400
Like I said I probably will end
up doing just because I want to

742
00:48:02,408 --> 00:48:07,800
see if there was more but there
were certain things I really did

743
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:11,900
like about it, you know again
them away being the main

744
00:48:11,900 --> 00:48:17,000
character instead of you know
the tale focusing on this man as

745
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:21,800
it always does.
I like the PHA aspect of it.

746
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:25,400
It that was interesting.
The reveals of landslides and

747
00:48:25,408 --> 00:48:30,100
Percival were, I think by the
end it wasn't really a shocking

748
00:48:30,100 --> 00:48:33,400
because I think both you and
Anthony, Mike.

749
00:48:33,700 --> 00:48:37,400
I think both of y'all kind of
started speculating that, that's

750
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:39,200
what will be.
I know Anthony was the one who

751
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:43,400
was really like spot-on.
Like yeah, the whimpers monk,

752
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:46,300
he's going to be like, yeah, I
got to get busy that theory.

753
00:48:46,300 --> 00:48:48,700
I couldn't, I can't take take, I
can't take credit for that

754
00:48:48,700 --> 00:48:49,300
theory.
I gotta go.

755
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:52,200
Yeah, that was back.
When Anthony was really still

756
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:58,200
doing here.
They no longer exist.

757
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:20,800
I think there's so many good
Arthurian Legend Tails out

758
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:24,400
there, like, we actually have a
spreadsheet going because we're

759
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:29,500
trying to figure out.
So the plan is to discuss one

760
00:49:29,700 --> 00:49:32,500
per month.
Just because there's so many out

761
00:49:32,500 --> 00:49:35,100
there and we were trying to
figure out how we were going to

762
00:49:35,100 --> 00:49:40,900
narrow this down, so we actually
have a list of potential

763
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:46,100
discussion topics.
And I think everybody's done

764
00:49:46,100 --> 00:49:50,400
like four or five, you know just
kind of throwing some out there

765
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:53,800
and then we'll decide which ones
were going to do but also for

766
00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:56,100
those of you who are listening,
if this is something you're

767
00:49:56,100 --> 00:49:58,900
interested in want to hear our
you know our take on something

768
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:01,400
kind of let us know in the
comments wherever you're

769
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:04,500
listening to this.
To whether it's Spotify or

770
00:50:04,500 --> 00:50:08,100
YouTube or on our Facebook page.
Let us know what you want to

771
00:50:08,700 --> 00:50:10,500
hear us discuss.
You know.

772
00:50:11,500 --> 00:50:15,500
Some of the suggestions like Why
have the 98 version of Merlin?

773
00:50:15,500 --> 00:50:19,700
Which is a which was, I think it
back then it was like a six-part

774
00:50:19,700 --> 00:50:23,600
miniseries.
So I have that one.

775
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:27,000
Of course Camelot because
everybody who listens to this

776
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:29,400
knows I'm a huge.
Jamie Campbell Bower fit the

777
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:32,200
fan.
I have Monty Python and the Holy

778
00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:35,900
Grail, The Sword in the Stone,
the Disney version and the green

779
00:50:36,100 --> 00:50:38,600
that we got talking about, I
love that's what I might be.

780
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:42,200
My favorite one is one sort of
stone.

781
00:50:42,300 --> 00:50:46,700
Okay.
Yeah, Anthony has Excalibur, he

782
00:50:46,700 --> 00:50:50,700
has the 2004 version of King
Arthur with Clive Owen.

783
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:55,400
The last Legion and The Mists of
Avalon, which technically

784
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:58,100
speaking is an Arthurian Tale,
But it taught it.

785
00:50:58,100 --> 00:51:00,700
Focuses on the women and
Arthur's life.

786
00:51:00,700 --> 00:51:03,300
And then Mike has A Knight's
Tale.

787
00:51:03,500 --> 00:51:06,500
He has King Arthur the version
with Charlie Hunnam.

788
00:51:06,500 --> 00:51:10,200
In it first night, Shrek, did
you really quit?

789
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:16,100
Shrek, the Third Reich.
It's a thorium, I'm not a big

790
00:51:16,100 --> 00:51:31,700
Shrek fan but I don't know if we
if we if we do it towards the

791
00:51:31,700 --> 00:51:36,100
end it'll make sense after we go
through obvious.

792
00:51:36,500 --> 00:51:39,400
Okay.
Those mobile and Mike also has

793
00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:44,100
The Sorcerer's Apprentice and
the Librarians and Lori's less.

794
00:51:44,100 --> 00:51:47,800
She has Merlin the BBC series
letter for the king,

795
00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:51,300
Connecticut.
Yankee in King Arthur's Court.

796
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:54,800
Black Knight.
She has the two-part King Arthur

797
00:51:54,800 --> 00:52:01,100
crackling The Martin.
Lawrence Black Knight laughed

798
00:52:01,300 --> 00:52:03,900
out loud.
I've screwed the spreadsheet

799
00:52:03,900 --> 00:52:07,900
over and I saw the black night,
I literally flawed my chest

800
00:52:07,900 --> 00:52:25,400
right there.
So we'll start kind of

801
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:28,600
discussing those and maybe
eliminating them, you know,

802
00:52:28,700 --> 00:52:35,400
eliminating some off the list,
you know, and try to decide

803
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:37,800
which ones are going to be the
entertaining ones.

804
00:52:38,900 --> 00:52:44,200
I think we have already decided
that Black Knight Will Maybe one

805
00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:49,100
of the well, one of the
remaining 11, I already know

806
00:52:49,500 --> 00:52:56,300
Camelot is going to be one of
them because I said, so we have

807
00:52:56,300 --> 00:52:59,900
to King Arthur's on here.
So, those two might be, you

808
00:52:59,900 --> 00:53:02,400
know, selected to compare and
contrast.

809
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:07,300
And I think we have to do a
Merlin, like, we have to sew.

810
00:53:07,300 --> 00:53:12,200
And the one, the one from 98 is
a classic but the miniseries is

811
00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:15,400
also a good One.
I think I watch like maybe two

812
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:19,800
episodes of the BBC series and I
just couldn't get into it.

813
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:22,000
I don't know if it was that I
wasn't.

814
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:23,600
It takes longer than two
episodes.

815
00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:27,700
Yeah, told me that too.
So, it takes most of the first

816
00:53:27,700 --> 00:53:30,600
season was like, once you once
you get into it, it's like, they

817
00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:35,300
fly by.
Oh, yeah, you got to get over

818
00:53:35,300 --> 00:53:40,300
the way that they portray Arthur
as being just this jock.

819
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:45,400
And if you can see, He's like
totally like the quarterback

820
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:48,600
team captain.
Like, like I'm always right and

821
00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:52,500
Arthur you sniveling, little
blah, blah, blah, and and

822
00:53:52,500 --> 00:53:55,700
authors literally, the one that
saves his ass every day you guys

823
00:53:55,700 --> 00:53:58,400
say Arthur, at first, Arthur was
the one that I've been more

824
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:05,200
Merlin, Merlin, Merlin saves his
ass, constantly and episode, and

825
00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:08,000
it's it.
And and, and honestly, even

826
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:12,200
though it is one of my favorite
television shows ever, I'm still

827
00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:13,400
trying to figure out.
Out.

828
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:15,300
How did whatever fall over him
again?

829
00:54:15,500 --> 00:54:21,700
I mean make any sense.
I mean, it makes it easy to

830
00:54:21,700 --> 00:54:23,900
understand why she fell from
Lancelot.

831
00:54:24,300 --> 00:54:30,100
Yeah, exactly exactly yeah,
yeah, cuz who that that was not

832
00:54:30,100 --> 00:54:34,100
the best one because whatever's
Finest - I'll get outta here

833
00:54:34,100 --> 00:54:35,800
too.
That's the only major acting

834
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:39,200
that she's done for.
What I can tell you is that she

835
00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:42,200
doesn't really done anything
since then and I don't know why

836
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:44,500
because she was It?
Wait.

837
00:54:44,500 --> 00:54:47,800
I just thought about something
isn't is Gallagher and

838
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:51,100
authoring, okay?
Hmm.

839
00:54:51,100 --> 00:54:54,400
Thought about the musical that
the Musical one drink?

840
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:59,000
Yeah, I think so, which Anthony
is probably like, no, no, no.

841
00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:01,300
Well, I'm glad.
I'm yes, it is.

842
00:55:01,300 --> 00:55:06,400
Yes, yes it is.
I'm going, I'm going, I'm going

843
00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:09,000
to Advocate.
I know you kind of went over.

844
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:13,100
It kind of quick but I am going
to Advocate that if you There's

845
00:55:13,100 --> 00:55:16,900
some good old-fashioned fun, the
two-parter that MacGyver did in

846
00:55:16,900 --> 00:55:20,600
the back, in the day, he gets
hit on the head and he winds up.

847
00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:24,100
Wakes up in King Arthur time.
You can't a lot and it's a

848
00:55:24,107 --> 00:55:26,200
two-part and they were highly
entire time.

849
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:28,200
They filmed and wrote These two
episodes.

850
00:55:30,300 --> 00:55:34,800
The cool thing about what I like
about, Thorium things is that

851
00:55:35,300 --> 00:55:39,200
they basically is the foundation
of what fantasy is.

852
00:55:40,100 --> 00:55:44,200
We you talk about the search for
the The the holy grail and the

853
00:55:44,207 --> 00:55:48,100
Knights of the Round Table is is
literally this orphan who has a

854
00:55:48,100 --> 00:55:52,900
magic sword who goes on the
quest to find a magic item.

855
00:55:53,300 --> 00:55:58,500
And that's like everything that
you read this fantasy basically

856
00:55:58,500 --> 00:56:01,500
Falls in that category like Star
Wars.

857
00:56:01,500 --> 00:56:03,100
I can make argument is Star
Wars.

858
00:56:03,100 --> 00:56:08,900
I'm touring the big it is.
I've heard that before.

859
00:56:08,900 --> 00:56:15,000
Yeah, almost all fantasy.
Use of thorium.

860
00:56:15,300 --> 00:56:18,700
Just by the way, it's written
this, by the way, with the

861
00:56:18,700 --> 00:56:21,000
entails.
Yeah, there are parallels in

862
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:22,900
everything, I mean.
That's why I put a nice job.

863
00:56:22,900 --> 00:56:26,100
Nice old really is done anything
to do with King Arthur, but we

864
00:56:26,100 --> 00:56:29,800
look at it.
It is Arthurian in what it in,

865
00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:33,800
how the story is told, I mean, I
literally started to put Star

866
00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:36,700
Wars Harry Potter.
Absolutely.

867
00:56:37,100 --> 00:56:38,400
Let me stop.
But yeah.

868
00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:49,700
I mean, we might And our
favorite sci-fi fantasy sci-fi

869
00:56:49,700 --> 00:56:51,800
fantasy titles.
I mean we could do an episode

870
00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:54,900
like on that that would just
just draw parallels.

871
00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:57,900
Yeah, and then the other, the
other thing that is I have two

872
00:56:57,900 --> 00:57:02,700
on my list is the the popular
one, where you go to sleep, you

873
00:57:02,700 --> 00:57:05,200
get hit on the head and you wake
up and you're in a different

874
00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:07,600
time and place in your Camelot.
That's what Black Knight.

875
00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:08,900
That's what the MacGyver
episodes.

876
00:57:09,100 --> 00:57:13,300
Those are also a lot of fun
because it gives you the Oh, I

877
00:57:13,300 --> 00:57:16,700
actually have three because I've
Got A Connecticut Yankee in King

878
00:57:16,700 --> 00:57:19,600
Arthur's Court.
So I guess that's what I guess.

879
00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:23,100
It's my favorite theme for King
Arthur is that we're going to

880
00:57:23,100 --> 00:57:27,100
end up doing black better.
We I mean the way that y'all

881
00:57:27,100 --> 00:57:30,100
reacts I don't I don't think
I've seen black night.

882
00:57:30,100 --> 00:57:32,600
Oh you need to see a raving
Yahoo reacted to it.

883
00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:35,300
I'm like, okay that's definitely
going to be one because the way

884
00:57:35,300 --> 00:57:39,800
you're looking at me now you're
like wait wait.

885
00:57:46,400 --> 00:58:18,500
Hey.
I was thinking more along the

886
00:58:18,500 --> 00:58:23,400
lines of Oh, is Technicolor the
old though?

887
00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:25,100
They did.
I think they did one in the 50s.

888
00:58:25,100 --> 00:58:26,700
That was pretty good.
But yeah.

889
00:58:26,700 --> 00:58:28,000
That was I forgot about that one
too.

890
00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:30,200
But yeah.
So yeah that was I guess know

891
00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:31,800
which one you're talking about
Lori.

892
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:37,400
Yeah yeah okay yeah.
So we have plenty to choose from

893
00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:39,800
and just because you said, no
Anthony.

894
00:58:39,800 --> 00:58:46,200
We are going to do what if I say
no to I could say I could

895
00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:50,100
supported me on this one, I just
think it would be funny to look

896
00:58:50,100 --> 00:58:54,000
at it from a different point of
view, a different genre and a

897
00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:55,400
different.
Yeah.

898
00:58:55,500 --> 00:58:59,200
I think that well I guess I'm
not opposed to it.

899
00:58:59,300 --> 00:59:02,200
We don't have to we don't have
to like them all.

900
00:59:02,200 --> 00:59:04,700
I mean we can sit here and watch
it and roast it.

901
00:59:04,700 --> 00:59:08,200
I mean that's fine, it'll it'll
make for a very interesting and

902
00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:14,200
humorous episode, it's a prime
Martin Lawrence and his campea

903
00:59:14,200 --> 00:59:16,400
said, I mean, we're talking
Going big head.

904
00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:18,700
Everything.
This is perfect.

905
00:59:20,500 --> 00:59:22,600
Oh yeah.
Well he does dance to the music.

906
00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:26,400
Like with a friggin String Band
is like with with a medieval

907
00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:30,400
band it's like oh God it's
cringy but is actually kind of

908
00:59:30,408 --> 00:59:32,500
cool.
But yeah that is definitely

909
00:59:32,500 --> 00:59:35,600
going to be one of the ones that
we do will probably put that

910
00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:38,400
towards the end.
Kind of with Shrek.

911
00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:51,600
The Third actually I hate When I
was just like, why am I watching

912
00:59:51,600 --> 00:59:53,800
this again?
I just single one was on the

913
00:59:53,800 --> 00:59:59,100
best ones.
I'll take your word for it.

914
00:59:59,600 --> 01:00:02,600
Oh my God.
What's a fairy godmother?

915
01:00:02,600 --> 01:00:08,400
Come on now, I'm just I just
wasn't will see that back that

916
01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:12,100
throughout another side thing
and I had to rein myself in when

917
01:00:12,100 --> 01:00:15,300
I was putting my lips together
because I said that Mark is like

918
01:00:15,300 --> 01:00:18,300
the other officials suggestor of
things and he was like well what

919
01:00:18,300 --> 01:00:20,800
about Once Upon a Time go that's
not strictly King.

920
01:00:20,800 --> 01:00:23,200
Arthur is that's fairytale.
It's completely different.

921
01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:45,700
But usually my dad.
I sat there with a man.

922
01:00:57,700 --> 01:01:03,100
To being a ding, a damn doctor
with the red sphere, almost the

923
01:01:03,100 --> 01:01:05,600
pirate Queen.
I mean, she was there, you know,

924
01:01:05,700 --> 01:01:07,400
right.
She was going to just see that

925
01:01:07,500 --> 01:01:10,200
we could have just seen on Tire
spin off series with just her.

926
01:01:10,300 --> 01:01:13,600
You know, I ain't old loved it.
I would probably know about it

927
01:01:13,800 --> 01:01:15,400
that would love her.
See.

928
01:01:15,400 --> 01:01:17,600
I mean, she basically pull every
scene they shoot her and

929
01:01:17,600 --> 01:01:19,400
squirrel.
Like, yeah, well, I would watch

930
01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:20,600
the whole thing with her and
squirrel.

931
01:01:20,600 --> 01:01:22,500
Just getting in trouble and
getting out of trouble.

932
01:01:22,700 --> 01:01:26,900
Yeah, well before I every for
every pin in a series, it was a

933
01:01:26,900 --> 01:01:30,900
fisher king.
Same with someone just oh my

934
01:01:30,900 --> 01:01:34,800
god.
Oh he was so creepy relevant to

935
01:01:34,800 --> 01:01:40,500
the story who's chronically
relevant just thrown in as just

936
01:01:40,500 --> 01:01:45,000
some you know nod to something.
You know.

937
01:01:45,200 --> 01:01:48,500
Let's just try to make it.
There was one of the things they

938
01:01:48,508 --> 01:01:51,400
had about the right thing.
It's like sometimes you just put

939
01:01:51,400 --> 01:01:55,400
things in just to have them in
there and it's like but it made

940
01:01:55,400 --> 01:02:00,400
no significant Improvement.
Me into the story right at all,

941
01:02:00,400 --> 01:02:01,000
right?
Yeah.

942
01:02:01,700 --> 01:02:03,900
Why even have the fisher king in
it?

943
01:02:04,000 --> 01:02:06,300
If you aren't really going to do
anything with it.

944
01:02:06,900 --> 01:02:09,000
Yeah.
Probably just a creep people out

945
01:02:09,000 --> 01:02:12,600
and have a Min and to just add
an attack.

946
01:02:12,600 --> 01:02:15,100
They mean basically it was just
adding antagonist.

947
01:02:15,200 --> 01:02:18,600
Basically that's all it was.
It's just this have someone

948
01:02:18,600 --> 01:02:20,600
that's just make him an
assassin, let's put them into

949
01:02:20,600 --> 01:02:22,700
episodes and kill them off
quick.

950
01:02:23,600 --> 01:02:24,900
That's basically all he did to
me.

951
01:02:25,400 --> 01:02:28,400
He's in the compass of sassy
can't even Merlin right.

952
01:02:28,400 --> 01:02:31,900
Like exactly man.
Been in the chest with his

953
01:02:31,900 --> 01:02:40,100
Emperor and he kills you, if
Merlin so a depowered Merlin,

954
01:02:40,600 --> 01:02:47,100
no, well, a poison arrow at
that, whatever.

955
01:02:47,200 --> 01:02:52,100
That's neither here, nor there.
Yeah.

956
01:02:52,100 --> 01:03:07,200
I just like I said, I don't have
to be a little bit better than

957
01:03:07,200 --> 01:03:10,000
you, remember it.
You didn't go back and re-watch

958
01:03:10,000 --> 01:03:13,000
it.
So maybe I watched bits and

959
01:03:13,000 --> 01:03:17,100
pieces males and I think I'm, I
think I'm actually going to go

960
01:03:17,100 --> 01:03:20,900
back and listen to our, I listen
to our our podcast episodes on

961
01:03:20,900 --> 01:03:23,800
it.
I think I was cautiously

962
01:03:23,800 --> 01:03:26,300
optimistic.
You were at first?

963
01:03:26,300 --> 01:03:28,500
Yeah, I want to go back and I'm
Alyssa.

964
01:03:28,500 --> 01:03:31,400
I want to listen to what we did
on the next to last episode to

965
01:03:31,400 --> 01:03:33,800
hear hear what you have to say
about Lancelot.

966
01:03:33,800 --> 01:03:38,900
And just to hear you say they
better, not know what happened

967
01:03:38,900 --> 01:03:41,200
was.
I was cautiously optimistic, I

968
01:03:41,200 --> 01:03:43,800
knew was going to be attraction.
Y'all suck me in?

969
01:03:44,300 --> 01:03:48,100
Maybe I think it was good.
Yeah, cuz I do it was good.

970
01:03:51,900 --> 01:03:56,900
Yeah, you were not very excited
about the first few episodes.

971
01:03:56,900 --> 01:04:00,800
Then kind of in the middle you
were like, okay it's getting

972
01:04:00,800 --> 01:04:03,400
there but of course you know
what what is it that we always

973
01:04:03,400 --> 01:04:08,200
say You Gotta Give a show like
at least four episodes, see how

974
01:04:08,200 --> 01:04:12,000
it's going to be and like by
episode 4 5 6 right around there

975
01:04:12,000 --> 01:04:15,200
we were like oh okay in there
and again good, you know.

976
01:04:15,200 --> 01:04:20,000
Yep.
Um and then, I guess, You know,

977
01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:22,500
the powers that be at Netflix
was like, nope, we're not going

978
01:04:22,500 --> 01:04:26,000
to do this anymore.
See, this is what you get for -

979
01:04:26,000 --> 01:04:29,600
thinking Anthony C, negative
Vibes, have have consequences,

980
01:04:29,700 --> 01:04:32,100
they have consequences, sir,
that's not right?

981
01:04:32,100 --> 01:04:36,100
Because at the time I had
Positive Vibes, I was thinking

982
01:04:36,100 --> 01:04:39,000
of the show was getting on the
rails.

983
01:04:39,300 --> 01:04:42,000
It was gonna be okay.
Everything was fine.

984
01:04:43,000 --> 01:04:46,200
And then, you know, you you're
thinking you're a public key for

985
01:04:46,200 --> 01:04:48,100
it, privately against it.
I know what, I know.

986
01:04:48,100 --> 01:04:49,300
What's.
That know what happened?

987
01:04:49,500 --> 01:04:53,300
No, what happened?
Well, you know, the thing is

988
01:04:53,300 --> 01:04:57,400
that with Netflix I think that
they got to the point where they

989
01:04:57,400 --> 01:05:00,100
thought that anything that they
put out, they were just going to

990
01:05:00,107 --> 01:05:03,200
get instantly, all of these
people watching the shows and

991
01:05:03,200 --> 01:05:06,200
then when the the they start
putting out more and more

992
01:05:06,200 --> 01:05:09,700
content and it's to the point
now where there's so much

993
01:05:09,700 --> 01:05:13,300
content that if you want to
watch like, say the top 10, it's

994
01:05:13,300 --> 01:05:15,600
going to take you all weekend
long, just to get through

995
01:05:15,600 --> 01:05:18,200
certain things and then other
things like say the Jeffrey

996
01:05:18,200 --> 01:05:20,600
Dahmer thing, sir.
Certain people, you know, like

997
01:05:20,600 --> 01:05:21,800
me.
I'll never watch it for the

998
01:05:21,800 --> 01:05:23,800
other people.
Like one of my friends, watched

999
01:05:23,800 --> 01:05:26,300
it twice.
I mean, they literally threw

1000
01:05:26,300 --> 01:05:30,500
stuff against the wall to see,
you know, what, they could do

1001
01:05:30,500 --> 01:05:33,200
and not do.
And I think that that's the

1002
01:05:33,200 --> 01:05:36,200
problem is that, like you like
the Winx Academy, you've had

1003
01:05:36,200 --> 01:05:39,700
chat, you've got shallow and
Bone, you've got the different

1004
01:05:40,000 --> 01:05:42,800
things, the different, the
letters for the king that got

1005
01:05:42,800 --> 01:05:45,400
one season.
I mean, Netflix, I think had a

1006
01:05:45,400 --> 01:05:49,300
had, a problem with putting out
too much, too fast and not.

1007
01:05:49,500 --> 01:05:53,100
Really letting people sort of
take their time and find their

1008
01:05:53,100 --> 01:05:55,800
way over to these different
shows because they've got a

1009
01:05:55,808 --> 01:05:59,600
significant amount of fantasy.
I mean stuff we don't even talk

1010
01:05:59,600 --> 01:06:03,600
about like Warrior none.
What was that really cool?

1011
01:06:03,600 --> 01:06:07,600
One, the will assassins, I mean
they got a lot of fantasy.

1012
01:06:07,700 --> 01:06:10,400
They really do, but none of it
last.

1013
01:06:10,700 --> 01:06:14,600
But I think was important to, I
think this was also to, like,

1014
01:06:14,600 --> 01:06:20,400
right at the beginning or right
before Netflix Did put it like

1015
01:06:20,700 --> 01:06:24,500
Netflix right now is one of the
biggest like they have one of

1016
01:06:24,500 --> 01:06:27,500
the biggest catalogs of original
programming, right?

1017
01:06:27,500 --> 01:06:30,400
And a lot of their stuff is
good, but I think maybe this

1018
01:06:30,400 --> 01:06:33,700
came in like, right before I
think you're right.

1019
01:06:33,700 --> 01:06:39,100
Yeah, that way, you know,
everybody was still doing and,

1020
01:06:39,100 --> 01:06:41,200
you know, this may have had
something to do with them being

1021
01:06:41,200 --> 01:06:44,900
counseled to.
Again, this came out this summer

1022
01:06:44,900 --> 01:06:50,200
that the pandemic right starts.
So you Still had a lot of

1023
01:06:50,200 --> 01:06:54,100
Productions who by November,
we're not filming.

1024
01:06:54,100 --> 01:06:58,600
And were, you know, if they were
filming, they were filming with

1025
01:06:58,800 --> 01:07:02,800
very skeletal Cruise.
You know, you still had limits

1026
01:07:02,800 --> 01:07:05,600
on how many people could be on
set.

1027
01:07:05,600 --> 01:07:09,300
So, I believe this show may have
been, you know, just kind of

1028
01:07:09,300 --> 01:07:13,000
falling victim to that as well.
Because it doesn't that's a real

1029
01:07:13,000 --> 01:07:14,900
big part of, you know, what was
going to happen.

1030
01:07:14,900 --> 01:07:17,900
This is true.
I think like this, and the

1031
01:07:17,900 --> 01:07:19,900
October faction were to show
Shows there.

1032
01:07:19,900 --> 01:07:22,400
Yeah yeah.
Got hit hard guy hit by the

1033
01:07:22,400 --> 01:07:24,800
pandemic.
Like they kind of just got cut

1034
01:07:24,900 --> 01:07:28,400
and sit by the wayside because
they had to short down what they

1035
01:07:28,400 --> 01:07:51,000
were doing was fire.
Those that they literally were

1036
01:07:51,000 --> 01:07:53,200
in the middle of covid and they
literally had a rush to get

1037
01:07:53,207 --> 01:07:55,700
everything done.
I mean, you could tell you know.

1038
01:07:55,707 --> 01:07:58,600
But now that we're we're, you
know, two and a half, three

1039
01:07:58,600 --> 01:08:01,000
years, you know, past the
initial stages.

1040
01:08:01,200 --> 01:08:05,000
I almost want to say if I was in
charge of Netflix, I would say.

1041
01:08:05,000 --> 01:08:07,600
Okay guys, we're finally, you
know, everyone's quote, unquote

1042
01:08:07,607 --> 01:08:09,600
back outside.
We're trying to get things back

1043
01:08:09,600 --> 01:08:11,000
to normal.
How about this?

1044
01:08:11,000 --> 01:08:17,000
How about we hold a contest for
like say the month of February,

1045
01:08:17,200 --> 01:08:20,800
whatever show too.
Three shows are the top ranking

1046
01:08:20,800 --> 01:08:24,500
shows that get the most viewers,
maybe we can talk to the people

1047
01:08:24,700 --> 01:08:27,200
and if they're not employed
elsewhere, maybe we can give

1048
01:08:27,200 --> 01:08:30,500
them a finale season.
I mean that would be kind of

1049
01:08:30,500 --> 01:08:31,800
cool to do.
You know?

1050
01:08:32,500 --> 01:08:36,000
Who shows what is that?
It's a cool concept.

1051
01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:39,500
But at the same time it's kind
of like like for this show for

1052
01:08:39,500 --> 01:08:41,500
curse.
I don't know if it will work

1053
01:08:41,500 --> 01:08:45,100
because one you've been out
almost three years now.

1054
01:08:45,100 --> 01:08:46,800
So the characters.
Yeah.

1055
01:08:47,000 --> 01:08:51,300
And you know, especially if
Ghani you've done other projects

1056
01:08:51,300 --> 01:08:54,100
for some people.
It's hard to come back to those

1057
01:08:54,100 --> 01:08:57,100
types of characters which you
know we see it.

1058
01:08:57,100 --> 01:09:00,500
It does happen.
Sometimes it happens in a good

1059
01:09:00,500 --> 01:09:02,399
way.
Sometimes not so good.

1060
01:09:02,399 --> 01:09:05,800
It's kind of like you kind of
just left that the way it was

1061
01:09:05,800 --> 01:09:09,200
and whatever momentum they had
is gone.

1062
01:09:09,700 --> 01:09:11,700
Yeah, that's true.
That's true.

1063
01:09:11,700 --> 01:09:15,000
Why I was just throwing stuff
out there, so but yeah, I just,

1064
01:09:15,000 --> 01:09:20,200
I just feel that like Fox back
in the day, Netflix has a

1065
01:09:20,207 --> 01:09:24,700
problem of canceling too soon
and then in hindsight they were

1066
01:09:24,700 --> 01:09:26,700
like, oh, I mean, because
they'll throw money at Adam

1067
01:09:26,700 --> 01:09:28,500
Sandler all day long.
Okay.

1068
01:09:28,800 --> 01:09:31,700
And oh, by the way, the murder
mystery with him and Jennifer

1069
01:09:31,700 --> 01:09:34,600
Aniston part 2 is coming out
this year, which is like, Yay.

1070
01:09:35,000 --> 01:09:37,100
But that was actually pretty
good.

1071
01:09:37,100 --> 01:09:43,200
The first one they, they're very
funny and as far as fancy cross

1072
01:09:43,200 --> 01:09:47,700
you know King Arthur Legends.
I mean there's been stuff that

1073
01:09:47,700 --> 01:09:52,300
I've seen that I know has been
You know, basically inspired by

1074
01:09:52,300 --> 01:09:55,700
it, we love time, you know?
Hmm.

1075
01:09:55,900 --> 01:09:59,400
You could tell that it's just,
it's one of our favorite things

1076
01:09:59,400 --> 01:10:01,700
and I'm kind of glad that we're
doing these doing these shows.

1077
01:10:01,700 --> 01:10:07,400
Because, you know, except you
know, the sad thing is that my

1078
01:10:07,400 --> 01:10:11,100
favorite book of the whole thing
is mr.

1079
01:10:11,100 --> 01:10:16,000
Van a lot, but because of the
writers personal history, I'm

1080
01:10:16,000 --> 01:10:19,500
sad that we can't delve into it
because if anyone really Ali

1081
01:10:19,500 --> 01:10:22,100
took some of the ideas and just
explore.

1082
01:10:22,100 --> 01:10:25,700
It was home.
Yeah that one of those like

1083
01:10:26,000 --> 01:10:28,800
there was a period.
I think during the pandemic

1084
01:10:28,800 --> 01:10:32,200
before we started the show and I
had reached out to people, I

1085
01:10:32,208 --> 01:10:34,600
just put a Facebook post.
I was like, okay.

1086
01:10:34,900 --> 01:10:38,300
So I've seen a lot of shows
dealing with Arthurian Legend

1087
01:10:38,300 --> 01:10:40,100
but I haven't read a lot of the
books.

1088
01:10:40,300 --> 01:10:43,400
I was like, okay, so what would
you suggest and that was the one

1089
01:10:43,400 --> 01:10:47,600
that got recommended the most
they were like, okay yeah so the

1090
01:10:47,600 --> 01:10:51,300
authors problematic You're going
to find that out like hella

1091
01:10:51,300 --> 01:10:56,200
problematic but it's one of the
best books about Arthurian

1092
01:10:56,200 --> 01:11:00,500
Legends that he did a heck of a
job writing that whole year I

1093
01:11:00,500 --> 01:11:06,800
mean just glued to those books
just glued you know yeah but I

1094
01:11:06,800 --> 01:11:14,400
mean I think you know I think it
can still be discussed as as the

1095
01:11:14,400 --> 01:11:18,000
work and we can still talk about
what trash the author is.

1096
01:11:18,000 --> 01:11:21,300
I mean that's it's one of the
things about discussing works

1097
01:11:21,300 --> 01:11:25,200
with problematic people.
It's one thing, if you kind of

1098
01:11:25,208 --> 01:11:28,500
ignore what the author, what the
artist is doing.

1099
01:11:28,500 --> 01:11:32,400
But if you say okay hey, yeah.
So we're going to talk about

1100
01:11:32,400 --> 01:11:35,700
this but please know this author
is trash or this person is

1101
01:11:35,700 --> 01:11:37,200
trash.
I don't know.

1102
01:11:37,200 --> 01:11:47,000
It's just, that's a great job.
Trying to trying to separate the

1103
01:11:47,000 --> 01:11:53,300
artist from the art The same
discussion we had about see who

1104
01:11:53,300 --> 01:11:57,600
will not be named who will not
be named yes you know had that

1105
01:11:57,600 --> 01:12:05,100
discussion and Robert who's
spending time in confinement

1106
01:12:05,100 --> 01:12:06,900
presently.
No one wants to listen to his

1107
01:12:06,900 --> 01:12:11,000
music anymore, but some people
still do, is this one of those

1108
01:12:11,000 --> 01:12:14,600
things you and they'll talk
about his piss me off.

1109
01:12:15,000 --> 01:12:18,600
You know what?
I think it's different for me is

1110
01:12:18,600 --> 01:12:21,400
different.
Aunt, discussing him and his

1111
01:12:21,400 --> 01:12:26,100
work as opposed to the others
because with she, who must not

1112
01:12:26,100 --> 01:12:31,200
be named and with the author for
Miss of Avalon, their personal

1113
01:12:31,200 --> 01:12:36,900
issues, and the things that they
are, you know, being problematic

1114
01:12:36,900 --> 01:12:40,700
for doesn't bleed into the work.
So, I think, for me, it'll be is

1115
01:12:46,500 --> 01:12:48,900
one of my favorite favorite
albums.

1116
01:12:48,900 --> 01:12:52,800
It The big number album in the
90s.

1117
01:12:53,000 --> 01:12:55,700
I can't listen to it now because
I'm like because of the

1118
01:12:55,700 --> 01:12:57,400
implication.
Yes.

1119
01:12:57,500 --> 01:13:00,700
So I can't I can't listen to it.
So that's I think it just

1120
01:13:00,700 --> 01:13:04,600
depends.
Like I said you can people can

1121
01:13:04,600 --> 01:13:09,100
have their work and it not
whatever they believe or

1122
01:13:09,100 --> 01:13:13,000
whatever they they've done.
It doesn't bleed into it, right?

1123
01:13:13,500 --> 01:13:16,300
Everything we talked about this
for me and I did my birthday

1124
01:13:16,300 --> 01:13:19,100
episode with battle beyond the
stars you go.

1125
01:13:19,300 --> 01:13:23,600
Go back far enough in time.
And even in modern history, you

1126
01:13:23,600 --> 01:13:26,700
didn't find a lot of things that
are going to be problematic.

1127
01:13:27,000 --> 01:13:31,300
Whether it be the artist, the
director of the words, you know,

1128
01:13:31,700 --> 01:13:35,900
and and and if there's nothing
wrong with taking a personal

1129
01:13:35,900 --> 01:13:39,200
stance against it is perfectly
fine.

1130
01:13:39,500 --> 01:13:42,500
This is well, it seems that we
sometimes have to think about.

1131
01:13:42,500 --> 01:13:46,400
Yeah, well and like I love I
love in his game but we're some

1132
01:13:46,400 --> 01:13:49,100
Scott Carl, exactly.
That's true.

1133
01:13:49,300 --> 01:13:51,500
Example, that's literally a
perfect example.

1134
01:13:51,500 --> 01:13:54,300
I am being freaking freaking HP.
Lovecraft is like.

1135
01:13:54,300 --> 01:14:00,100
Well yeah, well the thing is is
that if you know, we're talking

1136
01:14:00,100 --> 01:14:05,700
about the TV shows, movies
fiction, I mean the offshoot of

1137
01:14:05,700 --> 01:14:07,700
just the Arthur, we're talking
about with mr.

1138
01:14:07,700 --> 01:14:12,700
Val on her influence on, just
Mercedes Lackey, who's one of my

1139
01:14:12,700 --> 01:14:15,900
favorite writers, just the whole
valdemar's theories, the

1140
01:14:15,900 --> 01:14:20,500
Herald's, the the offshoot
series, The Al flight, With the,

1141
01:14:20,500 --> 01:14:24,200
the whole things with the the
paladins and the and the the

1142
01:14:24,500 --> 01:14:26,400
interior of the tower, it's just
Mage Wars.

1143
01:14:26,400 --> 01:14:30,100
I mean, you could clearly see a
direct influence between the

1144
01:14:30,100 --> 01:14:34,100
right of, of Mists of Avalon and
Misty, lackeys World building

1145
01:14:34,100 --> 01:14:36,300
that she did for valve, or it's
just a direct line.

1146
01:14:36,300 --> 01:14:39,300
I mean, even the new series
which they're doing to history

1147
01:14:39,300 --> 01:14:42,800
of valdemar it just you could
tell that it's all the tropes

1148
01:14:42,800 --> 01:14:46,200
for King either.
I mean, I can even go as far as

1149
01:14:46,200 --> 01:14:49,100
say that some of the things that
are in John.

1150
01:14:49,200 --> 01:14:51,800
Moscow's.
He's work with the last a jury

1151
01:14:51,800 --> 01:14:54,000
to infer knock.
Seriously just did I mean it's

1152
01:14:54,000 --> 01:14:57,100
all over the place because the
influence was.

1153
01:14:57,100 --> 01:15:03,300
So when I hate Shannara that
even that has elements of it,

1154
01:15:03,400 --> 01:15:10,000
you know I mean it's I think the
only one and I'm probably going

1155
01:15:10,000 --> 01:15:12,900
to take a hit for this.
I think the only one that

1156
01:15:12,900 --> 01:15:17,000
doesn't really have a Lord of
the Rings type of a theme would

1157
01:15:17,000 --> 01:15:20,700
be more of the Rings.
Or am I wrong?

1158
01:15:24,700 --> 01:15:27,400
What you're saying what I'm
saying?

1159
01:15:27,400 --> 01:15:29,800
That's interesting.
Yeah, I didn't say it.

1160
01:15:29,800 --> 01:15:33,400
Well sorry, it's okay.
Yeah.

1161
01:15:33,400 --> 01:15:36,200
But anyway, we getting off that
tangent.

1162
01:15:36,200 --> 01:15:41,700
Yeah, we're going to sit here
and discuss which shows films.

1163
01:15:42,300 --> 01:15:46,500
You know, we're going to discuss
over the next 11 months.

1164
01:15:47,400 --> 01:15:51,300
Again if you are listening and
you have some suggestions, what

1165
01:15:51,300 --> 01:15:55,800
Arthurian Legends are your
favorite tales and you know what

1166
01:15:55,800 --> 01:15:57,500
would you like to hear us
discuss?

1167
01:15:57,500 --> 01:16:01,300
And you know there may be a
couple of months where maybe we

1168
01:16:01,300 --> 01:16:04,700
won't focus on just one.
Maybe we'll take to like I said

1169
01:16:04,700 --> 01:16:09,300
there to King Arthur's on the
list and maybe we'll just watch

1170
01:16:09,300 --> 01:16:12,300
those and kind of compare
contrast, you know just to see

1171
01:16:12,300 --> 01:16:14,200
how different or how similar
they are.

1172
01:16:14,500 --> 01:16:17,400
But either way it goes we're
just going to have fun talking

1173
01:16:17,400 --> 01:16:20,400
about Arthurian Legends.
There's a lot of content out

1174
01:16:20,400 --> 01:16:25,300
there so we got a Figure out a
way to narrow it down to 11 but

1175
01:16:25,300 --> 01:16:28,200
I don't think we'll have too
much of a problem doing that,

1176
01:16:29,600 --> 01:16:31,600
you know what?
We'll see.

1177
01:16:31,700 --> 01:16:36,300
We'll see how it goes.
But I think that is going to be

1178
01:16:36,300 --> 01:16:41,000
it for our discussion of curse.
Like I said, it was a fun show

1179
01:16:41,300 --> 01:16:45,300
and it's nostalgic for us
because it was one of our first.

1180
01:16:46,500 --> 01:16:48,600
And yeah, it would have been
nice to see what they could do

1181
01:16:48,600 --> 01:16:51,600
with the second season but
unfortunately we won't get that.

1182
01:16:51,600 --> 01:16:53,600
So Got to move along to the next
one.

1183
01:16:53,600 --> 01:17:00,000
We know that Arthurian Legends
media is not anything that's

1184
01:17:00,000 --> 01:17:03,100
going to be lacking any time
soon.

1185
01:17:03,200 --> 01:17:07,900
You know, we've got lots to
choose from and there's probably

1186
01:17:07,900 --> 01:17:10,300
some, you know, projects coming
up.

1187
01:17:10,700 --> 01:17:13,100
So we'll kind of see how that
goes.

1188
01:17:13,100 --> 01:17:16,700
And like I said, we'll discuss
which ones we want to talk about

1189
01:17:16,700 --> 01:17:18,800
next.
But for now that is it for our

1190
01:17:18,800 --> 01:17:23,600
show, you can find us online at
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1191
01:17:23,600 --> 01:17:26,500
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1192
01:17:26,500 --> 01:17:28,800
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1193
01:17:28,800 --> 01:17:32,400
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1194
01:17:32,400 --> 01:17:34,600
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1195
01:17:34,600 --> 01:17:36,800
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1196
01:17:36,800 --> 01:17:38,500
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