The Wheel of Time S1E3 - Fandom Hybrid Podcast #223

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What's up hybrids?
Welcome back to another episode

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of The Phantom hybrid podcast.
This is hanako and I'm here with

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Anthony Lori and Mike and we are
discussing episode 3 of The

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Wheel of Time series and this
episode starts out pretty much

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picks up where we left off in
episode 2 episode 2, we see the

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9 AV is alive and well.
And so we get to see how she is

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alive and well, in the very
first part of this episode and

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I, I will say, if I don't know,
nothing else about nine days,

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character through the rest of
the season, I know that she is a

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badass because she took on at
rollicking, whoop its ass And he

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was Rambo like, she's, he
literally came out of the water

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like Rambo like, yeah, it's like
slowly coming up in like, you

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know, I say, I have inspector to
go.

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Like, you know, like wanna shit
but, yeah, she's of, yeah.

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I agree.
She isn't, she's a total badass,

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like I'm not fucking with her
and I think, I think, like,

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what's his name really wasn't
trying to mess with her either.

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Like, when she, he she had the
sword as though.

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She was kind of.
Like, all right, I got to talk

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my way out of this.
I don't think I can, that can

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mess with her unless I really
catch her off guard.

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Let me so she was like, she's
like on top of shit.

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I wasn't raised like fuck, dude.
And then when she threw that

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braid back Like, who else wants?
I was like, okay, so we have

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established that you are a
badass, okay?

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Then that first been foreseen
tells you everything you need to

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know about our needs character.
Yeah, she is.

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She is fearless.
She's clever.

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She will fight.
I mean, I was impressed with her

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because when we see her being
drugged, first of all, I was

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like, oh, okay.
So they didn't kill her, you

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know, well obviously, we know
this at the end of episode two,

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But really in the first episode,
when she got hit, I thought she

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was dead, you know.
So we see her being drugged, and

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then you have two chocolates who
were there, the Charlie Coos

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dragging her, and then there's
another one that's walking

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beside it.
And that one is obviously hurt.

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So her chalak drops, her goes
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speaking to other trolley.
And of course, there's no, I

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don't know if they actually
Speak in a way that we would

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understand but there's no kind
of, like, subtitles or anything.

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They're just talking.
And obviously, it's like, you

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can you can imagine the
conversation.

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One, dude is, like, yo, I'm real
hurt and other dude is like, but

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can you go on?
He's like, nah, I don't know if

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I can do it.
Oh, okay, sure, no, no, see.

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It was really like one.
Dude was like, yo, I'm really

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hurt noses.
Like you are really hungry just

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like, hey, what in this cold?
His friend and I was like you

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know and it's funny because I
was re-watching this and I'm

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also editing one of mine in case
he's walking dead World Beyond

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episodes from the late fall.
You not have several episodes

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that I'm working on like trying
to get out the backlog and we

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were talking about the Walkers
and you know like the live

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people and how if you're in a
situation for so long.

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That might end up being what
happens, the whole cannibalism

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thing and I was like, so I'm
dealing with this on two shows

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now.
Okay.

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All right what the fuck do I
watch?

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Like really you just gonna eat
your boy because whatever?

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I guess he was like okay well
let's not let this go to waste

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or so I don't know that was
really and I named it was like

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oh that's how you do your
friends.

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Let me get the hell up out of
here and she's takes off running

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now.
Now here's the thing about her

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running away from him.
And this is what I noticed in a

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lot of shows movies, whatever,
why y'all gotta wrong with your

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mouth, open, you think they
don't hear you.

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If you need to need oxygen, you
had a gold box of Jeannie.

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And if you're running you can't
be trying to breathe through

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your nose and run.
You know what?

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If I have to choose between
being in pain, breathing through

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my nose and being in pain?
Letting this chalak, take my

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intestines out, so he can have
dessert.

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No, I'm yeah.
Well, the key is EC mean, I have

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known this but then the trial
against were trying to capture

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her.
Not kill her.

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So That that, that would you
know she probably didn't know

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that.
Well, plus plus.

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She had just she had just gotten
back to being conscious so she

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probably wasn't no condition to
be running.

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Anyway, like she was because she
just got dragged from her

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Village to some distant part of
woods.

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So there's there's no telling
like they she has no wind.

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Like she literally is like sure
she had plenty of time to rest

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and catch up.
You do her head her.

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So she's probably in pain or
poor Scout.

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Bless her heart.
You wake up?

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The staff has heard, you're
cold.

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You got these big ugly monsters,
eating each other, get up and

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fucking read this, right?
Okay, so we should at least take

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a trip.
So what you just said ties into

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something?
That was said later on in the

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episode.
So I'm a remember that, ask?

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Yes, yes, she did.
No, but she did, but she didn't

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trip and get caught again.
Oh, Like, you know, like a

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hardship like and my daughter
was like, girl you better dip

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your head?
I said well, that that's a hot

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spring.
She was like, oh so I know she

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was trying to keep her head
above that water like huh and as

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soon as he got close she was
like all right let me get up

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under here and then when he
started like stabbing I was like

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Okay, so where did she go?
Cuz it's not like she could have

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gotten up without him hearing
her?

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I was really confused.
I was like, wait, how deep is

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that spring?
Yeah, it's like the size of it.

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It's not about hot tub like
this.

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You when she's swimming around
his legs out, how does she not

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bump into him?
She stays against the wall

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because he used to having in the
middle.

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Yeah, he just stay the against
the wall while he was still in a

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hot tub like like a 4x4, hot
tub.

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I mean, I don't think I'll have
a response.

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She's naive.
I mean it.

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Okay, he's Rambo.
I mean, just, let's just start

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the episode off establishing
that she is badass.

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Oh, okay.
That's what we're doing.

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Okay.
All right.

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So we see, she's badass and now
she's got Land by throat and I'm

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just looking like I really, I
think I said this in the first

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episode So, or was it the end of
lap that the end of the last

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episode?
I was like, I can see a fight

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between them, but no, I ship
them.

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Like even at this point, I
shipped them and I will go ahead

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and say, I know what happens in
the rest of the series or at the

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rest of the season.
I don't know if that's going to

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be an actual ship, but it's
obvious.

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There's like Some strong
attraction there and I'm here

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for it.
I'm here for it.

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That's all I'm going to say.
So anyway I shipped him with her

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more than I should have him with
meringue.

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I just I don't I don't really
feel more as more of a more of

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an authority figure than a
potential love interest.

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It's like she's she's his boss
is there's the really no chance

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even when they got into the hot
springs together.

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It's like you're like Okay,
whatever thing ain't shit going

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to happen between them because
he's more of a, she's more of

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his boss.
It's like, like I'm like, you

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just are just like and whatever
this is good.

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We're just conserving energy.
I don't look at it, I don't see

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it as like a and
employee-employer relationship

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in that sense like yes I do know
that she is the I guess you

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could say she's in charge and in
that whole situation, but I

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never get that ass, you know, I
never get that that I don't get

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that vibe from her as far as how
she views him you know when you

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see other characters who are
paired with other people who

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they are, obviously the
superior.

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A lot of them, make it known
that.

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Hey, I'm your Superior.
I don't get that vibe from her,

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I get a Vibe of.
There's a lot of trust there.

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There's a lot of respect there
and there is some kind of

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emotional connection even though
I don't think it's really in

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that sense, you know it's not.
Yeah, I see what you're saying,

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but I really, I mean, did.
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There's there's not, maybe
there's not a boss like

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relationship between them but
there's definitely a platonic

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relationship.
There's no.

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Like I don't think there's
really a chance of them even

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though I don't think they think
of each other like that thing

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because they have set roles in
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Like she's she's who she is,
he's who he is, and that's it.

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And they're just and they're
good with those roles.

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Well, I'm just saying as far as
the eye I said I and the waters

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knowing that that that
relationship can Encompass.

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Any type of bond you've been on
the road with somebody for two

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years looking for these people
who are who are supposed to be

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the dragon reborn y'all don't
really?

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Yeah, I don't really associate
with anybody else.

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There, there was something
happening there and maybe once,

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maybe tell your things on
Anthony.

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Never really nope.
Okay not ever.

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So what you're saying is like,
you know, they could be like a

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you know, slip into hip every
now and then but it's like I

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just did.
I don't see that kind of

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Chemistry Between them?
Like I see between him and I

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need like, I could definitely
like with the attention that

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they have between each other.
I could definitely see that

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before.
I can see him and hurt him and I

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wasn't it.
I can't.

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I just can't This is one of
those situations for me were

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it's really hard to separate
what I know about them in the

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book from how the, on the show.
But it's more like a therapist,

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patient relationship.
You know, and he's sort of like

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the patient that is providing a
service for his like a

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bodyguard.
It's really interesting type of

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relationship.
Okay?

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I I can see, I can see that.
I can see that.

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So okay, be a nom de.
I'm just joking.

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I'm, you know, I'm just being
silly but it's like, you know,

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everything everything that we
watch, you know, people are

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always trying to pair people up
like okay, these are two main

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characters in this band, they're
supposed to be together.

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And it's like, sometimes it just
don't go, I'm hoping that's not

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the direction they were trying
to go with this show.

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As far as like those two being
together, just companionship.

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Why?
Wise and then you know, with the

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hot tub saying, I'm hoping that
was just the kind of like put

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the filler out there but just to
put it out there and not really

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Hood to like cement anything
because I just I don't see

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that's no those are those are
Spencer's for women that wanted

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to see his body.
That's just sit like I'm not mad

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at all.
They're also trying to show the

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closeness of water and the acid.
I Without actually trying to

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explain it.
Okay.

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Okay.
Kind of do later.

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But, you know, at the jump they
just want to do kind of a real

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quick thing so they can move
forward.

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So yeah.
What's the best way to put that?

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Yeah, let's put them to in a
bathtub together.

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Okay?
Naked together.

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But actually no romance.
No sex, no, no, I get it, I get

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it nuf s'ti me.
Altered?

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Yeah, I did it.
I get it.

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But okay, let's go on to the for
because you know, we have our

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group that splinter because of
Matt's dumbass you know, actions

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and shot should look up.
Okay, yeah, I don't know why

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those two words together, it's
so weird trying to put them

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together for me.
I don't know why but so you have

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mad and ran And they're
traveling over the mountains,

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trying to meet up with egwene
and parent.

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And when a parent are kind of
going through the woods and

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going through, like Open Fields,
but they're all separated,

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they're all, you know, kind of
showing their own doubts with

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everything.
And I think this is where you

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for me, this is where you start
to really see the personalities

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of the people that they are.
Because even though egwene and

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ran are not together as a couple
right now, you still see that

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there's a strong connection for
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But it's interesting because
Rand is the one who is like, no

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we have to go East because
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And he, I feel like he's so
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Sure of who she is.
Then she isn't who he is, you

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know what I'm saying?
Because she was the type that

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was like, know, they would go
home and Perón was like, he

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ain't going home cause you ain't
going home and he knows you're

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not going home, so he's not
going home.

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It's just one of those things
where you kind of you kind of

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see like How strong those bonds
are between all of them like

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random at, you know, even though
they were introduced as best

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friends in the first episode or
that was kind of the idea.

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I got of them.
You see the things are not all

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that great between them and I
don't know if that's part of the

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Shadows, the the Shadows
influence from Matt touching the

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blade or Mac carrying the blade
because he still has the blade,

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right?
Yeah, yes, yeah.

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So, I don't know if that has to
do with that Darkness

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influencing him, or if he's
always felt kind of, like,

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overshadowed by Rand, or
something like that, but you get

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to see a lot of that in this
episode, like, Rand is really

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trying to keep his spirits up.
He's trying to keep Matt spirits

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up.
He's joking with him.

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Like, yeah, we just went through
this really traumatic thing, but

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I'm going to try to keep us in
a, you know, in a good place and

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Matt is the one that's being
like such.

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Dick, and I'm just like dude
what is your problem?

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I don't know.
Matt, Matt, I think I ranted

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about this before, but the one
thing that I don't like about

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the show is how they've done
man's character because this

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characterization of Matt is not
how using a book.

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He's not dark and brooding and
emo like he is in the show.

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He's much more lighthearted and
he's mature.

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He's much more even even in the
darkest of times he still is

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Making snide comments and very
very snarky and funny and witty

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here.
He's just just, just go away

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dude and just go away.
I don't like him at all.

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I still see some of that
snarkiness in him, but it does,

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it is mean-spirited.
But that's why I'm saying, I

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wonder if that's the the
darkness coming off the blade.

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That's kind of getting into him.
Making him be a little bit more.

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It's kind of, like, with Ron
Hermione and Harry with the

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horcrux.
You know, time They Carried the

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horcrux a part of Voldemort's
Soul was kind of corrupting them

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a little bit.
I kind of get the feeling the

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blade is doing that too.
Well since you brought that up,

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did you hear the theory about?
Because here was a horcrux

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that's the reason why the
dursleys treated him the way

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they did was they were being
influenced by him as a horcrux

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the nurse least.
Were just asshole.

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Well, at least Vernon dursley,
and petunia was just following

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behind her, her husband, because
you saw when they got ready to

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leave, privet drive, and it was
just her and Harry.

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She had a little bit of just a
little bit of not necessarily

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niceness, but civil - towards
him.

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But yeah, let's yeah.
Okay, but yeah, but I think it

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feels like the they made met.
Like this because you say, you

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saw a little bit of, in the
first episode.

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I kind of a little bit, but he
was still breathing and dark and

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that very happy.
He didn't seem I made.

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Well, I mean, if you think about
it in the first episode, he was

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sitting in the town watching his
father flirt, with other women,

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while his mother was standing
there watching and him as their

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child at their watch.
It, I wasn't being a good mood,

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My point, they're going to show
the showed him like that in the

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beginning because they're going
to make a point about the knife

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already.
Bringing out the darkness in

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him.
I so by starting him out as a

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level where, okay, we already
recognize and see that he has a

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little bit of darkness in him,
then it's not going to be hard

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for us to accept that the knife
medium dark because if you start

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him out his light-hearted which
there's no book, then he gets

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the knife.
If he starts taking his turn to

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head, add the condensed
everything down for for us to

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understand these characters.
The same reason why they gave

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parent or wife and had him kill
her because they don't have the

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time to show us that.
He's just an introspective

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person who keeps himself in
everything is internal, okay.

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So they had to give us a reason.
So the same thing, when Matt

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they had to give us a reason to
think.

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Okay.
Well yeah, of course the knife

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is going to make him dark.
He already had some darkness in

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him and the knife attached to
that Darkness.

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So I can see why they did it
that way.

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I just don't like it.
I saw it a little bit different

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whenever there's a group of
friends close.

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Friends growing up, you always
have a kid have a role or

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position, so to speak.
So you've got the kid who

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doesn't have a mom, that you
know that that's ran.

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You've got the, you've got the
kid who's got a little bit more

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money that's going to parents on
the tavern.

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You've got the kid who sort of
stands out a little bit

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different.
That's apparently you've got the

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kid who may not have as much
money enough as much opportunity

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but they're still part of the
group and they kind of ignore

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that they have to give them a
sandwich at lunch was, he

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doesn't have lunch money, that's
kind of the vibe I get from the

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show about him, but from the
book and he's right.

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It's totally different.
It's it's more like they have

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to, like the characters.
There's so much inner monologue

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in that first book with the
characters that they had to

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translate it in a way that was
believable.

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Quick for the TV series.
Okay.

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So that's just the two cents.
Did anybody notice that, that

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Matt is actually getting more
gone and drawn and like darker,

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the more Discerning like, like,
like the like like, you know

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it's just the Trope that you
know, you're carrying you carry

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a dark object and it starts
draining the life force from

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you, like is actually starting
to do it with him.

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So I think that has bad as that
probably has a lot to do with

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his with how he is too.
I mean because like We were

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we've never seen that happen to
anybody.

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Any book ever before?
Never absolutely.

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I mean, we know that, you know,
Bill ball Frodo.

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We've never seen anything.
The dark object.

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Yeah.
Yeah.

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It's like, you know, I mean,
well, I mean what, who would

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expect that if you pick up
something that calls to you and

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that you feel a part of it that
it would take part of you with

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it?
I mean, they that's

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preposterous.
What is the thing that mrs.

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Weasley said regarding Tom
Riddle's, Diary she said, never.

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What was it?
Never pick up.

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Something, if you don't never
never listen to something that

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speaks to you, if you can't see
where it keeps his brain.

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She said something to that fat,
like if there's a object calling

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to you and you'd like, no, you
run, you leave that shit alone.

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But if it's something is calling
to you, that doesn't have legs

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arms or a mouth.
This no, no, no, no, it's a

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waste of time.
So, Mickey was okay in Fantasia

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with The Walking broomsticks, a
stick.

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Did you see how that turned out?
No, he was not.

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Okay, no.
Oh, well, that's true.

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But see, here's the thing.
I believe, truly that the way

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that this was set up with these
characters, it is a classic DND

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dragonlance, you know, they meet
at the end and they go on their

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Adventure type of a thing which
we see in all fantasy books.

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But what makes us Effort is that
Robert Jordan created it just

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different enough that you're
hooked, but you're not hooked.

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Like you would say for Shannara,
you're hooked in a way where

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you're like, I actually want to
see where this is going,

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granted, like I said in the
first episode, they shortened

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some things because it took ran
instead 14 days to get town and

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took him another five days to
get back to town but that's your

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story.
I love this this this whole

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concept of the kids each being
Distinct personalities.

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And I like the way that the
pairing is our when they pair

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off because if I was writing
this, I would have switched some

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characters to have certain
people go certain ways, but the

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way that they have it, you know,
you get the setup of the gleamin

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right?
And that's exciting.

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And that's going to be
interesting and I know that's

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going to have some stuff
hopefully later on down the

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line.
But the configuration of how

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they split is interesting,
meaning the Tinkers and and oh,

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and and stuff like that.
So yeah, it's kind of cool.

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I like the Of the tankers
because anytime I can see Maria

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Doyle Kennedy on my screen, I'm
happy.

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I love her as I live, I mean,
but she's like, I can't think of

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anything that, you know, like
any of my shows that I've like,

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really, really like the last few
years where she hasn't appeared

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in, she was in the tutor she was
in Downton Abbey, she was an

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orphan black, she was in, she's
an Outlander, she's in this.

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I know I'm forgetting something
from the last couple of years,

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but she's like, all over the
place and I loved it.

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When I saw on the screen, I was
like, Yay cuz I didn't even know

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she was going to be in this
show.

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But yeah, well, we'll talk about
the Tinkers later because

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they're interesting Bunch.
They're very interesting Bunch

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but um, I think one of the
interesting things, you know, I

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didn't think about this until
Lori said it when we were

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discussing the last episode and
now it's all I can think about

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pairing being a werewolf like
there.

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We service there is opposite.
My bells wolves looked like or

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they sounded like, they were
going to attack him and egwene

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and all they were doing was
pushing them out of the forest

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and pushing them on the path
that they needed to go.

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Because as soon as they got them
out, like all of the yapping and

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all of the chasing after them
stopped and they said that the

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far as like, you're welcome, you
know, I'm I mean, it's like,

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look at like this.
There's no chance in hell that

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pairing with a hurt leg and
egwene being egwene.

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We're going to outrun a pack of
wolves.

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Where does that mean?
Not quite being and Wayne?

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What does that comment mean?
She's a small woman who take

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small steps.
Woes.

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She's cheap.
You, you think she can outrun a

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pack of wolves?
Do you think she can outrun a

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pack of wolves?
I've been, no, no, she can't.

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It has nothing.
Has nothing to do with her

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powers and then to her as a
person.

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She's a small Listen with small
legs and can't run fast.

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Gonna get caught.
She's gonna get Gil Devers.

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A small will move his small
dicks and seek it out right now.

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We're not seeing right now.
You could you gonna make me

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puke?
We're gonna start taking this

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into an entirely different level
that we don't need to take it to

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his initiative.
Picked up his bed.

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Like I won't step on this beer
instead of tea.

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Look, man, I'm saying to the
puck She could not outrun a pack

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of wolves.
That's my point.

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And and parents still has a hurt
leg and was going to do, he's

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going to outrun them fall down
the Devil comes because lady be

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like, all right, get up again.
Donkey braying those who still

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have a her leg.
We haven't seen that leg lately.

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I mean, I might need the war
feel it.

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You probably don't know it after
you after licking it and like

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little.
But it's like, yes it's yeah.

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It just goes back to like him
actually being able to talk to

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the animals.
He's basically dr.

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Dolittle now it's like you He
can do you think he knows what

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they're saying and he knows
which way to run.

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Because you notice when they
were running, he was like, wait,

442
00:26:41,300 --> 00:26:43,500
we have to go this way.
It's like the Wolves were

443
00:26:43,500 --> 00:26:45,600
telling him, like they're
running wrong way, and there,

444
00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:48,800
when they were growling and
yelping at him, he was like, oh

445
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:50,100
shit.
No, no, we have to go this way

446
00:26:50,300 --> 00:26:52,800
and he switched Direction like
in the middle of them running.

447
00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:56,500
So then that's how it doesn't
hundred percent him being able

448
00:26:56,500 --> 00:27:00,000
to tell that which way he needed
to go and probably getting help

449
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:03,500
from the Wolves but was it was
weird about it, too, like I'm

450
00:27:03,500 --> 00:27:04,900
not in bracelet, I'm not, I'm
not.

451
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,900
Not know, I know this is what
probably happened.

452
00:27:07,900 --> 00:27:11,000
But, no, I mean, northern it
just didn't look, he's he's just

453
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:15,500
like the great Michael J fox in
the, in the Epic Movie Teen Wolf

454
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:18,600
where he gets the powers, but he
just doesn't know what to do

455
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:20,900
with them and he does know how
to accept them.

456
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:23,700
It's like, you know it's only a
matter of time.

457
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:27,400
See, I can't even think that far
back because it's been so long

458
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:31,600
since I've seen that Teen Wolf.
I think Scott McCall and Tyler

459
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:35,900
Posey right there for you, Mike.
They voted for you.

460
00:27:35,900 --> 00:27:38,200
Yeah.
And Rob's of the podcast for

461
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:40,900
beating me to a Teen Wolf
reference.

462
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:47,000
That's what I'm here for.
But I mean, I still think that

463
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:50,400
he if he's not a werewolf, he
just had the bite or whatever

464
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:52,800
happened to him.
Has given him has given him an

465
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:55,600
innate sense to communicate with
animals, and figure out what's

466
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:58,200
going on with him.
So, so we're safe, don't don't

467
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:00,800
feed the B, did it?
No, listen.

468
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:08,700
Okay, if he's not a werewolf,
I'm just throwing this out there

469
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:13,300
if he's not a werewolf than he
could possibly be sensitive, he

470
00:28:13,300 --> 00:28:19,400
could be some sort of person who
has affinity for animals that

471
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:22,700
can speak and communicate.
You know the animals, you know,

472
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,900
all Aquaman.
I it could be anything, you

473
00:28:25,900 --> 00:28:28,900
know.
But it's like it's like Antonia

474
00:28:28,900 --> 00:28:30,700
one encounter you encounter.
Yeah.

475
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:36,600
I haven't seen that movie.
I'm not going to confirm nor

476
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:39,000
deny whether or not he's
werewolf.

477
00:28:39,700 --> 00:28:41,500
But I will reiterate, what I
said.

478
00:28:41,500 --> 00:28:45,200
The last time we talked about
this show, remember how authors

479
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:49,600
and writers have different
interpretations of what a

480
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:53,900
werewolf is.
True and I would just keep that

481
00:28:53,900 --> 00:28:55,400
in mind.
Okay?

482
00:28:56,200 --> 00:29:00,200
But I am not saying that he
didn't get bit right here.

483
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:03,400
That's attached, was from the
chalak strong despite okay,

484
00:29:03,500 --> 00:29:09,600
okay, that's what I thought.
Okay, yeah II, I say he's

485
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:12,600
sensitive and can can
communicate.

486
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:17,600
That's what I say?
Because like I said, we have

487
00:29:17,900 --> 00:29:21,000
with all the different magical
systems that were we see with

488
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,300
the ice die.
And this and that don't you

489
00:29:23,300 --> 00:29:26,800
think that if there was some
sort of werewolf type of a

490
00:29:27,100 --> 00:29:30,000
creature that was long-standing
they would know about it.

491
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:35,100
I mean you know I mean we're
still only three episodes in so

492
00:29:35,300 --> 00:29:40,300
who's not to say that long who
might show up later on, remember

493
00:29:40,300 --> 00:29:45,400
the breaking of the world was
3,000 years ago, a lot of

494
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:50,100
knowledge, a lot of things were
lost when the breaking happened.

495
00:29:50,100 --> 00:29:53,500
The breaking took place over
over a hundred years or so.

496
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:58,000
A lot of things was like we're
lost is literally like if

497
00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:01,900
everything that we have now, and
we're plunged into caveman

498
00:30:01,900 --> 00:30:05,200
times, like that's what they had
left after the breaking.

499
00:30:07,900 --> 00:30:11,100
Many things, a lot of knowledge
was lost.

500
00:30:12,500 --> 00:30:16,500
And I'm just going to, I'm going
to say this, and I don't really

501
00:30:16,500 --> 00:30:20,600
think this is a spoiler.
But you remember in Game of

502
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:25,400
Thrones when the Dragons Were
awakened?

503
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:30,500
It caused a lot of other magic
to start.

504
00:30:30,500 --> 00:30:37,200
It's as if magic had returned.
So in the will of time, the

505
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:42,400
dragon has been Reborn.
The final battle is upon us.

506
00:30:42,700 --> 00:30:45,400
We are nearing the end of an
age.

507
00:30:46,700 --> 00:30:51,000
So the wheel is putting things
in place that needs to be in

508
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:55,800
place for the final battle to be
a fair fight.

509
00:30:56,200 --> 00:31:01,100
Okay.
Okay, so the wheel has now, spun

510
00:31:01,100 --> 00:31:07,500
out not one to viren but 52
variant, which is V which is

511
00:31:07,500 --> 00:31:12,200
never happened before, right?
So we have five two viren and

512
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:15,200
they're all very different.
Also, remember the any man who

513
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:18,700
could channel was destroyed or
killed.

514
00:31:18,700 --> 00:31:22,700
What if a man wasn't channeling,
what if he was something else?

515
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:28,900
And he was killed because he had
an affinity.

516
00:31:28,900 --> 00:31:31,300
Let's call it that for a
particular animal.

517
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:37,700
So the will has now I'm
basically I'm saying things that

518
00:31:37,700 --> 00:31:40,300
were gone have sort of returned,
right?

519
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:42,800
The hasn't been very powerful
acid.

520
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:48,100
I know that I served out or
current, I said that his

521
00:31:48,100 --> 00:31:52,200
powerful as any of the ice that
for 3000 years ago, none of

522
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:54,000
them.
They don't even come close.

523
00:31:54,200 --> 00:32:00,500
Okay then nowhere near even
omelet, none of them you can put

524
00:32:00,500 --> 00:32:03,300
three or four of them together
and they're not even as powerful

525
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:08,200
as one of the least powerful
acts that I the time, 3,000

526
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:10,800
years ago.
So all these things are starting

527
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:13,000
to come back.
So there are things that are

528
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:19,100
lost people who may have other
types of powers, they aren't

529
00:32:19,300 --> 00:32:23,300
related to challenge.
Okay, I have returned because

530
00:32:23,300 --> 00:32:25,000
they're needed.
His final battle.

531
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:27,200
Okay.
Yes.

532
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:31,000
Having said that.
What if the the the guy that got

533
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:34,200
killed that they were chasing in
the first episode?

534
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:38,100
What if he wasn't like see
wasn't Dragonborn, maybe he

535
00:32:38,300 --> 00:32:42,800
maybe he got blessed with the
gift of baby talking to the dead

536
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:46,500
or talking to like the spirit
world like us do because he was

537
00:32:46,500 --> 00:32:48,300
alone.
He was running alone but he

538
00:32:48,300 --> 00:32:50,900
thought he was running with
somebody and he was talking to

539
00:32:50,900 --> 00:32:53,000
somebody and they were guiding
him.

540
00:32:53,100 --> 00:32:56,200
So is it?
So did he get a like a gift of

541
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:59,700
talking to us communicating with
the spirit world or think

542
00:32:59,700 --> 00:33:02,700
something like that?
Just like Perrin can talk to

543
00:33:02,700 --> 00:33:06,200
animals and Matt can pick up
stuff that he's not supposed to

544
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:10,700
pick up and ran kid brand, Koran
can brewed moodily and almost

545
00:33:10,700 --> 00:33:12,500
got himself killed all the time.
No.

546
00:33:12,700 --> 00:33:15,300
Very very colossal.
Knock down the door that

547
00:33:15,300 --> 00:33:19,300
technically speaking, he would
not have been able to knock down

548
00:33:19,300 --> 00:33:21,200
so yeah, can't wait to get that
part.

549
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:24,000
Yeah, yeah, okay.
So you're right.

550
00:33:24,100 --> 00:33:28,700
Because one thing I told you
before, remind on, do nothing

551
00:33:28,700 --> 00:33:31,400
and talk about it, but women
cannot see me and channel.

552
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:36,300
So the has to be other things
that they look for to find a man

553
00:33:36,300 --> 00:33:39,700
that can Channel sofa man is
doing something weird like,

554
00:33:39,900 --> 00:33:42,900
talking to spirits.
That looks like he's going

555
00:33:42,900 --> 00:33:44,800
crazy.
So he must be a Channeler.

556
00:33:44,900 --> 00:33:48,000
Well, he might be a necromancer
and don't know, and they don't

557
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:49,900
know what that is.
So they're gonna kill him

558
00:33:49,900 --> 00:33:51,900
anyway.
Right, well, this, why didn't

559
00:33:51,900 --> 00:33:54,600
that this?
That's why when of the Rules is

560
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:57,800
they have to go before the
ominous seat for a trial because

561
00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:01,100
that way they can determine
whether or not he's channeling,

562
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:03,700
okay?
Because if it is possible that

563
00:34:03,700 --> 00:34:07,600
he isn't channeling and he's a
something weird and strange and

564
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:12,300
they have to let him go.
Okay, another question that I

565
00:34:12,308 --> 00:34:16,800
want to ask kind of get moving
into a different part of the

566
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:23,199
show, so More rains injury to
her shoulder.

567
00:34:23,900 --> 00:34:25,199
I don't remember how that
happened.

568
00:34:25,199 --> 00:34:27,900
I mean, I know it was during the
battle with the tropics but did

569
00:34:27,900 --> 00:34:31,000
she get like did she get stabbed
with something?

570
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:34,300
This should get clogged.
She got stabbed okay and it went

571
00:34:34,300 --> 00:34:35,699
through her.
Yes.

572
00:34:35,699 --> 00:34:39,600
Okay because I was trying to
figure out if she got injured by

573
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:43,600
a trollop and parent also got
injured by a child like why was

574
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:48,100
her so much worse than his.
But if it went through then yet

575
00:34:48,100 --> 00:34:53,400
probably penetrated his Out
through muscle and skin and

576
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:56,000
bone.
And if I remember hearing got

577
00:34:56,000 --> 00:35:01,400
clawed, okay, they don't poison
their claws, but their poison

578
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:04,000
their weapons.
Got you, okay?

579
00:35:04,500 --> 00:35:07,800
That makes sense to me because I
was trying to just route, like

580
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:12,600
why was Moraine like in this
particular episode?

581
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:16,600
She's damn near comatose.
Yeah, she's gonna put the the

582
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:19,400
trolley poisoning poisoned are
their weapons.

583
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:23,000
Okay, okay.
And then my name is tries to,

584
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:29,700
you know, she she puts together
a poultice to put on her and it

585
00:35:29,700 --> 00:35:33,600
seems to help a little bit but
nowhere near what she needs.

586
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:39,600
So, you know, I I don't know,
it's kind of one of those things

587
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:43,000
is like, you know, you talk
about the wheel and how it does

588
00:35:43,100 --> 00:35:46,100
how it kind of, I guess
influences things that happen in

589
00:35:46,100 --> 00:35:50,900
this life.
And I feel like, Even though the

590
00:35:50,900 --> 00:35:55,700
circumstances were a little bit
weird, I would say, you know,

591
00:35:55,700 --> 00:35:59,400
49a to like all of a sudden,
find them, even though they have

592
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:03,000
been traveling for, who knows
how long she was still able to

593
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:06,600
find them and not only find
them, but she was the one person

594
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,900
who was able to put together
something that could, at least

595
00:36:09,900 --> 00:36:13,800
help Moran until they got her
where they needed her to be,

596
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:17,600
which was, as we saw at the end
of the episode amongst other.

597
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:22,100
I said I, but I was just like,
oh, so was that?

598
00:36:22,100 --> 00:36:26,600
Because my name chose to go.
There was something influencing

599
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:29,200
her to follow them and do all
this.

600
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:34,000
So it's like, I'm looking at it
all in different, you know, from

601
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,200
remember.
Remember else will he or she

602
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:38,700
says she tracked land.
She tracked them.

603
00:36:39,300 --> 00:36:43,100
But from, from a book readers
perspective.

604
00:36:43,100 --> 00:36:46,500
Remember, I was telling you to
Varian since they've already

605
00:36:46,500 --> 00:36:49,500
saved the village of Aaron, they
have a pool towards each other.

606
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:51,700
Right?
And you're going to be able to

607
00:36:51,707 --> 00:36:54,300
find them eventually.
And yeah, because I think it's

608
00:36:54,300 --> 00:36:57,600
obvious from this episode that
she's the, she's the fit

609
00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:01,200
severan, you know, we were only
told about four and then we've

610
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:07,200
been hearing about a fifth one
and even Dana who Randon Matt

611
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:10,200
come across in the in the town
that they visit.

612
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:16,000
She says, I dream of you and I
dream of you all five of you,

613
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:19,400
five of you.
And Matt was like five, like who

614
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:23,000
Who is, who else is supposed to
be joining this Elite group?

615
00:37:23,300 --> 00:37:26,800
But yeah, I think it's pretty
obvious that that fifth one is

616
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:31,000
probably not naive.
So, yeah.

617
00:37:31,500 --> 00:37:35,200
Okay, it just made me, look at
things a little bit differently,

618
00:37:35,300 --> 00:37:38,300
you know, going back and
watching it another time and

619
00:37:38,300 --> 00:37:39,800
just kind of, you know, how it
is.

620
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:42,900
You watch it the first time to
watch it and then like, when you

621
00:37:42,900 --> 00:37:46,500
watch it a second time, you
watch it to pick up the things

622
00:37:46,500 --> 00:37:50,400
that you miss the first time
especially now That we've been

623
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:55,000
discussing it having a little
more information about just the

624
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:59,300
the characters and how things
work in that world being able to

625
00:37:59,300 --> 00:38:02,300
kind of pick things now say, oh
okay.

626
00:38:02,300 --> 00:38:04,800
I'm looking at this in a
different light because other

627
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:06,800
than that, I would have just
been like oh, she's skilled

628
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:08,600
tracker.
Okay, cool.

629
00:38:08,900 --> 00:38:12,100
But she's a wisdom.
That's not that's not something

630
00:38:12,100 --> 00:38:16,300
that they necessarily do, right?
Wisdoms are supposed to be like

631
00:38:16,300 --> 00:38:19,500
the healers in the, the wise
people.

632
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:22,900
Well, you usually get trackers
from like the soldiers or the

633
00:38:22,900 --> 00:38:26,800
Fighting Man are like I would
have, I would think that ran was

634
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:30,400
probably be a good tracker,
parent might be a good track,

635
00:38:30,500 --> 00:38:36,400
you know.
But I name That was kind of new,

636
00:38:36,700 --> 00:38:41,800
but, you know, yeah, if she's if
she's also tracking them or

637
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:44,600
feeling that pool towards them
than that, will make a lot more

638
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:46,100
sense.
Yeah.

639
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:49,400
And also the Healer part of it
one.

640
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:55,200
Again, not really a spoiler but
well, nevermind it is.

641
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:59,200
Forget, I said anything.
Oh, never mind.

642
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,600
We'll talk about it later.
Okay, we'll talk about later.

643
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:07,300
So yeah, let's let's talk about
And Matt going to this town, I

644
00:39:07,300 --> 00:39:12,100
can't remember what the name of
the town is, but I thought it

645
00:39:12,100 --> 00:39:16,200
was two words.
I meant to write it down but you

646
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:19,700
know, I, I start to write things
down when I'm watching and then

647
00:39:19,700 --> 00:39:21,300
I get so engrossed in watching
that.

648
00:39:21,300 --> 00:39:24,500
I forget to take my notes but
I'm gonna have to get better

649
00:39:24,500 --> 00:39:27,300
about that but they go to this
town.

650
00:39:27,500 --> 00:39:30,600
They meet this chick who seems
like she's real nice.

651
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:35,200
You know she's room.
She's nice in a not nice way

652
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:40,800
like she's standard Tavern Fair.
Like she's got the attitude like

653
00:39:40,900 --> 00:39:45,100
okay she's got the smart mouth
and probably be Because she has

654
00:39:45,100 --> 00:39:48,600
to, she has to have learned how
to do that, because she's an

655
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:51,900
attractive young woman.
She's working in a bar with a

656
00:39:51,908 --> 00:39:53,900
whole bunch of guys.
And come on, let's let's be

657
00:39:53,900 --> 00:39:59,600
honest, guys in these types of
shows their dicks, their dicks

658
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:02,600
when it comes to women.
So she's probably had to like,

659
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:05,700
learn how to have a tough, you
know, tough mouth or whatever.

660
00:40:05,700 --> 00:40:12,000
So, she kind of She got to get
some random mats ass a little

661
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:17,800
bit but turns out she's a whole
different Beast because she is a

662
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:21,800
dark friend or is that's right.
Dark friend?

663
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:28,100
So because he seemed so
different before and then it's

664
00:40:28,100 --> 00:40:32,000
almost like, I don't know.
If I felt like something took

665
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:35,200
over her, like from the time,
they got there until the time

666
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:38,300
they left like something about
the way, she was observing them.

667
00:40:38,500 --> 00:40:40,300
You're trying to figure out what
was going on.

668
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:42,100
She was asking a lot of
questions.

669
00:40:42,100 --> 00:40:45,900
She said there had a drink with
ran and, you know, ran was, I

670
00:40:45,900 --> 00:40:51,100
don't think ran was.
I think he just needed somebody

671
00:40:51,100 --> 00:40:54,700
to talk to, you know, and she's
a young girl.

672
00:40:54,700 --> 00:40:57,500
Yes, she's attractive.
But she's a listening voice and

673
00:40:57,500 --> 00:40:59,700
you know, everybody says that
about part bartenders.

674
00:40:59,700 --> 00:41:03,000
Anyway, bartenders that's who
you put your feet up, your

675
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:06,000
troubles out to and they sit
there and listen while they're

676
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:08,400
serving you drinks and getting
drunk and making you spend your

677
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:12,400
money.
But I don't know something about

678
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:15,900
her, she seemed different.
And I don't know if there was

679
00:41:15,900 --> 00:41:20,700
like a particular switch that
she flipped or If she was just

680
00:41:20,700 --> 00:41:22,100
that good and she was like, oh
yeah.

681
00:41:22,100 --> 00:41:26,100
Let me be friendly to them.
And then, you know, once she got

682
00:41:26,100 --> 00:41:28,700
to that part where she tried to
kiss me, he backed off.

683
00:41:28,700 --> 00:41:32,200
She was like, oh, all right
switch flipped.

684
00:41:32,700 --> 00:41:36,400
Let me show you who I truly am
and it just changed from there.

685
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:39,000
And I was like, I know.
Ran was like why?

686
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:42,300
What the fuck just happened?
Because he looked genuinely

687
00:41:42,300 --> 00:41:46,000
confused like, ran is one of
those naive guys?

688
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:49,400
I feel like, because he's been
in love with the same woman, his

689
00:41:49,500 --> 00:41:51,900
Whole life.
So he doesn't know about that

690
00:41:51,900 --> 00:41:56,400
kind of, you know, womanly wiles
and all the kind of things that

691
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:59,700
women supposedly would do to get
to either have their way with

692
00:41:59,700 --> 00:42:02,500
you, get the information from
you or try to kill you.

693
00:42:02,500 --> 00:42:05,700
So he's just sitting there like
what the fuck just happened?

694
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:07,900
Let's do.
I do?

695
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:12,300
Shut up Mike.
I don't know, Anthony, you talk?

696
00:42:12,300 --> 00:42:20,200
Because I know my keys.
No way.

697
00:42:35,100 --> 00:42:37,200
and the way they don't do
things, or the way they do

698
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:41,800
things, you're just like This
Look fucker.

699
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:46,600
And that's not even, he is,
never a probably never ever

700
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:48,700
looked at another woman except
for a big one.

701
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:51,500
So if we're going yeah.
And it shows, you know what it

702
00:42:51,500 --> 00:42:55,300
reminded me of, Anakin
Skywalker, bass, know about the

703
00:42:55,308 --> 00:42:58,300
mask.
So, in the movie, The Mask,

704
00:42:58,300 --> 00:43:02,100
where Stanley ipkiss is running
away from the cops and the

705
00:43:02,100 --> 00:43:05,600
friend that he has, who works
with him, it comes against him

706
00:43:05,700 --> 00:43:09,000
and take some carry really lost.
Yes, Jim Carrey.

707
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:12,600
It takes them to her loss.
Off and they start talking and

708
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:14,900
he's like, you know, they get
kind of close like going, it's

709
00:43:14,900 --> 00:43:18,400
going to kiss and then the bad
guy comes in at the last moment

710
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:21,300
and she gives him the mask and
is like, okay, this is what

711
00:43:21,300 --> 00:43:22,800
happened.
Like she turns on like a

712
00:43:22,808 --> 00:43:24,100
last-minute.
That's what that kind of

713
00:43:24,107 --> 00:43:27,600
reminded me of, its kind of
obscure reference, but I mean

714
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:29,200
domestic.
My favorite movies, I don't care

715
00:43:29,300 --> 00:43:32,700
how long I get the Anakin
Skywalker, reference a little

716
00:43:32,700 --> 00:43:34,500
bit better, I think that
forever.

717
00:43:34,700 --> 00:43:39,800
First of all, I'm taking my time
back from the gentleman's from

718
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:42,300
Kennesaw.
Really?

719
00:43:42,300 --> 00:43:44,900
I reclaim my time, sir.
All right, Max Waters.

720
00:43:44,900 --> 00:43:52,100
You calm down.
I don't know how to follow that

721
00:43:52,100 --> 00:43:55,100
up with a.
I was gonna say, you shouldn't

722
00:43:55,100 --> 00:43:57,200
take any.
What I told you to take the for,

723
00:43:57,200 --> 00:44:00,200
see y'all gonna live in any one
of these days?

724
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:02,200
I'm gonna see.
Now we're not actually, no,

725
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:07,500
we're not, we're gonna see is
when I was going to say was, I

726
00:44:07,500 --> 00:44:11,300
don't know if this was
intentional on the writers part,

727
00:44:11,300 --> 00:44:14,700
but I think is brilliant that
you you feel like Dana had to

728
00:44:14,700 --> 00:44:20,100
switch.
Because the and the common

729
00:44:21,100 --> 00:44:25,400
attribute for a dark friend is
a, you don't know who the fuck

730
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:28,900
is a dark frame.
I'm like you have no freaking

731
00:44:28,900 --> 00:44:33,300
clue even reading the books.
You did these people, they hide

732
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:37,900
their really deceptive and be a
really good at getting really

733
00:44:37,900 --> 00:44:40,700
close to you and you think
they're like your best friend.

734
00:44:40,700 --> 00:44:43,300
And this scene though, you kind
of the knife protruding out of

735
00:44:43,300 --> 00:44:51,700
here, Nick As seen she started
out kind of not Nick, Not

736
00:44:51,700 --> 00:44:54,900
Innocent, but she seemed
harmless enough.

737
00:44:54,900 --> 00:44:57,000
I would say, you know.
Yeah, okay.

738
00:44:57,000 --> 00:45:00,800
I mean she had a mouth on her.
You know, when Matt said

739
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:04,300
something about, you know, I'll
grovel at your feet for a place

740
00:45:04,300 --> 00:45:07,800
to stay and she was like, okay,
go ahead and the floor is nasty.

741
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:09,600
She was like, what you waiting
for?

742
00:45:09,900 --> 00:45:15,300
I liked her quick-wittedness you
know, wittiness in that scene is

743
00:45:15,300 --> 00:45:19,800
she seemed like I I said,
harmful then she starts talking

744
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:27,100
to Rand and she seemed a little
bit more not seductive, but more

745
00:45:27,100 --> 00:45:31,500
flirty kind of like, okay, let
me see how this goes and I

746
00:45:31,500 --> 00:45:35,100
didn't even think of it as a.
Oh she's trying to get

747
00:45:35,100 --> 00:45:39,300
information for the Fades or for
the dark one.

748
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:42,600
I didn't look at it like that, I
just thought it was genuine like

749
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:46,300
breaking you in interest.
Like oh here are to life.

750
00:45:46,500 --> 00:45:49,800
Am I attractive men?
Because I mean, even even coming

751
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:53,500
into the town, even though
they've been on this journey for

752
00:45:53,500 --> 00:45:57,400
who knows weeks.
At this point, they have fought

753
00:45:57,400 --> 00:46:02,100
trolleys.
They have, they have fled, a

754
00:46:02,100 --> 00:46:05,300
shadow City.
They still look better than half

755
00:46:05,300 --> 00:46:09,600
of the man that you saw in that
town, not necessarily physically

756
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:13,300
look, but they were cleaner.
They just, you know, they just

757
00:46:13,300 --> 00:46:16,100
carried themselves a little bit
differently and she already told

758
00:46:16,100 --> 00:46:17,900
me that.
She was, like, most of these

759
00:46:17,900 --> 00:46:22,100
people here have known me since
I was, you know, a child or just

760
00:46:22,100 --> 00:46:27,300
before I was born, they were in
this town, so, when you're in a

761
00:46:27,308 --> 00:46:30,700
situation like that, and here
comes some, you know, some fresh

762
00:46:30,700 --> 00:46:33,900
blood coming through the door.
Yeah, she might get a little

763
00:46:33,900 --> 00:46:36,100
bit.
Flirty, that's what I took it as

764
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:41,400
but the moment he had rejected
her kiss.

765
00:46:42,100 --> 00:46:46,300
It's almost like everything
about her change her, facial

766
00:46:46,500 --> 00:46:49,300
Precious changed her body
language changed.

767
00:46:49,300 --> 00:46:51,300
Y'all know I talk about this all
the time.

768
00:46:51,500 --> 00:46:56,400
I paid close attention to facial
expressions, body language, she

769
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:59,700
flipped that switch so fast, I
was like, wait, what the fuck

770
00:46:59,700 --> 00:47:03,900
just happened?
It was Flawless like she's like

771
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:10,500
I shouldn't have done a braid
said, I think that's what are

772
00:47:10,500 --> 00:47:12,800
you talking about?
She said, rise me to too much of

773
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:15,900
her.
It was like, who because if you

774
00:47:15,900 --> 00:47:19,800
think about, It ran only
mentioned a girl.

775
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:24,200
When he asked about his friends,
he said a girl with the braids

776
00:47:24,300 --> 00:47:27,100
and a big guy that didn't,
that's it.

777
00:47:27,100 --> 00:47:29,900
I mean, nothing about the way
that he said, that would have

778
00:47:29,900 --> 00:47:33,800
given me the feeling of, oh,
he's pining for this girl.

779
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:35,300
He just basically was like
y'all.

780
00:47:35,300 --> 00:47:38,000
Have you seen some people?
Our age come in, that's the only

781
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:40,500
time he mentioned her.
So for her to turn around and be

782
00:47:40,500 --> 00:47:44,700
like, oh, the braid, it doesn't
remind me too much of her.

783
00:47:44,700 --> 00:47:48,500
And he says, what And I was like
oh that's not weird because he

784
00:47:48,500 --> 00:47:50,600
mentioned a girl with the braids
at the beginning of the thing

785
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:53,200
that she says egwene.
I was like, oh shit you in

786
00:47:53,500 --> 00:47:57,000
trouble.
But the thing about the in the

787
00:47:57,000 --> 00:48:01,900
books is you don't ever really
know who is a dart friend until

788
00:48:01,900 --> 00:48:04,200
they reveal themselves to be a
dark friend.

789
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:08,900
So it's not like they take
actions that they do things that

790
00:48:08,900 --> 00:48:10,600
make you think.
Oh, this person is a dark

791
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:14,000
friend, right?
Sometimes you have no freaking

792
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:18,000
clue until they do.
And cdna flip that switch.

793
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:21,000
So I think it's a brilliant way
to introduce a dark friend

794
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:24,500
because I thought it would be
the singer.

795
00:48:24,500 --> 00:48:26,600
First, I would have thought it
was him.

796
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:31,400
And he turned out to be the one
to help them, you know man.

797
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:33,000
Let me tell you the old
pickpocket.

798
00:48:33,100 --> 00:48:36,600
I was I was old pickpocket who
just with snuck up on them and

799
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:39,000
shape them while they weren't
looking no because the old

800
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:41,300
pickpocket would have been to
for me it would have been too

801
00:48:41,300 --> 00:48:45,000
obvious.
You know, you take the guy that

802
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:49,400
literally just, you just
basically buried a body with,

803
00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:53,500
but you actually got to know
them, you know, got to know him

804
00:48:53,500 --> 00:48:58,400
a little bit enough to give him
your real name and then, you

805
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:01,300
know, also the do was like,
yeah, you come from the two

806
00:49:01,300 --> 00:49:03,800
rivers and he was like, I never
said, I was from the two rivers.

807
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:06,300
He was like everything about
you, says the two rivers, the

808
00:49:06,300 --> 00:49:09,200
way you walk, the way you look,
the way, the way you talk

809
00:49:09,300 --> 00:49:14,200
everything about you says that
attitude, Stubborn attitude.

810
00:49:14,500 --> 00:49:18,200
So I was like, something's not
right about this guy and then

811
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:20,900
it's so funny because it turns
out that he's the one that

812
00:49:20,900 --> 00:49:25,600
helped them by throwing a sword
in Dana's.

813
00:49:25,900 --> 00:49:30,900
That that was cool.
I hate it.

814
00:49:30,900 --> 00:49:36,100
But that was, that was cool.
He was like yeah you talking

815
00:49:36,100 --> 00:49:42,300
about Tom Maryland the gleaming.
Yes yes, his song that he sang

816
00:49:42,300 --> 00:49:45,400
in his ears.
Production was about loose there

817
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:49,500
until Aman.
You the one who broke the world

818
00:49:49,500 --> 00:49:52,800
and seeing all his dead
relatives and he killed it's a

819
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:57,200
very sad song.
Tom Maryland book be the same

820
00:49:57,200 --> 00:49:59,600
treatment with him.
They did with Matt, they made

821
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:01,700
him really really dark in the
book.

822
00:50:01,700 --> 00:50:05,100
He's actually very funny ugly
man or funny.

823
00:50:05,100 --> 00:50:10,100
They're entertainers but like
this guy I don't want to sit and

824
00:50:10,100 --> 00:50:14,100
cry when you sing a song.
I'm supposed to be happy.

825
00:50:15,100 --> 00:50:20,200
Well, it it it it goes back to
the way he is in the book

826
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:24,500
because in the book there's
something about him that I don't

827
00:50:24,500 --> 00:50:25,800
know if it shows up in the other
episodes.

828
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:28,600
Because I haven't seen, I'm
halfway through episode 5 but if

829
00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:34,700
they continue that should be
interesting because he's going

830
00:50:34,700 --> 00:50:38,100
to be.
I hope a major character because

831
00:50:38,100 --> 00:50:42,300
I enjoy seeing any time you've
got a Bard character that can

832
00:50:42,300 --> 00:50:46,900
fight message.
Injure or someone who is

833
00:50:46,900 --> 00:50:50,300
Entertainer, that does that.
Because I usually Eternal to be

834
00:50:50,300 --> 00:50:56,100
spies or assassin, so I was
happy to see him, but this is

835
00:50:56,100 --> 00:50:59,800
not a spoiler.
He is a Cornerstone character in

836
00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:01,100
the book.
Oh, good.

837
00:51:01,100 --> 00:51:04,600
Cause I was hoping he was
supposed he was supposed to be

838
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:07,500
in the two rivers.
I mean, in the book, that's

839
00:51:07,500 --> 00:51:09,800
that's where he is.
That's this what he started.

840
00:51:09,900 --> 00:51:14,400
They all leave together, they
moved him, they moved him.

841
00:51:14,500 --> 00:51:15,800
To a different place.
Yeah.

842
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:18,400
Because yeah, because the first
episode I was like well, where's

843
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:19,800
Tom right?
But yeah.

844
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:21,400
Okay.
So that that answered my

845
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:25,400
question because like I said, I
enjoyed so much I know, I know

846
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:31,400
why they didn't do it because of
person you never know this of

847
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:35,200
another certain person and the
relationship that she has with

848
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:39,400
her water, they didn't want to.
Do you want to throw that out

849
00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:46,000
there too soon?
Me and Mike a little late.

850
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:51,900
Now, I know why they don't want
you to focus.

851
00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:54,400
They want you to focus on
certain relationships and not

852
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:59,200
others.
So it's better to to to just

853
00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:01,900
show him for a couple of
episodes and we will never see

854
00:52:01,900 --> 00:52:04,300
him again probably.
Okay.

855
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:07,100
Because it's like I was looking
at him and I was like is that

856
00:52:07,100 --> 00:52:09,700
Kurt Cobain?
Like because he was like singing

857
00:52:09,700 --> 00:52:12,100
like all sad and strumming, the
guitar.

858
00:52:12,100 --> 00:52:13,900
So I expect them to have like a
ready.

859
00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:17,900
In cardigan on its are seeing
Another Man Who Sold the World

860
00:52:17,900 --> 00:52:19,500
engine.
He's more like Weird, Al

861
00:52:19,500 --> 00:52:23,400
Yankovic in the book.
He's who was rather very

862
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:27,500
colorful Patchwork jacket.
You know, this is a community

863
00:52:27,500 --> 00:52:30,500
that was like I said that was an
accurate representation.

864
00:52:30,500 --> 00:52:35,200
As far as the book, those what
he did easy tells the people who

865
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:39,700
are book readers, who watch the
show, that this is clearly going

866
00:52:39,700 --> 00:52:45,800
to be darker than the book like
between him and Matt.

867
00:52:46,100 --> 00:52:50,000
This this show is not going to
be like the book we're going

868
00:52:50,100 --> 00:52:52,900
Game of Thrones dark this thing,
okay?

869
00:52:53,700 --> 00:52:57,500
And and just showing him like
that.

870
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:01,800
Okay.
Yeah, the the song was playing

871
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:04,600
in the background of my daughter
was like, why does it sound like

872
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:06,200
Blues?
She was like, the sounds.

873
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:10,600
Like she said it sounds like
some blues record that she

874
00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:13,900
listens to.
I was sitting there like it was

875
00:53:13,900 --> 00:53:17,600
a nice song I guess.
In terms of, you know, sometimes

876
00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:21,600
when you watch shows and they
had the pub singers, they don't

877
00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:23,700
necessarily sound all that
great.

878
00:53:24,900 --> 00:53:28,800
He sounded, okay?
But it was like, you said, it

879
00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:32,400
was very depressing.
I was like, I need to switch

880
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:36,100
over to Netflix and play toss.
A coin to your Witcher or

881
00:53:36,100 --> 00:53:38,300
something.
I need something that's gonna

882
00:53:38,700 --> 00:53:45,900
live in it, but that is who he
should be more like, okay, him,

883
00:53:46,100 --> 00:53:49,200
or even the guy we saw at
conjuration seeing the pub

884
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:51,600
songs.
Yeah.

885
00:53:51,700 --> 00:53:53,100
Okay.
Okay.

886
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:56,500
If that's what he should be.
Like okay, hmm.

887
00:53:57,200 --> 00:54:06,400
Alright um, Let's see, what else
is there to talk about in this

888
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:09,000
episode because your fingers?
Yes!

889
00:54:09,900 --> 00:54:13,000
The to I thought, yes, let's get
to the Tinker.

890
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:17,400
So I'm traveling people.
Yes, the traveling people.

891
00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:23,400
So parent and egwene come across
this Caravan of people in the

892
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:27,400
forest and they have this really
weird way of introducing

893
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:28,700
themselves.
They're like, do you know the

894
00:54:28,700 --> 00:54:31,700
song?
Ang and I was like, what's the

895
00:54:31,700 --> 00:54:33,900
song?
And, of course, obviously,

896
00:54:33,900 --> 00:54:36,900
egwene and parent, don't know
the song and they're going back

897
00:54:36,900 --> 00:54:39,500
and forth.
This is one woman with a younger

898
00:54:39,500 --> 00:54:42,900
dude and they're going back and
forth talking and he tells them

899
00:54:42,900 --> 00:54:45,700
what they're supposed to say.
If they don't know the song and

900
00:54:45,700 --> 00:54:48,300
then she says what they're
supposed to say if they know the

901
00:54:48,300 --> 00:54:51,600
song and then they're like you
guys look like you need some

902
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:52,300
food?
Come on.

903
00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:58,700
They just take them in.
And so, the Tinkers are this

904
00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:01,900
their wandering group, they're
traveling group.

905
00:55:02,300 --> 00:55:05,700
And basically, what is it that
she says are fires.

906
00:55:05,700 --> 00:55:09,400
Are open to all that needed.
Our food is open to all that

907
00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:11,600
needed.
So basically they just they they

908
00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:16,400
travel around the country and
they pick up, people who might

909
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:21,600
need, you know, some fresh food,
a warm place to, you know, kind

910
00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:25,700
of camp out or whatever which
obviously Li Guang and parent

911
00:55:25,700 --> 00:55:28,000
need it because they have been
on their own for, who knows how

912
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:32,700
long at this point.
But that's an interesting group,

913
00:55:32,700 --> 00:55:34,700
tell us a little bit more about
that group Anthony.

914
00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:41,100
Okay, go ahead.
No, go ahead, Mike, are you sure

915
00:55:41,100 --> 00:55:45,000
this is the last time?
You know, I'm sure that's all

916
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:48,400
I'm saying is I'm getting when
they were, like, how they were

917
00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:51,600
talking to him.
I was like, okay, this is giving

918
00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:56,700
me like heavy, like traveling
Carnival Vibes or traveling

919
00:55:56,700 --> 00:55:59,000
cannibal lives.
Like, I keep it.

920
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:00,800
I half.
Expect parent to wake up on a

921
00:56:00,808 --> 00:56:05,600
spit, like, rotating over a
fire, like, like, oh my God.

922
00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:09,400
Like, but I mean, I'm like maybe
they're good enough and you

923
00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:13,200
know, but I just did there were
giving giving off really weird

924
00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:15,500
Vibes to me.
It's like, I really kind of got

925
00:56:15,500 --> 00:56:16,800
the feeling that they were going
to eat.

926
00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:21,500
Perinatal egg.
White is rahmani and acceptable

927
00:56:21,500 --> 00:56:22,600
term.
Yeah.

928
00:56:23,900 --> 00:56:25,700
Is I'm sorry.
Robot line.

929
00:56:25,700 --> 00:56:28,800
Romani, is that acceptable?
Yes, I think so.

930
00:56:29,100 --> 00:56:34,300
Okay, because that that's that's
the, the what I got and I was

931
00:56:34,300 --> 00:56:37,800
immediately intrigued reading
the book when they were talking

932
00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:41,400
about them.
And I was like, oh, because in

933
00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:43,800
another book series by Kevin J
Anderson.

934
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:49,100
There is a group of people in
space that are basically that

935
00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:54,100
and they, they Roam and they're
called roamers and Still the

936
00:56:54,100 --> 00:56:57,700
official term in the book series
out of the seven sons and the

937
00:56:57,700 --> 00:57:01,500
roamers are kind of like these
people only there on spaceships

938
00:57:01,500 --> 00:57:07,500
and they basically mine various
gases and minerals for the rest

939
00:57:07,500 --> 00:57:10,100
of the universe and they run
into some issues, but it

940
00:57:10,100 --> 00:57:12,900
reminded me of that.
Now I've always been intrigued

941
00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:15,900
by the whole concept of
basically you know getting in a

942
00:57:15,908 --> 00:57:19,800
caravan and traveling you know
to and from you know, different

943
00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:23,300
places the descriptions in the
book of how they can't stay in

944
00:57:23,300 --> 00:57:26,800
made Our cities and towns, sort
of, you know, the prejudices

945
00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:30,000
that people have of this
particular group of people, but

946
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:34,400
I was fascinated and the song.
Now, I haven't gone past.

947
00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:38,300
I'm about a third way through a
book too, but I'm calling it

948
00:57:38,300 --> 00:57:41,800
right now.
I bet you one of the five knows

949
00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:46,300
the song and I bet you the song
is going to be a lot more

950
00:57:47,300 --> 00:57:49,900
important than people think.
That's just me.

951
00:57:50,100 --> 00:57:53,500
Just going off of what I read
was suspect it.

952
00:57:53,700 --> 00:57:55,900
That's the case.
I would think it would be like

953
00:57:55,900 --> 00:58:03,200
9af, maybe because she's the one
that's not original to the town

954
00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:06,000
where the other for, you know,
were born, but right.

955
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:10,000
And I don't think it's fate of
no spoilers, no spoilers, but

956
00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:11,600
don't get your hopes up about
the song.

957
00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:20,500
Just why these leaders have have
torture themselves or the song

958
00:58:21,300 --> 00:58:25,400
Forever don't get too.
So what you're saying, is the

959
00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:29,300
almighty great stairs and didn't
didn't deliver with those last

960
00:58:29,300 --> 00:58:31,200
three books.
I'm not saying any more.

961
00:58:33,900 --> 00:58:37,700
There's another, the Shannara
series, they are Rovers.

962
00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:41,100
Who are very similar, forgot
about that, your rights.

963
00:58:41,100 --> 00:58:42,600
Got out of it.
The Rover's.

964
00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:48,400
Like, the I only saw like the
first sir, first two episodes of

965
00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:51,900
season 2 of Shannara, but
weren't they in like the first

966
00:58:51,900 --> 00:58:56,400
episode of season 2?
I abandoned the scenario

967
00:58:56,400 --> 00:59:01,900
Chronicles TV show because I
don't remember seeing them, but

968
00:59:01,900 --> 00:59:03,500
they may have been.
Okay.

969
00:59:03,900 --> 00:59:09,100
I was trying to I was trying to
think of the the people that are

970
00:59:09,100 --> 00:59:12,300
trai ended up with after
everything that happened with.

971
00:59:13,400 --> 00:59:15,300
I think that was the Rovers.
Okay.

972
00:59:15,300 --> 00:59:17,000
Yeah.
I think I did watch that.

973
00:59:18,100 --> 00:59:19,200
Okay.
Okay.

974
00:59:20,600 --> 00:59:24,100
The two other one, I'm not going
to give anything away but The

975
00:59:24,100 --> 00:59:28,500
12th, one of the traveling
people, or the Tinkers are

976
00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:34,900
remember.
I keep saying this things have

977
00:59:34,900 --> 00:59:39,300
changed over the last 3,000
years, so they may not even

978
00:59:39,300 --> 00:59:44,200
remember what their original
purpose was, but they have a

979
00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:51,500
role to play, okay?
Be are an important group of

980
00:59:51,500 --> 00:59:54,600
people in this world.
Okay.

981
00:59:54,800 --> 00:59:58,800
And I know they, they followed
the way of the Iana when they

982
00:59:58,800 --> 01:00:03,000
said the way of the leaf, my
mind went to Firefly, I couldn't

983
01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:05,900
help it.
It's like, no, don't do this to

984
01:00:05,900 --> 01:00:08,200
me.
But anyway, so they followed the

985
01:00:08,200 --> 01:00:10,900
way of the leaf, and it's
basically a non-violent

986
01:00:10,900 --> 01:00:15,600
lifestyle so, like even if
they're attacked or something

987
01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:19,600
like that, they just don't fight
back, which is a very foreign

988
01:00:19,600 --> 01:00:23,800
concept for me to think about
giving the world that we live

989
01:00:23,800 --> 01:00:24,400
in.
Vin.

990
01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:31,600
But they really are a people
that kind of practice piece,

991
01:00:32,800 --> 01:00:36,200
right?
So, we learned their history.

992
01:00:36,200 --> 01:00:37,600
Will remember where they came
from.

993
01:00:37,600 --> 01:00:41,000
It will make sense, okay?
Okay.

994
01:00:41,600 --> 01:00:45,000
But yeah, they're they're
they're interesting much but I'd

995
01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:49,500
like them because they took care
of iguana Perrin so I like them

996
01:00:49,700 --> 01:00:55,200
and Maria Doyle Kennedy is the
the leader so I like them if

997
01:00:55,400 --> 01:00:58,100
they even have benefited, I will
say this.

998
01:00:58,500 --> 01:01:03,300
But they have benefited from
being very open to other people

999
01:01:03,300 --> 01:01:07,900
joining them and marrying into
their families and creating

1000
01:01:07,900 --> 01:01:10,000
offspring, that don't look like
who.

1001
01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:14,800
They're And from now Anthony
correct me if I'm wrong.

1002
01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:18,900
But when they were with them
weren't they supposed to meet

1003
01:01:18,900 --> 01:01:23,200
somebody and we had, we haven't
seen them in this episode yet?

1004
01:01:23,800 --> 01:01:27,000
Yes, he's not with him.
That's why I thought, okay.

1005
01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:29,400
Yeah.
Okay.

1006
01:01:29,700 --> 01:01:33,700
She's how badly the same thing.
We did with Tom being moved.

1007
01:01:33,700 --> 01:01:36,600
Tom in a different spot.
They have also moved its other

1008
01:01:36,600 --> 01:01:42,400
character that we've seen pad
and fame, who we've seen, is

1009
01:01:42,400 --> 01:01:44,800
supposed to have been with the
tankers at this time.

1010
01:01:44,800 --> 01:01:49,400
But for some strange reason he's
not oh okay.

1011
01:01:50,600 --> 01:01:56,300
He was the he was the the guy
with every works.

1012
01:01:56,300 --> 01:01:58,200
Yeah.
The traveling Merchant in the

1013
01:01:58,200 --> 01:02:00,300
first.
Episode the black dude, with the

1014
01:02:00,300 --> 01:02:02,000
small twist.
Yeah.

1015
01:02:02,100 --> 01:02:09,000
Is he going is?
We see where he and Matt are

1016
01:02:09,000 --> 01:02:12,300
doing, like, a little trade.
Can we assume?

1017
01:02:12,400 --> 01:02:15,900
And this is pre not after can we
assume that Matt's been doing

1018
01:02:15,900 --> 01:02:18,200
Trinkets and trading with him
all along?

1019
01:02:20,300 --> 01:02:22,600
I thought that was the
impression I got when they were

1020
01:02:22,600 --> 01:02:25,400
talking.
Hmm, I thought I just cuz I

1021
01:02:25,400 --> 01:02:28,500
wasn't I didn't know if that was
a one-time thing or not because

1022
01:02:28,500 --> 01:02:31,600
I was thinking it has to be more
than one because he they were

1023
01:02:31,900 --> 01:02:34,100
able to strike up a deal very
quickly.

1024
01:02:35,000 --> 01:02:39,100
So that will be that and Fain
was and we're going back to that

1025
01:02:39,100 --> 01:02:42,600
first episode pain and fame was
basically their link to the

1026
01:02:42,600 --> 01:02:44,700
outside world for the two
rivers.

1027
01:02:44,800 --> 01:02:46,300
Okay.
That's what I miss.

1028
01:02:46,300 --> 01:02:49,900
Okay, remember the two of you
they were very welcoming and

1029
01:02:49,900 --> 01:02:53,600
they do get merchants and things
and people come in and out for

1030
01:02:53,600 --> 01:02:56,000
the wool and all that stuff.
But patents.

1031
01:02:56,000 --> 01:03:00,700
Fame brings he brings the news
of the world to them so that you

1032
01:03:00,707 --> 01:03:03,200
look for secluded.
Yeah.

1033
01:03:03,900 --> 01:03:07,400
But he when he comes he knows
that they want to know what's

1034
01:03:07,400 --> 01:03:09,800
happening in the world.
Like when the merchants come to

1035
01:03:09,800 --> 01:03:13,200
trade for the wool, they get the
one they leave but now he kind

1036
01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:17,900
of hangs around for you know a
week or two telling stories of

1037
01:03:17,900 --> 01:03:20,500
what's going.
Where he brings like news, kind

1038
01:03:20,500 --> 01:03:25,700
of like newspapers for them to
read and you know, so yeah Matt

1039
01:03:25,900 --> 01:03:28,500
yeah, that was the impression I
got in their first episode

1040
01:03:28,500 --> 01:03:31,200
because when he was trading with
him, he was like, well, not this

1041
01:03:31,200 --> 01:03:32,900
time.
You know, I don't have anything

1042
01:03:32,900 --> 01:03:34,700
for you.
Now, what you got for me?

1043
01:03:34,900 --> 01:03:39,300
So yeah, they've traded before.
Okay.

1044
01:03:40,700 --> 01:03:47,500
All right.
Um, so there was another 0v, the

1045
01:03:47,500 --> 01:03:51,600
person who was hanging in the
town or who was hanging in the

1046
01:03:51,600 --> 01:03:56,700
cage in the town when Rand and
Matt got there, he's called Anne

1047
01:03:56,700 --> 01:04:02,800
IL the IU IU, okay, are they
going to play prominently into

1048
01:04:02,800 --> 01:04:07,100
the story?
So I don't want to give away too

1049
01:04:07,100 --> 01:04:12,000
much about the IU but bi you are
a people.

1050
01:04:13,300 --> 01:04:19,000
Who live beyond the spine of the
world in this world, the spine

1051
01:04:19,000 --> 01:04:22,700
of the world, is a mountain
range, I think, to the

1052
01:04:22,700 --> 01:04:26,500
Northeast.
And on the other side is a vast

1053
01:04:26,500 --> 01:04:30,900
desert and so they think of them
as the Freeman.

1054
01:04:31,200 --> 01:04:34,800
They're basically the framing
from Doom, they live in a

1055
01:04:34,800 --> 01:04:40,800
desert, they're divided up in
the Clans and it's a very harsh

1056
01:04:40,800 --> 01:04:42,800
environment.
They have these very harsh.

1057
01:04:43,000 --> 01:04:46,300
They live by they don't use
swords.

1058
01:04:46,700 --> 01:04:52,400
There is a reason that they use
Spears, they have Spears.

1059
01:04:53,000 --> 01:04:57,200
They don't ride horses on this.
They have to okay?

1060
01:04:58,100 --> 01:05:01,300
Yeah, I just walk everywhere.
Run.

1061
01:05:03,400 --> 01:05:05,500
Okay?
Okay, yes.

1062
01:05:05,900 --> 01:05:09,100
And if in the bull very
physically, a death, okay.

1063
01:05:09,200 --> 01:05:12,700
Actually, yes.
Yes, they are because of the

1064
01:05:12,700 --> 01:05:18,700
harsh environment, he lived and
but you learn more about them as

1065
01:05:18,700 --> 01:05:22,300
a.
So I guess as a Seasons progress

1066
01:05:22,300 --> 01:05:26,000
will learn more but everything
you need to know.

1067
01:05:26,600 --> 01:05:30,200
One of the things, they are
Fierce Fighters some of the best

1068
01:05:30,200 --> 01:05:35,400
in the world but and I you whose
veiled if they pull their Veil

1069
01:05:35,400 --> 01:05:38,100
up over their face that's what
you got to watch out.

1070
01:05:39,100 --> 01:05:41,300
You are gonna be okay.
That's what we are.

1071
01:05:41,600 --> 01:05:45,100
That's what the, what is the
term for him?

1072
01:05:46,100 --> 01:05:48,900
He's a gleaming that's I can't I
couldn't think of it.

1073
01:05:48,900 --> 01:05:50,500
But yeah, that's what he felt
mad.

1074
01:05:50,500 --> 01:05:54,700
He was like it fellas up.
That's when you have to worry.

1075
01:05:55,500 --> 01:05:57,400
Yeah.
When the Villas down the rear

1076
01:05:57,400 --> 01:06:03,100
piece, The I reasons, okay.
Which would be a spoiler.

1077
01:06:03,400 --> 01:06:05,300
Oh, okay.
Yes they are.

1078
01:06:07,700 --> 01:06:11,300
They don't care for weapons of
in the spirit because they don't

1079
01:06:11,300 --> 01:06:14,600
consider the Spear of.
They're very defensive and

1080
01:06:14,600 --> 01:06:18,000
posture, not necessarily
offensive imposter.

1081
01:06:19,200 --> 01:06:23,200
But if they need to be, they
will defend their life and their

1082
01:06:23,200 --> 01:06:27,400
water to the depth, and they
have red hair like rant.

1083
01:06:29,100 --> 01:06:32,800
I'm sorry, you know where I'm
going to be pink and they take

1084
01:06:32,900 --> 01:06:42,200
Oaths very seriously here and
there like Rand had to make that

1085
01:06:42,200 --> 01:06:50,000
distinction, huh?
With in Toms sake, don't see

1086
01:06:50,000 --> 01:06:56,300
that you don't see this kind of
hair outside of whatever.

1087
01:06:56,300 --> 01:06:58,300
Yeah, okay.
So okay Lori.

1088
01:06:58,700 --> 01:07:00,600
You did it.
You have to give your theory

1089
01:07:00,600 --> 01:07:02,300
now.
He's one of them.

1090
01:07:03,600 --> 01:07:09,500
He is one of that people and I'm
going to say that something is

1091
01:07:09,500 --> 01:07:11,300
going to be revealed that he
has.

1092
01:07:11,300 --> 01:07:14,600
Definitely one of them.
He's not from the village and

1093
01:07:14,600 --> 01:07:17,900
that something happened with him
that caused him to be at the two

1094
01:07:17,900 --> 01:07:20,600
rivers.
And he's actually a long laws

1095
01:07:20,800 --> 01:07:23,800
dead Prince princeling are
that's my theory.

1096
01:07:24,200 --> 01:07:26,600
He's a long-lost, dead
princeling.

1097
01:07:27,100 --> 01:07:31,800
No, no, I said well, he's a
longhorn did King.

1098
01:07:31,900 --> 01:07:35,000
There you go.
That's my theory.

1099
01:07:36,300 --> 01:07:40,200
Okay.
Okay NASA.

1100
01:07:40,400 --> 01:07:43,300
So.
So let's go.

1101
01:07:43,400 --> 01:07:46,000
First, I you were which we
haven't, which we haven't heard

1102
01:07:46,000 --> 01:07:50,600
about, which will see part of
later but for sale War happened

1103
01:07:50,600 --> 01:07:54,200
because an oath was broken by
one of the Kings.

1104
01:07:54,300 --> 01:08:01,800
Oh and so be at you all the
there 12 yeah they're 12 Clans

1105
01:08:01,800 --> 01:08:07,300
they all got together.
Came over this by and proceeded

1106
01:08:07,300 --> 01:08:10,700
to try to kill, Matt King.
And that was the first day of

1107
01:08:10,707 --> 01:08:14,300
War.
Well, okay, accomplish the goal

1108
01:08:14,500 --> 01:08:17,000
and we're back.
Oh, okay, give the job done.

1109
01:08:17,000 --> 01:08:18,100
Go home.
All right.

1110
01:08:18,300 --> 01:08:21,300
Hey, how's it going?
No one wants to fight them

1111
01:08:21,399 --> 01:08:23,700
face-to-face.
Not even, not.

1112
01:08:23,700 --> 01:08:28,200
Even the be talk about blade
Masters.

1113
01:08:28,300 --> 01:08:31,500
Who are the best?
Swordsman They say they don't

1114
01:08:31,500 --> 01:08:37,600
want none of that, they don't
want the heat will do well.

1115
01:08:37,800 --> 01:08:41,700
I mean, the honestly you'll see
later if you don't want that.

1116
01:08:42,600 --> 01:08:47,200
Okay, so okay, I'm gonna bring
this up since Lori put out her

1117
01:08:47,200 --> 01:08:51,300
little Theory and of course we
know that R and is possibly the

1118
01:08:51,300 --> 01:08:54,800
dragon reborn.
I think he probably is like I

1119
01:08:54,800 --> 01:08:57,800
said it's either him or Matt in
my mind.

1120
01:08:59,100 --> 01:09:06,600
But if He is an IL and if he is
the dragon reborn is that going

1121
01:09:06,600 --> 01:09:11,000
to be like good chaotic or bad
chaotic in your opinion?

1122
01:09:11,899 --> 01:09:14,000
My opinion.
Hmm, both.

1123
01:09:14,500 --> 01:09:21,300
Oh okay, both because we haven't
even gotten to the good stuff

1124
01:09:21,300 --> 01:09:24,899
yet.
Okay, well yeah, yeah.

1125
01:09:24,899 --> 01:09:29,000
And since right about ran in
this episode you mentioned the

1126
01:09:29,000 --> 01:09:32,600
door earlier.
Mmm, you think that door down?

1127
01:09:32,899 --> 01:09:35,200
What else?
What else did you notice that he

1128
01:09:35,200 --> 01:09:40,800
did in the episode?
Well, I see all those fucking

1129
01:09:40,800 --> 01:09:42,000
Boggs.
He split.

1130
01:09:42,300 --> 01:09:46,200
Yes, and my man didn't even
break a sweat then that light he

1131
01:09:46,200 --> 01:09:48,800
was.
But you know I didn't even think

1132
01:09:48,800 --> 01:09:52,200
about that as being unusual
because as Matt said when he

1133
01:09:52,200 --> 01:09:56,000
kind of you know quickly bowed
out of that Shore, he was like

1134
01:09:56,400 --> 01:09:58,900
Max was me.
He'll have that done in no time

1135
01:09:59,300 --> 01:10:02,300
so I just thought it was
something he was used to doing

1136
01:10:02,300 --> 01:10:05,500
but now that you say it like
that that was a lot of damn

1137
01:10:05,500 --> 01:10:06,900
wood.
Yeah.

1138
01:10:06,900 --> 01:10:09,300
There would.
A lot.

1139
01:10:10,200 --> 01:10:13,900
But yeah, I noticed that when
he, you know, when he started

1140
01:10:13,900 --> 01:10:16,500
running up against the door, you
know, it shakes a little bit and

1141
01:10:16,500 --> 01:10:17,700
she was like, I know you're not
going to.

1142
01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:20,700
Why do you think I chose to
bring you in here because you

1143
01:10:20,700 --> 01:10:24,200
can't break that door down?
And it's like, as soon as she

1144
01:10:24,200 --> 01:10:28,900
said you can't boom, boom.
And you could actually see the

1145
01:10:28,900 --> 01:10:33,300
waves of power come off the door
right before he knocked down.

1146
01:10:33,300 --> 01:10:36,000
And even she looked at it like
oh oh oh shit.

1147
01:10:36,000 --> 01:10:40,100
Like this was not, what was Most
to happen with and she's a timid

1148
01:10:40,100 --> 01:10:43,900
at that point in me, and your
size could knock that door down,

1149
01:10:44,300 --> 01:10:49,600
okay?
One man his size did and this is

1150
01:10:49,600 --> 01:10:53,100
still the person you wanted to
hold at knifepoint and then tell

1151
01:10:53,100 --> 01:10:56,700
him, look I already called the
phase but they're coming for you

1152
01:10:57,300 --> 01:11:00,600
and I'm going to be the one who
turns you.

1153
01:11:01,500 --> 01:11:04,400
I started to say, bitch, have
you never watch TV before your

1154
01:11:04,400 --> 01:11:07,200
life and seeing that?
Anytime somebody says, I'm gonna

1155
01:11:07,200 --> 01:11:09,600
get the glory, I I'm gonna do
this of live.

1156
01:11:09,600 --> 01:11:15,300
Are the ones that end up dead
and like you said when we were,

1157
01:11:15,600 --> 01:11:19,100
you know, we were dealing with
technical difficulties when that

1158
01:11:19,100 --> 01:11:22,900
sword came through her neck.
I didn't see it from behind the

1159
01:11:22,900 --> 01:11:26,400
first time, but the second time,
you can actually see it flying

1160
01:11:26,400 --> 01:11:28,300
through the air right before it
gets to her neck.

1161
01:11:28,300 --> 01:11:30,400
I was like, oh, that's actually
a cool shot.

1162
01:11:31,200 --> 01:11:33,800
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
She's, uh, she made.

1163
01:11:34,400 --> 01:11:37,100
I'm sorry.
I'm saying, she made.

1164
01:11:37,100 --> 01:11:41,300
She made the She made the, you
know, the mistake that all all

1165
01:11:41,300 --> 01:11:44,600
bad guys make that she started
monologuing like soon as you

1166
01:11:44,600 --> 01:11:49,400
start bomb logging don't listen
do like and second of all and

1167
01:11:49,407 --> 01:11:51,300
second of all, how the hell she
called them?

1168
01:11:53,200 --> 01:11:58,000
Call who?
The phase in their dreams.

1169
01:11:58,100 --> 01:12:02,400
Yeah.
And it dries, remember he beat

1170
01:12:02,600 --> 01:12:06,300
the dark one was sending her
images of the five of them.

1171
01:12:07,600 --> 01:12:13,400
So yeah, there's this house, I
think, I think, I think she just

1172
01:12:13,400 --> 01:12:17,700
had one too many crusty guys,
flirting with her and shit and

1173
01:12:17,700 --> 01:12:19,100
she lost her.
Damn mind.

1174
01:12:19,100 --> 01:12:32,300
She's like Well, my sense
because she wasn't saying, oh

1175
01:12:32,300 --> 01:12:35,700
yeah, you guys are the dragon
reborn and you're going to

1176
01:12:35,700 --> 01:12:37,900
destroy the world and that's
what I want.

1177
01:12:37,900 --> 01:12:40,700
You know, how you have all these
evil minions, when they're

1178
01:12:40,700 --> 01:12:42,700
flocking to the bad guy.
They're like, oh, he's going to

1179
01:12:42,708 --> 01:12:46,000
make this better for us.
But the better is literally

1180
01:12:46,000 --> 01:12:50,300
worse for everybody.
She was like, you're supposed to

1181
01:12:50,400 --> 01:12:54,600
Help fix things every time
people coming to the bar.

1182
01:12:55,600 --> 01:12:58,600
They talk about war, they talk
about famine.

1183
01:12:58,600 --> 01:13:01,900
They talk about this that, you
know, all this bad stuff

1184
01:13:01,900 --> 01:13:04,300
happening.
The the dragon reborn is going

1185
01:13:04,300 --> 01:13:07,400
to fix that.
So in that sense, I can

1186
01:13:07,400 --> 01:13:11,400
understand, but I'm sorry.
You're talking about someone

1187
01:13:11,400 --> 01:13:15,300
saving the world, but the term
for what you are, is dark

1188
01:13:15,300 --> 01:13:18,700
friend.
Now that does not compute does

1189
01:13:18,700 --> 01:13:24,400
not compute that Go together.
No, how do you know, say the

1190
01:13:24,400 --> 01:13:26,300
world.
But you're called a dark friend.

1191
01:13:26,700 --> 01:13:29,900
You just pop this, these people
are supposed to save the world

1192
01:13:29,900 --> 01:13:34,700
but the person that you that you
summon is either the dark one or

1193
01:13:34,700 --> 01:13:37,300
a fade.
There is nothing positive about

1194
01:13:37,300 --> 01:13:41,900
a fade unless it's on your head
and it's done correctly.

1195
01:13:54,800 --> 01:13:58,400
My audio books, I've been, you
know, organizing and I'm coming

1196
01:13:58,400 --> 01:14:02,100
across a theme of some of my
books and I was wondering if we

1197
01:14:02,100 --> 01:14:05,800
have this in this book series,
are there any other following

1198
01:14:05,800 --> 01:14:09,100
nod your head once for yes two
times for no.

1199
01:14:09,200 --> 01:14:13,700
Are there any Fallen gods or any
Gods from other Realms walking

1200
01:14:13,700 --> 01:14:17,000
around?
Okay.

1201
01:14:17,900 --> 01:14:23,400
All right now that just thought
I'd ask you're good uncle.

1202
01:14:24,200 --> 01:14:28,300
Yeah, I was covering my eyes so
that's not that's not this type

1203
01:14:28,300 --> 01:14:42,700
of damage is okay because I
because I like I said I'm going

1204
01:14:42,700 --> 01:14:45,300
through so much stuff and I
noticed about four or five of

1205
01:14:45,300 --> 01:14:47,300
the series to the Of a
pissed-off.

1206
01:14:47,300 --> 01:14:50,700
God shows up again or comes from
the outer realm.

1207
01:14:51,800 --> 01:14:53,400
Yeah.
No that would make things

1208
01:14:53,400 --> 01:15:00,100
interesting.
No, the the this Creator he he

1209
01:15:00,100 --> 01:15:02,800
created the will and will does
what it does.

1210
01:15:03,100 --> 01:15:07,300
And will tries to fix herself by
doing things.

1211
01:15:08,000 --> 01:15:12,200
So the Creator's not necessarily
doing all of these things, but

1212
01:15:12,200 --> 01:15:16,500
will is trying to fix itself.
Okay, real Wills as will I'll

1213
01:15:16,500 --> 01:15:19,700
Wheels.
Which, you know, the concept of

1214
01:15:19,708 --> 01:15:26,400
events.
I said, I'm only two books in

1215
01:15:26,400 --> 01:15:31,100
2013, 14 book, think.
So I have a ways to go, but I'm

1216
01:15:31,100 --> 01:15:34,200
intrigued because the beginning
of the great hunt, the first

1217
01:15:34,200 --> 01:15:37,400
opening chapter has me going,
oh, you know, because, you know,

1218
01:15:37,400 --> 01:15:40,100
I want these people who I'll get
bored, I'll pull out, you know,

1219
01:15:40,100 --> 01:15:42,000
a piece of paper and I'll start
right now.

1220
01:15:42,000 --> 01:15:45,700
Yo yo your charts and stuff
trying to feel piece it

1221
01:15:45,700 --> 01:15:48,600
together.
Reincarnation is a very

1222
01:15:48,600 --> 01:15:53,700
important thing in this world
that's what the wheel does,

1223
01:15:53,900 --> 01:15:56,200
right?
Are we have the dragon reborn?

1224
01:15:57,100 --> 01:16:00,900
Yeah and I would assume that in
addition to people objects and

1225
01:16:00,900 --> 01:16:04,700
things that keep reincarnated
Concepts ideas, also get

1226
01:16:04,700 --> 01:16:06,900
reincarnated.
So yeah, like that should be.

1227
01:16:07,100 --> 01:16:13,000
Yeah.
I mean, if you think about it

1228
01:16:13,000 --> 01:16:16,300
with the Tinkers, you know, you
said they probably don't

1229
01:16:16,300 --> 01:16:19,400
remember what their original
purpose was.

1230
01:16:19,400 --> 01:16:22,200
But some of the stuff I've been
doing, I mean, I kind of get

1231
01:16:22,200 --> 01:16:27,000
that with Lord saying like the
ideas that kind of, you know,

1232
01:16:27,000 --> 01:16:32,400
they kind of are reborn as well.
Yeah, I mean, there are again,

1233
01:16:32,400 --> 01:16:36,200
3,000 years.
There are powers that have been

1234
01:16:36,200 --> 01:16:39,500
lost.
There are because they haven't

1235
01:16:39,500 --> 01:16:43,500
been Ben, this sounds kind of
crude, but since they've been

1236
01:16:43,600 --> 01:16:47,500
offering the men who can channel
the kind of being your genetic

1237
01:16:47,700 --> 01:16:51,600
diversity.
That's why I survived are weaker

1238
01:16:51,600 --> 01:16:56,200
and weaker and weaker, because
they're not, they're not

1239
01:16:56,200 --> 01:16:59,500
creating stronger children
because then that, you know,

1240
01:16:59,500 --> 01:17:02,300
maybe with males, who can
channel.

1241
01:17:02,300 --> 01:17:08,200
So, yeah, so you're getting a
lot of the wheel is trying to

1242
01:17:08,200 --> 01:17:13,400
really fix himself.
It's going to spin out more

1243
01:17:13,400 --> 01:17:18,600
powerful individuals.
Then necessary to try to fix

1244
01:17:18,600 --> 01:17:21,200
itself.
I could see that happening

1245
01:17:21,200 --> 01:17:23,300
because, you know, I didn't
think about the genetic but

1246
01:17:23,300 --> 01:17:28,100
you're right because if you cut
off a different sire lines and

1247
01:17:28,100 --> 01:17:32,100
just use it as a general term,
yeah, I can see that the one to

1248
01:17:32,100 --> 01:17:35,900
reach the do a hard reset
because, you know, there has to

1249
01:17:35,900 --> 01:17:40,500
be somebody who is particularly
strong or gifted in one area

1250
01:17:40,600 --> 01:17:44,000
that you're going to need down
the line for something that may

1251
01:17:44,000 --> 01:17:47,400
be coming up or being be.
Rewarding it IE some I used to

1252
01:17:47,400 --> 01:17:50,500
be a very powerful Fire Starter
because you're going to have to

1253
01:17:50,500 --> 01:17:53,600
need it in the battle 20 years
down the road so they have to be

1254
01:17:53,600 --> 01:17:56,000
born with you kill.
Dad, they're never born.

1255
01:17:56,500 --> 01:17:58,900
Yeah.
So they compensate by having

1256
01:17:58,900 --> 01:18:04,500
someone who can control wind as
an opposite effect or you just

1257
01:18:04,500 --> 01:18:11,500
spin out someone who controls
everything you can put all in

1258
01:18:11,500 --> 01:18:14,700
one person or two people or
three people as opposed to

1259
01:18:14,700 --> 01:18:17,200
spreading it.
Doubt over 20 or 30, right?

1260
01:18:17,200 --> 01:18:22,400
Yeah, right, yeah.
So this is going to be fun

1261
01:18:22,400 --> 01:18:24,000
times.
I'm looking forward to see how

1262
01:18:24,000 --> 01:18:29,800
they're going to do this.
But yeah, the dragon reborn is

1263
01:18:29,800 --> 01:18:33,900
going to be powerful bit.
There are, there are things that

1264
01:18:33,907 --> 01:18:38,300
have been lost.
That have to come back in order

1265
01:18:38,300 --> 01:18:44,300
for them to win this war.
The final battle is coming.

1266
01:18:46,000 --> 01:18:49,700
Okay.
Let's see.

1267
01:18:49,700 --> 01:18:52,600
Is there anything else we need
to talk about for this episode?

1268
01:18:53,800 --> 01:18:58,500
Let me look at my notes except
for the fact that, when when

1269
01:18:58,500 --> 01:19:03,800
land Moraine and I'm not naive
meet up with the other ice to

1270
01:19:03,800 --> 01:19:07,500
Die, the red eyes was what is
her name?

1271
01:19:08,200 --> 01:19:16,200
Landrum Lee and hren she gives
off a certain are like the

1272
01:19:16,200 --> 01:19:20,200
cancer perfectly take after
perfectly.

1273
01:19:20,600 --> 01:19:28,300
See yes, it's like I don't know
what to say about her but she

1274
01:19:28,300 --> 01:19:36,400
gives off a certain air but They
have apparently captured this

1275
01:19:36,400 --> 01:19:40,000
guy who claims that he is the
dragon reborn.

1276
01:19:40,000 --> 01:19:43,300
So that's going to be
interesting little game hablar.

1277
01:19:43,700 --> 01:19:46,300
Yes.
Are these names?

1278
01:19:46,300 --> 01:19:53,800
Were they killing me again?
Yes.

1279
01:19:53,800 --> 01:19:58,600
But they're not.
Normal means nine Eve.

1280
01:19:58,600 --> 01:20:01,300
Like how the cookie saying that
knave?

1281
01:20:01,800 --> 01:20:04,200
Yeah, I know and I know Kind of
correct myself.

1282
01:20:04,200 --> 01:20:08,500
My name is difficult because
their names egwene and they gave

1283
01:20:08,500 --> 01:20:13,900
me, you know?
More more with it more rain,

1284
01:20:14,300 --> 01:20:16,600
which I guess is halfway normal.
Let's see.

1285
01:20:16,600 --> 01:20:21,700
More rain, I went and Drew rein
actually looks like the way it's

1286
01:20:21,800 --> 01:20:25,400
spelled egwene.
Even looks like the way it's

1287
01:20:25,400 --> 01:20:28,600
spelled for me nine.
A nine Eve.

1288
01:20:29,600 --> 01:20:35,000
Her name is NY Nae.
That's Nate's to me when you

1289
01:20:35,000 --> 01:20:37,800
read it, at least the way that,
you know, we've been taught.

1290
01:20:37,800 --> 01:20:41,200
So, it's just where I'll get it
because I'm one of those Sighs.

1291
01:20:41,200 --> 01:20:45,800
I'm very particular about
pronouncing people's names

1292
01:20:45,800 --> 01:20:48,400
right?
Because people fuck my name up

1293
01:20:48,400 --> 01:20:51,400
all the time so yeah, I'll get
it.

1294
01:20:51,500 --> 01:20:55,100
No game is interesting.
Like Landrieu says, she tells

1295
01:20:55,100 --> 01:20:59,500
mom Moraine.
Oh yeah, he's running around

1296
01:20:59,500 --> 01:21:02,200
calling himself the dragon
reborn.

1297
01:21:02,200 --> 01:21:05,700
My he had in it.
All right, and you know what?

1298
01:21:05,700 --> 01:21:08,800
Kind of heat that brings.
So what kind of person does he

1299
01:21:08,800 --> 01:21:13,300
have to be to be running around?
Right?

1300
01:21:13,600 --> 01:21:17,800
We don't learn some interesting
things about him, okay?

1301
01:21:19,100 --> 01:21:22,000
I think, I think we cover pretty
much most of it.

1302
01:21:22,000 --> 01:21:24,500
Y'all have any final thoughts
about this episode.

1303
01:21:24,500 --> 01:21:27,200
My we just come on my, you push
through.

1304
01:21:27,200 --> 01:21:30,300
I know, I know you're trying to
get through episode 4 and it's

1305
01:21:30,300 --> 01:21:35,300
hard, but I guarantee you that
back half of that episode is so

1306
01:21:35,300 --> 01:21:40,700
fucking worth it.
I'm just, I don't know, you

1307
01:21:40,700 --> 01:21:43,600
know, opening.
And I always Talk about

1308
01:21:43,700 --> 01:21:46,700
sometimes with new series, You
Gotta Give it three or four

1309
01:21:46,700 --> 01:21:51,700
episodes before it really starts
like kicking kicking, some dirt,

1310
01:21:52,100 --> 01:21:55,300
you have to do this with this
series, because, yes, the first

1311
01:21:55,300 --> 01:21:59,100
three episodes are kind of slow.
They do kind of build the

1312
01:21:59,100 --> 01:22:01,800
character stores and everything,
but I'm telling you that fourth

1313
01:22:01,800 --> 01:22:05,200
episode from that, fourth
episode on this like, whoa,

1314
01:22:06,100 --> 01:22:11,200
whoa, you got to get that fourth
episode, their fourth episode.

1315
01:22:11,200 --> 01:22:14,500
You going to be on the next.
Never let me tell you.

1316
01:22:14,700 --> 01:22:21,400
Yeah, it's, it's a pretty.
Yeah, just push through brother,

1317
01:22:21,400 --> 01:22:24,400
push through.
I'm gonna push through on

1318
01:22:24,400 --> 01:22:28,400
cuddling cuz you cuz you said I
needed to, I'm gonna try.

1319
01:22:28,800 --> 01:22:32,200
Well, I'm sorry.
I'm no quitter episode 5.

1320
01:22:32,200 --> 01:22:37,600
This is wrong.
Yeah, I have some thoughts on

1321
01:22:37,600 --> 01:22:42,000
episode five.
So yeah, we'll talk about that

1322
01:22:42,000 --> 01:22:43,800
when we get.
Get to it but I guess for

1323
01:22:43,800 --> 01:22:45,700
episode 3, that's it for our
show.

1324
01:22:46,100 --> 01:22:49,600
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1325
01:22:49,800 --> 01:22:52,000
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1326
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