The Wheel of Time S1E2 - Fandom Hybrid Podcast #212

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Was a pirate.
Welcome back to another episode

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of The Phantom hybrid podcast.
This is hanako and I'm here with

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Anthony Lori and Mike, we are
discussing today.

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The second episode of The Wheel
of Time series before we get

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started with this episode, I do
want to get some shoutouts.

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We got mentioned on it podcast
the Discerning Geeks portal.

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Todd from that podcast mentioned
us twice on their best of 20 21

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episode.
Load.

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The first mention, was he quoted
me on something?

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I said about the passing of
Betty White on our New Year's

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Eve episode, The Laurie and I
recorded.

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And then he also mentioned us as
one of his favorite podcast for

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last year.
So thanks Todd for that shot

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out.
If you haven't checked them out,

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check them out on the Discerning
Geeks portal.

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And he also left left us a
really good review.

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And then we also got a donation
from a friend of mine named

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Corey.
He goes by Static Eddie on

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Twitter.
So thanks.

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Corey for the donation, just
wanted to get those shot outs

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before we started with the
episodes.

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So let's get into it episode 2.
Um, I washed it right before we

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started recording today because
it had been a minute and I was

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trying to remember, I was like
so what was the second episode

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about?
And then that damn white cloak

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showed up in the first part of
the episode and I was like, oh,

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we got to start with this
hateful ass.

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Oh, my God.
God valda.

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Anthony.
Give us some background on him

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because oh, he's like one of
those characters where you meet

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him and in the first five
minutes, you're like, oh, this

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dude needs to die, a horrible.
Horrible death.

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Amen.
Amen.

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Valda is Lord.
Captain commit.

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Well, he's not Lord.
Captain Commander.

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He's like a high Inquisitor.
Mmm.

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The white cloaks are pretty much
like a fundamentalist terrorist

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organization with the red
clothes from cursed.

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Basically.
Yes.

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They really are.
Yeah, they be be despised.

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I said I involved that he takes
that to an extreme where if it

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was up to him, he would wipe out
all the ice that he would burn,

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tar, valon to the ground and
just be done with anyone who

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could Channel.
Like for the white cloaks

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channeling is something that was
given to them, is something that

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belongs to the Creator and only
the Creator should be able to do

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it.
And when those he's doing it,

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his Blasphemous so they should
be all destroyed and he takes

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this to to an extreme.
I was going to ask because the

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way he comes across as beginning
of this episode, like he has one

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of the I stood, I tied up to a
steak.

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He's cut off both of her hands.
He's removed her ring and placed

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it on the belt with several
other Rings Simon.

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Some of this.
She's not the first I see that

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he's caught and thank you.
That first scene tells you

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everything you need to know
about bother.

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Oh my God.
Bless you, everything.

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Even to the point where he's
eating, I think that's a little

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bird and he's like, yeah, it
cuts the corners of your mouth

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just enough to where it doesn't
hurt but you bleed and enhances

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the flavor of the.
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That's, he's He's terrible.
I was like dude what happened to

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you like who you want to take my
life?

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Who hurt you baby, who hurt you
or you?

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You know it was like one of
those things I was trying to

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figure out like is he jealous?
Because he can't Channel.

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And is that why he's so adamant
about or is he just that hateful

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in general?
Well you know what happens to

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people who are sociopaths and
Psychopaths they get into an

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organization like Like this and
they become zealots and they

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take that psychopathy and and
those issues they have any

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challenge through what they're
doing and that's what he does.

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So in the book is not real
clear, what his motivations are,

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but we just know that he is, he
considers himself like the ideal

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white cloak, he is the ideal
white cookies, also blademaster,

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which they don't talk about this
in the streets.

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But he is also very Be very good
with the sword.

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It's not the one that's in the
beginning of book two, I would

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have to, I would have to look
they have a meeting at the

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beginning of the book.
I have to work.

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It's been too long so I haven't
I'm only halfway through book

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one so I don't know.
See I cheat.

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I do audiobooks.
But when you see him in this

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scene and the way that he's
acting and just talking to his

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calm voice, and I think what
makes him even more creepy for

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me is that he's doing all of
this with the smile.

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Like he's genuinely enjoying
this and you know who he, he

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made me think of he made me
think of Dolores Umbridge like

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he is a more extreme version of
Dolores Umbridge because

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Dolores.
Wow.

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While she was a little bit
sadistic, she never actually

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killed anyone and she really
thought that she was right.

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Do I what she was doing?
That we know of that, we know

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that that is true that we know
of she's actually one of my evil

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and more evil and more
righteous.

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Awful awful of evil evil yet
lovable it.

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Awful evil neutral.
Yeah, Dad do is so extreme.

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But because he's really is he'd
be have a code, they follows the

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code, he has rules but he's just
a little bit evil and if these

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two okay so we're not going to
order because I got to talk

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about him.
So later on in the episode when

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they come across when the white
coats come across Moraine and

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you know Randon all of them and
he gets you know he gets to the

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point where he has to question
or inspect her to make sure

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she's not.
I see By the fact that he walks

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around and he just starts
touching her to, like, I don't

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know what he's looking for.
Like I know he looked at her

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hands to see if she had the
ring, but I don't know what

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other physical characteristics.
I said, I have that made him

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like, he's rubbing on her back.
Like he's trying to feel full

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horns coming out of her back or
something, but before I even

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could say it out loud watching
and my you, I'm watching this by

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myself.
No, one else is with me, but I'm

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I came to myself while I'm
watching this and I'm like, hey

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got some nerve and then land
says the things, you know about

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what I'm from the Borderlands
where we understand that you

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don't touch a woman without
permission unless you want to

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lose your hands or something
like that.

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And I was like, oh okay, so it's
not just me like he's just

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literally molesting Moraine,
trying to find whatever he's

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trying to find out, he's just
touching her and he's talking

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and he's he's talking.
In that threatening

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non-threatening way.
Like he's talking about what

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they do to I said die or you
know, the the I guess the sinful

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nature of I said, I or whatever.
I can't remember his exact

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verbiage but he's doing this.
And he's walking around, he's

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feeling I Moran and just
touching her.

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And when you doing this sniffing
her and it was gonna bother

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Hanukkah.
This is dude, I mean I

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understand you're trying to But
low profile because you don't

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want him to think your eyes to
die.

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And you don't want him to think
about these, you know, these

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kids who may have the power to
channel.

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But oh my God, that bother me so
much.

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Like why the fuck are you
touching her?

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And you can ask your questions.
You don't have to.

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Why are you touching her?
Like she's not.

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Oh, that bothered me.
So he lives in the personal

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spaces.
He's you don't get killed.

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I'm watching it.
I'm watching it now.

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And it's like, Like he is like
and land is trying not to cut

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both his arms off.
Yes it's like if you don't get

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your mother-fucking hands.
Yes yeah.

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He's a huge.
He was really creepy.

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Shit.
He's very righteous in his

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beliefs.
Oh my goodness and he just I

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don't I know that you know we're
doing this episode by episode

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but I've already you know watch
the full season and even there's

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I think Okay.
But there's 11 episode later on

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where he's kind of the same way
but in a more aggressive I was

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just like, dude just somebody
needs to just like Aggressive

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than this.
I mean I'm sorry but he's a he

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look certain people need to
realize and I know I'm saying

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this out of context
tongue-in-cheek yes 1985 and it

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gets worse so buzz off.
He's just one of those

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characters like from the moment
he's on the screen.

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First of all I'm just looking at
him like oh okay.

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I mean thinking about his
character side.

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I'm like okay, look at him, nice
try Chocolate black man in this

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all white outfit like he looks
good.

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Then he opened his mouth and I
was like he didn't know but you

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know I have seen in conversation
in the last couple of months

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where you know people were
talking about the fact that we

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don't get any really complex or
delicious like black evil

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characters, like they're always
kind of they're not like That

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grand scope of evil before our
black characters and and, you

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know, people like we need like
more evil black characters.

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We need them to fill those
spaces in the show that they

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have that complexity and that
what?

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Okay, okay.
Y'all ask for it and you got it

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because this dude right here,
From the moment he got on the

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screen I was like, oh, okay.
And then I was like, oh wait.

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Oh no.
Hmm in Spades.

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Pardon the pun.
He's even of course he's killed.

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I think, I don't know that it
was like five or six.

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Maybe seven sevens.
Not seven.

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I think Mariah meringue said it
when they were Arresting the

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horses, she said tool.
And she said, she said, did you

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see my?
Did you see my sister's Rings?

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Seven of them now.
So that means that there's one

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IC die that's out there in the
world that or unless unless

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they're counting her.
But I don't I don't know if they

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count her because never mind
that that goes into something

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from later on episode.
But yeah, so I mean he almost

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got her Luckily, she's a good.
I can't say liar, because she

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kind of specifies that in this
episode that she does not lie.

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She always tells him to, no, she
cannot.

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Yeah, she cannot lie.
The oath Rod makes it physically

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impossible for them to lie.
Hmm, when you become truth, They

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were over West.
I mean she just looked out a lot

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of shit just like she's waiting
for a selected.

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What?
She said that's more key.

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Is he's very selective in what
she says and how she says it, we

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can't even really twist the
truth.

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Yeah, well yeah.
I meant she, she has a way to

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work that.
Like, yeah, but what she says in

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the episode she says, she said,
words are important and how we

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use them is important.
And we've actually said this,

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something similar talking about
a couple of other A shows where,

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you know, some a character will
say something.

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And it's kind of like, well,
that's technically not alive

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because of the way that they
said, it's like you always have

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to wash the way you say things
because you can say things and

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make people think one thing when
you mean another but it's just

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the content.
It's just the way that you say

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it.
The way you construct your

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sentences and how creative you
can be with your speech.

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And she does that.
If you think about the way that

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she answered everything, like
you Might she doesn't tell a

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lie, she told the truth.
And even when egwene says

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something to her she was like,
will you lie back there?

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She was like, did I?
She was like an egg Wayne said,

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well, you do you really have a
sister and she was like, all I

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said I are my sisters and you
know, she says, certain things.

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She was like, just pay attention
and I was like, okay because she

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says she's a lady from a fallen
house.

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Hmm.
It's we don't know a lot about

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it characters, but yes.
He is from a falling out.

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Okay, so that was a true.
She tells you a lot with that,

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but if you're paying attention,
Mmm.

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Yeah.
You could hear, was he saying,

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but he's more concerned with,
trying to find out if she's not.

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So that is not right, like a
square house or, you know, where

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you from where you going, right?
You didn't ask very specific

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questions, right?
Because I would think, okay?

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Given what we know about the
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2.
Episodes, but we know that, you

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know, all the I said I are
women, we know that they have

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Waters which are, is it that
they all are men or that,

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they're mostly men because we
haven't seen too much of the

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okay, their monthly ma'am.
Okay, thank you.

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So and then of course, she's got
these younger people which

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probably wouldn't Mean, much to
him in the scheme of things, but

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to see her and the way she's
dressed and then to seal.

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And I would think that if you
are familiar with how the I

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said, I work and how they
operate that.

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You see this woman, you see this
man traveling, that might be a

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clue.
But yeah, and and he could have

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just asked her, are you?
I said that.

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And she would have had to giving
me giving it, but the thing is

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he doesn't the the white cloaks
don't truly try to understand.

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I said I so even if you told him
that they take Oaths not to

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tell.
Will I he wouldn't believe it.

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Yeah.
He say they're gonna lie anyway.

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Yeah why would I believe that
that's--that is a Surface

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purpose, right?
Even if she's even The Esther,

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he knows, he knows he's not
going to ask because he knows

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she's going to lie, that's his
perspective, right?

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So he tries to go about the
different way, so the other

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question in Europe and be creepy
ship.

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Right, right.
Right.

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So, the other question I have
is, and I guess this probably is

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self explanatory or kind of
obvious, but I'm assuming, if

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he's killed all of those eyes to
die, chances are he's killed

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their Waters to because the
waters are there too.

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Protect them correct.
Yes.

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So chances are he's killed them
to in his pursuit of killing.

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I said, I yes, and does he just
kill the I said, I outrider

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like, is there a, is there like
a trial that he does for them or

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or does he just questioned them
for information and then just

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this is go with the show
depiction of him?

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Okay, he ties them up on this
stage and ask them questions and

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then he burns.
To having him.

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He's a lovely guy on top of
everything else.

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Okay, yeah, his goal is to
eliminate Isis guy from the

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world like we're are, where are
the rest of you?

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Like where can I find more of
you?

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Okay, you're not going to answer
what?

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I don't have John and once again
I said they don't talk about

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this but he is a blade Master,
there aren't a whole lot of

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them.
And there are very few Warriors,

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who would be able to, if Other
than the fact that he has

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numbers, like he can overwhelm,
they could overwhelm a Warder

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easily, with their numbers.
It will be very difficult.

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He lose a lot.
But chances are being a blade

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Master.
He probably did it himself,

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okay?
Because there aren't many that

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could, that could go toe-to-toe
with oh.

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Okay.
This or but they don't make that

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clear in the shower, okay.
The variables in the student

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observation that he would have
had to go through a lot of

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orders to kill come on.
Chances are let me think about

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it.
Any of those rings.

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I don't think it was Rings were
red.

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Because I don't think a red
sister will let any man get that

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close to them, right.
And the rest is just don't have

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Waters correct?
No they don't.

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Okay.
Okay so yeah, I just I just

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happened to think about it
because if you think about it

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with the way Moraine and land
are even with just the four and

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I'm going to keep calling them
kids because they're younger

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than the, than the rest of them.
But like every time ran says

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something against Moran, or he
raised his voice land, Is all up

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in his face.
Like what you want to do, what

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you want to do.
So it just got me to thinking

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that in order for vauban to get
that close to a sister, he had

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to go through their water.
So it just, you know, I was just

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wondering about that.
Like, huh?

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So he's been doing a lot of
killing just to get to these

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girls or just to get to these
women.

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Yeah.
Mmm.

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Okay, so yeah valda.
He's just he's just all out

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creepy.
I just had to get that out the

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way since he was the first one
in the episode anyway but I was

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like let's just get him out the
way because I don't want to talk

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about him, the rest of the show.
He's just so creepy and he's so

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evil.
And he does it with a smile.

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And I'm just like he's going to
be one of those characters

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that's going to be around for a
while because he's just that

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evil like Right now, and now we
can't.

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And also we want to be mindful
of applying him to the rest of

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the white cloaks because not all
the white cloaks are like him.

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They Hayden appear that way.
Yeah, they had some of the

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beliefs but you know they do
want to eliminate isil that but

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they're not crew like kids.
Okay.

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Yeah I kind of noticed that even
with the with the white clothes

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when they came across the white
clothes during their travel and

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I guess it was the the other guy
who was in Actually one who

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actually, would you please step
off your horses?

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And, you know, the way that he
talked to them, and, you know,

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Marie has her wound from the
trollops and you know she was

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doing her best to not say
anything about it, but when

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valda pushed into her shoulder,
she couldn't help but have a

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reaction because of how much
pain she's in.

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And when she's telling them
about the attack, you know, of

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course she doesn't use the word
trial if she just says, it was a

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beast and it had like a mouth,
like, A cab or and then that guy

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says, would you mind showing me
your wound?

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You know, it was like it was
such a contrast between him and

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valda where the valda was just
touching her, just whatever.

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And this dude was like, would
you mind showing it to his like

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he didn't even approached her to
look at it himself?

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He asked her permission, you
know, he basically acknowledged

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her agency and it was just like,
okay, so all white cloaks they

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may They may be, as you say
zealots or they may have these

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beliefs but not all of them are
assholes like valda.

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Okay.
Noted most of them are but now.

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Well, this particular gentleman
apparently was not, but maybe

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it's just, I don't know.
Maybe it's just the

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questionnaires to because valda
makes it very clear when they

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are about to split what, you
know, part ways you know, the

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he's going to take the
questioners to, I guess go look

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for more ice.
To die and they're going to

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continue on their Journey.
He says, something about your

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purposes are different from
ours.

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We have a, we have a different
purpose to questioners have a

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different purpose.
And I was like, the way that he

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said it to that guy was like,
yes, we all have our mission but

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you go on your Merry Little way.
We have more important things to

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do.
It was almost like one of those.

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He was like well my job is more
important than yours.

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Like we do more important work.
And I was just like, okay, he's

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one of those types.
Yes, one of those.

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I'm a guy was Gia from born
hauled.

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Who's one of the Lord captains.
So he's one of the guys in

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charge, okay?
But, but Bob is still made it

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seem like yeah, you're in
charge.

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But I'm more important than you
go.

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Along your journey.
We're going to go do what we're

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supposed to do.
Yeah.

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He definitely had a father
douchebag five about him.

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Looks like you got another one
of these.

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Yeah, it was Mmm very much so.
So I um, and you know, we talk

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about this all the time, how,
you know, a lot of fantasy, they

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follow the same tropes, they
have like the same types of

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characters.
I really did have.

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I was comparing it to curse
because it was just kind of one

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of those.
I was like, oh, he's like the

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red cloaks.
Oh, that's like you said, my

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father douchebag that that's
him.

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So I'm like really is.
Okay.

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Yeah, he's going to be one of
those characters that gets on my

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nerves.
In this series but he's probably

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also going to be very important
and in terms of pushing the

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story along but I was like, oh
this dude just he could have

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been.
Okay, but the thing that made me

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say no, he has to die right now.
Him putting his hands all over

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Moraine.
I was like, no, no, no.

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He's gotta go, he's gotta go.
But anyway, let's let's move on

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from him because well anyway so
let's get back to the quote

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unquote kids.
You have Randy Gwen pairing and

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Matt on the run with marine and
land and they're basically they

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are trying to lead the
trollope's, one away from their

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Village so that they don't kill
anybody else there.

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But also Moraine is kind of
giving them bits and pieces of

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what she thinks.
She knows about them as far as

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their relation to or the fact
that they may be the dragon

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reborn and she's giving them
just enough information to keep

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them against to keep them
following her as she tries to

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me.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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For everybody except for ran
like Rand has like, no, you

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ain't giving us enough
information.

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Where are we going?
Why are we going there with?

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Makes you think?
I mean, he's like he's

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questioning everything.
This laurynas, many Ranch, I

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read science fiction, I read
science fiction, fantasy ninety,

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seven point, nine nine, nine of
all these books, they start out

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in the village, The Tavern to
school, whatever.

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The adults.
Don't tell the kids yet.

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Newsflash.
If you would tell the kid,

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what's Poppin, you might not
have XYZ downline in the ranch

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Dumbledore.
Yeah, exactly.

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I mean, you have a point, I mean
thinking about we just had this

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discussion a couple of days ago,
we just talked about Harry

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Potter because of the 20th
anniversary, if you think about

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Harry Potter and his journey and
Dumbledore Dumbledore, I could

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have told him at the beginning.
And it would have eliminated

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half the shit here.
We had nothing?

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Yes, that's that's a whole other
conversation, what?

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But yeah, barks you what we're
discussing right now, just tell

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the kids, what's going on or
lying or at least give him the

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highlights.
That's all I'm saying.

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You like in in the Aragon
Aragorn for Aragon series about

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the dragon if they had just told
him from the beginning,

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everything a lot of pain and
suffering could have been saved

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for later.
Yeah, dragonlance, if they would

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have told them what was going on
with the potatoes and

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Bill graph, the sorcerer he told
Gary on everything.

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Like in the beginning he said
this is who you are.

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This is what you're going to
have to do and this is how we're

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going to do it and it was so
different to read where the old

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sorcerer.
Like from the beginning, told

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him, everything like this is
what you're supposed to do.

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You have to kill a God and this
is how we're going to do it.

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Well, thank you.
Devil tender Escape until tender

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the beginning and it happened
worked out.

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I mean he'd be until the end or
anything because remember the

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Intel any of the kids.
Anything that's right.

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That's right.
That's right, you're right?

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Yeah you found out.
I'm sorry scratch that when

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you're telling me over and over.
That's right.

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That's right.
I just I don't understand like

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how and I Okay, so I'm thinking
about this on two levels because

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I'm thinking about it as they're
not giving these people the

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information because it's part of
their character growth like it's

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helping them to learn deductive
reasoning and critical thinking

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all of this stuff that you need.
I understand that.

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At the same time, this kind of
like you can eliminate so much,

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think about okay, I'm again, my
my brain is stuck in Harry

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Potter right now.
Think about all the people who

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died fighting Voldemort fighting
especially like the final

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battle, all of this stuff who
didn't have to die.

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If Dumbledore has said, hey yes,
I told you about the horcruxes,

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but let me tell you what they
are.

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Let me tell you how you can
destroy them thinking about it.

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You know, one of the clips that
I've seen from Harry Potter and

447
00:27:35,500 --> 00:27:38,600
Days was when they were trying
to destroy the locket in the

448
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:43,400
woods and Ron says, Dumbledore
sends you on this mission to

449
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:46,200
find the horcrux.
But it doesn't tell you where

450
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:50,700
they are or how to destroy them.
Like how the fuck is that

451
00:27:50,700 --> 00:27:54,400
helpful?
And you think about it with all

452
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:57,500
of these things that you guys
have mentioned is like there

453
00:27:57,500 --> 00:28:01,300
could have been yeah and yes I
know it's part of the story.

454
00:28:01,300 --> 00:28:04,000
It helps you know, move the
story along and the store will

455
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,600
be a lot shorter if they knew.
Ooh all the information but

456
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:09,600
still you're talking about
lives.

457
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:13,800
You could do just a just just a
little bit of information, can

458
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:20,400
go a long way, but then I start
thinking about Infinity war, and

459
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:22,400
when dr.
Strange was sitting there and he

460
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:25,900
was looking at all the different
possibilities for how they can

461
00:28:25,900 --> 00:28:28,800
defeat Thanos.
And there was only one

462
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:30,800
possibility that would have
worked.

463
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:35,000
And when Tony asked him about
it, he basically was like I

464
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:38,500
can't tell you.
Otherwise it may not happen is

465
00:28:38,500 --> 00:28:41,600
like one of those things where
it's where certain things have

466
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,900
to happen in a specific way, in
order to come to this end

467
00:28:44,900 --> 00:28:48,100
result, you know?
Because think about it at that.

468
00:28:48,300 --> 00:28:51,300
Point in time if dr.
Strange would have said, you're

469
00:28:51,300 --> 00:28:54,500
going to have to sacrifice your
life in order to defeat Thanos.

470
00:28:54,500 --> 00:28:57,200
Do we really think Tony would
have done that?

471
00:28:57,300 --> 00:29:00,000
I don't know if I think he would
have done it by that that when

472
00:29:00,300 --> 00:29:04,400
they want to try you want to try
to figure out a different way to

473
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:07,600
make it work or try to figure
out a different way to defeat

474
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:12,000
Thanos without him having to
lose his life or without Natasha

475
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,600
If he if dr.
Strange said, well, you and

476
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:16,700
Natasha we're have to lose your
lives.

477
00:29:16,700 --> 00:29:19,800
In order to defeat Thanos Tony
would have been like I know

478
00:29:19,900 --> 00:29:22,700
there's got to be another way so
high.

479
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:27,200
It's like well mostly future
reading future reading is really

480
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:30,800
weird that way those like in
some stories like they'll tell

481
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:33,100
the person and the person will
be like no that's not going to

482
00:29:33,100 --> 00:29:36,200
happen but it is happening
anyway because it's going to

483
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:39,200
because it's already foretold
that is going to happen and then

484
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:41,800
there are the people who don't
say any know what's going to

485
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:44,600
happen but don't say anything
because like it's like it's not

486
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:47,200
like you said was strange is
like, it might not happen.

487
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:49,400
So I want to take the chance
Chance of me telling you you

488
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:51,500
being like, fuck this shit.
I'm supposed to write here and

489
00:29:51,500 --> 00:29:54,800
it's not going to happen so
there, but it's like, I mean

490
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,500
sometimes.
Yeah, I mean you just kind of

491
00:29:57,508 --> 00:30:01,300
have to really depends on the
story like like who's telling

492
00:30:01,300 --> 00:30:05,800
the future and how and how they
think if they think that it's a

493
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:09,000
it's an absolute Point.
Like in what if like it's going

494
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:13,300
to happen regardless of whatever
he does then it doesn't matter.

495
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:18,900
Yeah, vote for Harry Potter.
I think we kind of learned

496
00:30:18,900 --> 00:30:21,500
later.
That Dumbledore was like, well I

497
00:30:21,500 --> 00:30:24,100
really couldn't tell you
everything because I wasn't sure

498
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:27,300
if your connection with
Voldemort with both ways.

499
00:30:27,300 --> 00:30:31,100
Like if I told you everything
the golden work with now, hey,

500
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:34,200
yeah.
I'm just I'm just, I'm just

501
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:38,000
throwing it out there and then
give me like in Star Wars if

502
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:42,900
Obi-Wan had told Luke, will ya,
Darth Vader, this sociopath

503
00:30:42,900 --> 00:30:45,500
who's killing it.
Everyone is your dad is?

504
00:30:45,500 --> 00:30:47,600
Yeah, I don't I don't know how
he would.

505
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:51,700
Take that right with a baby.
Soften the blow later with Darth

506
00:30:51,700 --> 00:30:57,000
Vader tells him but we would not
have gotten that moment.

507
00:30:57,000 --> 00:31:00,300
He's right.
But back to the story at hand

508
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:06,000
Marine, didn't have, she didn't
have to push a lot to give him

509
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:09,800
to come with her.
She simply said the dark one

510
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:13,000
knows the same thing.
I know that one of you is a

511
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:16,400
dragon Reborn And he's going to
keep sending products to your

512
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:21,400
family until he kills you so you
can have to leave now, if you

513
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:24,900
can stay if you want to, but
they're going to keep coming and

514
00:31:24,900 --> 00:31:27,300
everyone's going to be there
everyone that you love.

515
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:30,500
Yeah.
So she didn't have to tell them

516
00:31:30,500 --> 00:31:34,300
anything because she told them
just enough for them to know

517
00:31:34,300 --> 00:31:37,700
that they had to go with her at
least for protection to protect

518
00:31:37,700 --> 00:31:41,300
their family ranking 1.
They want to live come with me,

519
00:31:41,500 --> 00:31:44,800
you know, while you're there.
By the way,

520
00:32:02,700 --> 00:32:04,600
living with people that I've
known all my life.

521
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:07,900
I'm talking about personal
experience would come up to me

522
00:32:08,300 --> 00:32:12,300
and say you need to leave town
because Ex-Wives he's going to

523
00:32:12,300 --> 00:32:15,700
kill everyone in the He'll
because you're in a town, I

524
00:32:15,700 --> 00:32:18,700
would have gone with them but I
would have said, okay before we

525
00:32:18,700 --> 00:32:22,500
leave answer to this question is
question, this question, let me

526
00:32:22,500 --> 00:32:25,100
go get my grandfather's rifle.
Okay well answer this question

527
00:32:25,100 --> 00:32:29,600
and now we can go I've want a
little bit more information on

528
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:34,000
why heavily count.
I mean these are kids that have

529
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:38,400
literally never been off the
mountain before it is difficult

530
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:53,700
when she says look up there.
Yeah, and I know that in that

531
00:32:53,700 --> 00:32:56,500
little tiny little village,
somebody has a Cellar where they

532
00:32:56,500 --> 00:32:59,200
can hide.
Somebody knows way to escape to

533
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,900
the would, I mean, come on, the
kids could have hit.

534
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:09,600
I mean, you know, I would, I
would think that if magic wasn't

535
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:13,000
involved, but but considering
the fact that these kids are

536
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:17,200
being Out because, yeah, they
can possibly Channel.

537
00:33:17,500 --> 00:33:22,200
I'm assuming that the trolleys
or the Fades, like the one we

538
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:26,000
saw in this episode, I'm
assuming they can probably feel

539
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:29,600
that power, no matter how minut
it might be.

540
00:33:29,900 --> 00:33:34,000
So, I think, in that case, there
really would not be a way for

541
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:38,200
them to just sit there and hide
Because, unless they know what a

542
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:43,500
way to mask that power to mass
being detected, there's just no

543
00:33:43,500 --> 00:33:46,000
way That that can happen.
I don't think okay.

544
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:49,400
Yeah, I want to, I want to
interject something, it's not a

545
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:55,300
spoiler, but Miranda about to
say is not a theory marine

546
00:33:55,300 --> 00:33:56,500
marine.
It's a bit.

547
00:33:56,500 --> 00:33:58,400
The four of them were to
variant.

548
00:33:59,100 --> 00:34:02,300
We don't give the explanation of
with to viren Art.

549
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:08,500
Hmm, when the Creator created
the wheel, he also had either

550
00:34:08,500 --> 00:34:11,400
other things happened,
basically, whenever something

551
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:16,000
kind of is off in the will, or
is Not functioning properly, the

552
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:20,500
crane will spin out at revering
that person will bend the wheel

553
00:34:20,500 --> 00:34:26,199
back to where it needs to be.
Okay, now it is very rare for

554
00:34:26,500 --> 00:34:31,699
there to be 42 variant in the
same place at the same time,

555
00:34:31,900 --> 00:34:34,100
okay?
In the book, only three of them,

556
00:34:34,100 --> 00:34:36,000
a terrarium.
I'm not going to take you before

557
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:39,100
person who wasn't supposed to
be, but they made this person.

558
00:34:39,100 --> 00:34:41,699
That's a variant for purpose of
the show, which is perfectly

559
00:34:41,699 --> 00:34:44,699
fine.
That is separate from being able

560
00:34:44,699 --> 00:34:49,600
to channel, not all to Varian
can Channel, okay?

561
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:51,400
And that all channel is Art
appearance.

562
00:34:51,699 --> 00:34:53,500
Okay?
Thank you for clearing that up.

563
00:34:53,600 --> 00:35:00,500
Okay, has a specific person
design to make sure everything

564
00:35:00,500 --> 00:35:03,200
stays on path.
Whenever the dark one screw

565
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:06,900
something up in the wheel after
variant is spun out to put it

566
00:35:06,900 --> 00:35:09,300
back on track.
I have a question because I'm

567
00:35:09,300 --> 00:35:15,300
reading the books right now.
How do People recognize one of

568
00:35:15,300 --> 00:35:19,900
them and do they instinctively
know that they are.

569
00:35:21,500 --> 00:35:26,700
Okay.
So to answer that question there

570
00:35:26,700 --> 00:35:32,000
are they can be people who can
be sensitive to the pool.

571
00:35:32,100 --> 00:35:33,800
They call it the pool of the
tahrir.

572
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:40,000
Mm-hmm to Veterans can feel that
pool with each other, and that

573
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:42,600
is something that I don't know
if we're going to get him this.

574
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:48,500
So bit in the book, they are
very aware of how the more they

575
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:52,800
learn about being a civilian.
They are very aware of where

576
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:56,600
it's over.
I yeah, I have visions of each

577
00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:59,400
other, right?
They can kind of feel each other

578
00:35:59,700 --> 00:36:04,100
see each others energy energy
like they can feel the proximity

579
00:36:04,100 --> 00:36:06,800
to each other.
It's not like a bond, right?

580
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:10,200
But baby it's almost like a
gravitational pull.

581
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:11,100
Okay.
But you're not answering.

582
00:36:11,100 --> 00:36:12,600
My question.
Can do they go or not?

583
00:36:12,700 --> 00:36:19,300
The other people, you got the
The Dark One.

584
00:36:19,500 --> 00:36:24,000
Well, the dark one can feel it.
He knows because they are

585
00:36:24,500 --> 00:36:28,700
actively always engaged with
changing and altering the wheel.

586
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:32,600
So, it's subconscious.
But what my question was, she

587
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:36,000
tells them that they're that.
How does she does?

588
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:39,200
She know?
Because she's I said die, is it?

589
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:42,000
You just walk down the street
and all of a sudden, you know,

590
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:45,000
it's like Fine, catch up.
How do they know that these

591
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:48,500
people are to various other
people?

592
00:36:48,500 --> 00:36:51,200
Not them if I remember
correctly.

593
00:36:52,300 --> 00:36:56,100
See didn't really know in the
books so I don't know how

594
00:36:56,100 --> 00:36:58,400
they're going to explain that in
the show.

595
00:36:58,700 --> 00:37:02,000
Okay, that I'm so sorry to press
you, but I'm in a I'm a I'm a

596
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,400
third of book 2 and I got some
questions.

597
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:11,100
So so she she knew it seemed
like in the show that she kind

598
00:37:11,100 --> 00:37:16,200
of asked she encounter each one
of them in the village is almost

599
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:21,700
like, I felt like she sensed the
one power in them or the

600
00:37:21,700 --> 00:37:25,000
potential for that to be in them
because at first when they first

601
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:28,700
get to the village and Lan is
asking her, she was like, I

602
00:37:28,700 --> 00:37:32,200
don't know.
And then it's like a, she sees

603
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:34,800
them.
I feel like she's kind of drawn

604
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,800
to them to the point where she
knows that it's them.

605
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:41,200
And then thinking about what you
just said Anthony about the fact

606
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:44,100
that they can kind of sense each
other and it's like a pool

607
00:37:44,100 --> 00:37:47,200
towards each other.
Even if they didn't know, they

608
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:52,500
were to Vern, maybe that
explains why Those particular

609
00:37:52,500 --> 00:37:57,800
four have such a close Bond like
even though I'm not sure if

610
00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:00,800
they're at many other people in
the village that are around that

611
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:04,700
same age but it's very clear
they're all best friends they're

612
00:38:04,700 --> 00:38:08,600
all very closely knit with each
other they're very protective of

613
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:11,200
each other.
It's kind of like you know aside

614
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:14,100
from Randy Gwen.
It almost feels like there is

615
00:38:14,100 --> 00:38:18,000
like a familial bond between all
of them and of course that could

616
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:21,400
possibly just be from them
growing up in the same.

617
00:38:21,500 --> 00:38:25,200
Village all of their lives, but
they seem to have a particularly

618
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:28,800
close Bond if they, if you can
and she wouldn't okay.

619
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:33,200
The thing about the blue Asia is
there, I think it was before

620
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:38,900
they're like the CIA to die.
They have a spy Network, they

621
00:38:38,900 --> 00:38:44,300
have ways of using information.
So one of the things that she

622
00:38:44,300 --> 00:38:49,200
knows she knows the exact age of
the Dragon reborn.

623
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:55,600
So Once he, she got that, and
she got the information on the

624
00:38:55,600 --> 00:39:00,200
kids in that area, because she's
been looking for 20 years, mmm,

625
00:39:00,900 --> 00:39:04,000
trying to find the dragon
reborn.

626
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:08,900
And so, it didn't take her long
to figure out there.

627
00:39:08,900 --> 00:39:12,200
Something different about these
individuals.

628
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:14,400
There's something special about
them.

629
00:39:16,100 --> 00:39:22,200
The thing is, women cannot
sense, the 1 power, In men.

630
00:39:24,100 --> 00:39:26,600
No, not since then one power in
them.

631
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:29,200
You cannot see them.
Weep.

632
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:30,900
I don't know if they're going to
do this in the show, but in the

633
00:39:30,900 --> 00:39:33,900
book, they cannot see man
channel.

634
00:39:33,900 --> 00:39:36,700
They cannot feel them Channel or
anything.

635
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:38,300
Yeah.
You mentioned that last time.

636
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:41,400
Yeah.
So she wasn't like she sense

637
00:39:41,700 --> 00:39:45,500
that they have the 1 power but
based on her research and her

638
00:39:45,500 --> 00:39:50,200
knowledge in which she knows in
the signs of who the dragon

639
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:53,700
reborn should be, That's how she
narrowed it down to those kids.

640
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:56,900
Okay.
Now, okay.

641
00:39:57,000 --> 00:40:00,700
Now I think one of the reasons
why they haven't really talked

642
00:40:00,700 --> 00:40:04,300
about the to variant thing is, I
don't know if he actually is

643
00:40:04,300 --> 00:40:09,100
going to explain why she knows
there to ruin because they're

644
00:40:09,100 --> 00:40:11,300
things.
Like, Matt has his uncanny

645
00:40:11,300 --> 00:40:16,300
ability, the wind gambling bits,
and to throw Dyson, always win?

646
00:40:16,700 --> 00:40:20,700
Why am I not surprised?
But in the show, the introduced

647
00:40:20,700 --> 00:40:27,200
him as a loser.
This is a different format okay

648
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:31,300
that's why he go as far as he is
in the book but you know, to

649
00:40:31,300 --> 00:40:34,700
answer your question, I don't
know if they're sufficiently

650
00:40:34,700 --> 00:40:37,700
going to be able to explain how
she knows their to viren.

651
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:44,600
And if they're going to explain
that, if they could be different

652
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:48,200
from the book that she could
actually sense them challenge or

653
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:51,600
being able to channel, okay, she
should not be able to do that,

654
00:40:51,700 --> 00:40:53,600
okay?
Okay, cuz I don't for the men

655
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:57,600
for the girl, she can but not
for the boys.

656
00:40:57,700 --> 00:40:59,400
Okay?
That okay, that makes sense

657
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:03,400
because that that went into a
couple different questions

658
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:06,500
because there's something in the
first episode.

659
00:41:06,500 --> 00:41:10,400
So, well, this episode that was
about The Travelers.

660
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:15,300
But I'll I will address that was
a tinker's.

661
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:19,000
Sorry.
Yeah I will discuss that when we

662
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:21,800
get to that because I have I
have I have some quiz because I

663
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:23,500
read the first book and do
nothing else.

664
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:26,500
I've bursting with questions and
I'm trying to pay through as we

665
00:41:26,500 --> 00:41:30,000
need a.
So I'm trying not to ramble only

666
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:34,000
you things, but yeah, then it's
going to be interesting to see

667
00:41:34,700 --> 00:41:38,700
where they go with this.
We obviously, by since we're

668
00:41:38,700 --> 00:41:41,200
skipping around, we know the end
of episode, there's something

669
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:43,500
special about Painter.
Mmm.

670
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:47,700
And I know what that is probably
has the ability to sense that

671
00:41:47,700 --> 00:41:52,000
he's different in that way.
Okay, suppose it rains

672
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:58,900
background is a little shaky.
And and Max just different.

673
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:03,000
So she could be taking the leap
of faith which is something that

674
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:06,500
she's going to have to do in
order fluids, but she probably

675
00:42:06,500 --> 00:42:11,200
knows at this point that you can
Wayne is a Wilder, they gwaine

676
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:13,900
can China because she can feel
it from her, okay?

677
00:42:13,900 --> 00:42:15,000
And that's what I was going to
say.

678
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:19,500
But given the information that
you just said that I guess for

679
00:42:19,500 --> 00:42:22,500
me kind of explains why she's
single Zig when out in this

680
00:42:22,500 --> 00:42:25,800
episode and takes her you know,
she takes her into the Forest.

681
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:30,400
And she kind of talks to her
about using the 1 power and what

682
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:34,000
they can and cannot do with it.
One of the things that she says,

683
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:37,900
the three Oaths that she talks
about with them, she says, the

684
00:42:37,900 --> 00:42:39,600
30s are to speak.
No word.

685
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:43,000
That is not true to make no
weapon with which one person may

686
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:45,800
kill another.
And to never use the one power

687
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:48,000
as a weapon.
Except in the last extreme

688
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:50,900
defense of her life or the life
of her water or another.

689
00:42:50,900 --> 00:42:55,200
I said, I, so we're to went to
defend or to kill Shadows Fall.

690
00:42:57,300 --> 00:42:58,900
They didn't say that in the
show.

691
00:42:58,900 --> 00:43:00,900
See that?
Yeah, it's even so.

692
00:43:00,900 --> 00:43:06,200
But yeah, that is actually never
used one power as weapon except

693
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:08,500
against Shadow small and dark
friends.

694
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:15,600
And in the last, Defense of
yourself a Warder.

695
00:43:15,700 --> 00:43:18,700
Not your water, a water or
another acid.

696
00:43:18,700 --> 00:43:23,700
I oh, okay, so okay, so I wonder
if they change that wording

697
00:43:23,700 --> 00:43:27,400
specifically for the show
because she specifically said,

698
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:30,900
or the life of her Warder
because I thought about that

699
00:43:30,900 --> 00:43:34,200
when she said it, when she was
talking about what they can use

700
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:37,900
it as and I was like, okay, so
they're very specific, she can

701
00:43:37,900 --> 00:43:40,900
use it for defense of her own
person.

702
00:43:41,100 --> 00:43:44,000
She can use it in defense of her
water or another.

703
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:46,900
I said, I.
So she's just out in the forest

704
00:43:46,900 --> 00:43:50,600
and someone is attacking another
person that it does not fall in

705
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:54,200
one of those three categories.
Does that mean she can't use the

706
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:57,600
one power to save them and I was
thinking about what she did at

707
00:43:57,600 --> 00:43:58,800
the village.
And I was like, well,

708
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:03,800
technically speaking, she was
using it to save herself and

709
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:06,800
land because the trolleys were
also coming after them.

710
00:44:07,100 --> 00:44:10,300
So the fact that she used the
one power and pretty much saved

711
00:44:10,300 --> 00:44:13,900
the whole village.
You can kind of that falls in

712
00:44:13,900 --> 00:44:17,100
that gray area because
technically she's there and land

713
00:44:17,100 --> 00:44:20,400
is there.
But they left out the part about

714
00:44:20,700 --> 00:44:25,900
the first part of that third is
except against Shadow spawn and

715
00:44:25,900 --> 00:44:27,200
dark friends.
Okay?

716
00:44:27,700 --> 00:44:30,500
You can use it against Shadow
spoon and dark friends and

717
00:44:30,500 --> 00:44:33,200
there's no justification behind
me.

718
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:35,300
Okay?
So since they haven't since they

719
00:44:35,300 --> 00:44:40,100
haven't really talked about that
in the show explain specifically

720
00:44:40,100 --> 00:44:42,900
what a when did.
You say a shadow spawn and our

721
00:44:42,900 --> 00:44:46,300
friend because I know the term
dark friend is used later on in

722
00:44:46,300 --> 00:44:49,900
the episodes but they don't
necessarily explain what it is.

723
00:44:49,900 --> 00:44:52,900
It's kind of is one of those
things where the context that

724
00:44:52,900 --> 00:44:56,000
they use it you can kind of
figure out what they mean but

725
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:59,700
just explain what is a shadow
spawn and what is ADD our friend

726
00:44:59,700 --> 00:45:05,800
specific Shadow spawn are the
Tri-Lakes and the marginal who

727
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:11,000
are the the Fades who are in
charge of okay okay?

728
00:45:11,500 --> 00:45:14,700
Without the eyes that I lose
their merge rules.

729
00:45:14,900 --> 00:45:18,600
So they're also Shadow smells of
anything that the dark one has

730
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:24,100
created.
Okay, doctrines are people who

731
00:45:24,100 --> 00:45:32,500
are humans, who are in League
with the dark one, who are doing

732
00:45:32,500 --> 00:45:35,500
the dark one's bidding, okay?
Are called Dark friends.

733
00:45:35,700 --> 00:45:40,100
Okay.
Okay there and that's where it's

734
00:45:40,100 --> 00:45:41,300
a black.
Understand why they can't.

735
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:43,300
Kind of left that out when she
explained it.

736
00:45:43,300 --> 00:45:47,900
Because it's kind of a lot to
handle for, for her for

737
00:45:47,900 --> 00:45:49,400
equality.
That would be kind of like, just

738
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:51,400
it.
Yeah, I can use it as long as I

739
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:54,800
use it against, you know,
defending myself, my wardrobe,

740
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:56,900
that stop.
This shouldn't have to explain

741
00:45:56,900 --> 00:45:59,500
with dark.
Friends are in with trial,

742
00:45:59,500 --> 00:46:04,300
exciting, with Kettle small not.
Well okay, here's the thing.

743
00:46:04,300 --> 00:46:08,900
Okay, so I know what I know the
dark friends are and all that,

744
00:46:08,900 --> 00:46:15,000
but our and I haven't seen a
past episode for hat is, is

745
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:18,000
there any connection to the way
that they portray them on the

746
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:20,500
show versus how they are in the
book?

747
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:22,300
Because there's something,
there's another part of that

748
00:46:22,300 --> 00:46:24,600
dark frame thing that was
curious about or are they in

749
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:27,800
control of their service?
Or are they not?

750
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:31,100
Or is it can't be both?
Well, I don't understand the

751
00:46:31,100 --> 00:46:33,300
question.
Meaning in the book, it's

752
00:46:33,300 --> 00:46:36,500
alluded to that, they may have
started out as willing

753
00:46:36,500 --> 00:46:39,000
participants being a dark
friend, but somewhere along the

754
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:43,700
line, they get taken over.
By the, the Dark Lord's, for

755
00:46:43,700 --> 00:46:46,100
lack of better word and they no
longer are in control of their

756
00:46:46,100 --> 00:46:48,100
actions.
They literally have to do what

757
00:46:48,100 --> 00:46:52,200
he tells them to do because they
are no longer in possession, of

758
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:59,000
their willingness went once.
Once you bargain with the dark

759
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:04,100
one, and he gives you access to
the true Source, then you

760
00:47:04,100 --> 00:47:06,900
basically belong to him.
That's what I thought, okay?

761
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:12,100
And if not necessarily, You is
almost like if he takes it away

762
00:47:12,100 --> 00:47:15,400
from you, it's it hurts.
He can hurt you, right?

763
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:18,100
Because you're not, you can't
all of a sudden, change your

764
00:47:18,100 --> 00:47:19,300
mind.
Like, you know, I don't wanna do

765
00:47:19,300 --> 00:47:21,300
this anymore.
He's like, no, no, no, you

766
00:47:21,300 --> 00:47:22,900
belong to me.
If you're gonna do it, ask you

767
00:47:22,900 --> 00:47:24,400
to do.
So, once you join the evil

768
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:26,000
League of evil, you're in for
good.

769
00:47:26,300 --> 00:47:33,500
Once you join your and for good
in their coaches, who have

770
00:47:33,500 --> 00:47:36,400
joined and they have some decent
intentions.

771
00:47:37,900 --> 00:47:40,600
The there's a there's a lot
involved and I don't want to go

772
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:42,300
into right now because I don't
have anything to do with all the

773
00:47:42,300 --> 00:47:44,300
show.
Okay, okay.

774
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:48,100
Okay, moving on.
So since you mentioned parent

775
00:47:48,100 --> 00:47:50,200
let's talk about him because I
do have questions.

776
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:54,900
So throughout the episode, as
they are on the run from the

777
00:47:54,900 --> 00:47:58,200
Tri-Lakes, you can hear wolves
in the background which, you

778
00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:01,900
know, I didn't think much of it
at first.

779
00:48:02,100 --> 00:48:05,900
And then there a couple of times
during the episode we're pairing

780
00:48:05,900 --> 00:48:07,900
looks like he's in And he sits
down.

781
00:48:07,900 --> 00:48:12,900
He rolls his leg leg sleeve up
and you see that there are, I

782
00:48:12,900 --> 00:48:17,200
guess claw marks in his in his
lower leg.

783
00:48:18,100 --> 00:48:23,200
And then there's one part where
they are, they're kind of taking

784
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:26,200
shelter, he's at the river, he's
getting them.

785
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:29,500
Fresh water.
And he pulls up the the leg

786
00:48:29,500 --> 00:48:33,800
sleeve again because the it
looks like one.

787
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:38,900
It looks like it's not healing.
And then As he's there, he gets

788
00:48:38,900 --> 00:48:42,500
approached by this large group
of wolves and at first, they're

789
00:48:42,500 --> 00:48:46,400
very hostile towards him and
then they kind of calm down and

790
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:50,500
then the leader of the pack
approaches him, licks his wound

791
00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:55,600
and then they all run away.
And I was looking at this like

792
00:48:56,500 --> 00:49:00,700
what just happened?
But I have one question.

793
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:03,600
I don't know if this is, I don't
know if this is like just

794
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:06,700
coincidence or not.
Is there anything see?

795
00:49:06,900 --> 00:49:10,800
Nificant about the fact that his
scar on his leg is shaped, like

796
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:12,100
an F.
Is that?

797
00:49:12,100 --> 00:49:14,400
Or is that just something that's
just there.

798
00:49:14,700 --> 00:49:17,100
This is something that's good.
Okay, Mike.

799
00:49:17,100 --> 00:49:19,700
What's your question?
I don't have a theory.

800
00:49:20,700 --> 00:49:22,400
No, I was going to say, you have
a theory, don't you?

801
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:25,900
Okay.
It was quite I mean it's kind of

802
00:49:25,900 --> 00:49:29,200
obvious and I know I'm probably
wrong, but I've been banking on

803
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:32,300
this since I watched it and
parents like my favorite even,

804
00:49:32,300 --> 00:49:35,100
even though I think parent for
some reason, became a favorite

805
00:49:35,100 --> 00:49:40,800
character in all this because
he's a werewolf, it's a f, the

806
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:47,100
F, the F stands for feral these
feral I mean, it's nothing for

807
00:49:47,100 --> 00:49:51,100
Fenris wolf.
First question, how far have you

808
00:49:51,100 --> 00:49:52,900
watched into this?
Kind of watch that.

809
00:49:52,900 --> 00:49:55,300
Watch that far.
So I'm but I think, I think

810
00:49:55,300 --> 00:50:00,200
there's something to him to it
seems like he there's something

811
00:50:00,300 --> 00:50:05,000
if it's not if he's not a wolf
man or he's not becoming like

812
00:50:05,300 --> 00:50:09,800
something wolf-like, I think
there's something I haven't

813
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:12,400
watched them all because I'm a
glutton for punishment.

814
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:15,800
I like being wrong and have you
guys say Oh that's oh.

815
00:50:15,900 --> 00:50:16,800
Cool.
My kid.

816
00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:19,300
That's a really good theory.
Then I get blown out of the

817
00:50:19,300 --> 00:50:22,000
water and y'all like, well, I
mean, I know you don't want to

818
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:27,100
tell you, but I digress.
There was, there was a part when

819
00:50:27,100 --> 00:50:31,600
they were when they were they
were making camp where he we're

820
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:35,400
pairing, was at the fire and the
fire was burning, and it went

821
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:37,800
one way.
Then It reversed and went the

822
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:39,600
other way.
I don't know if anyone noticed

823
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:46,300
that I didn't, it was kind of
weird, I'm wondering if it Of

824
00:50:46,300 --> 00:50:49,200
course, me being being the
conspiracy theorist of the

825
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:51,500
group.
I was like, does he have control

826
00:50:51,500 --> 00:50:56,100
over that like you or is that
just like, a weird editing move,

827
00:50:56,500 --> 00:50:58,100
but it's like, he was sitting
there.

828
00:50:58,100 --> 00:51:00,900
He was like, inhaling deeply and
exhaling deeply.

829
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:03,900
They looked at his wound.
I'm like, did he do it?

830
00:51:04,100 --> 00:51:06,900
Does he have like control over
that?

831
00:51:06,900 --> 00:51:10,000
Like did he rewind?
Like, it was kind of weird, but

832
00:51:10,300 --> 00:51:14,900
I just think that because that
would what the wolf did to his

833
00:51:14,900 --> 00:51:18,800
wound when he was at the River
is kind of indicative of what

834
00:51:18,900 --> 00:51:22,000
other wolves do when when a wolf
is hurt.

835
00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:25,800
Then the end the other another
wolf sees that sees the wound.

836
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:29,200
They lick the wound in order to
help it heal and that's kind of,

837
00:51:29,207 --> 00:51:31,400
that's kind of a dog / wolf
thing.

838
00:51:31,700 --> 00:51:34,200
So and this is how they look out
for each other.

839
00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:36,800
Like, you know, like they don't
want to get infected so they

840
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:39,900
clean it for them, especially if
they have a long way to go.

841
00:51:40,300 --> 00:51:43,300
So that's why I think he's with
his Kindred.

842
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:46,500
So that's my theory.
Okay.

843
00:51:46,700 --> 00:51:51,200
Now as far as the fire thing, I
did not notice that I will go

844
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:52,600
back and look and see if that
happened.

845
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:55,900
But if something like that
happened, you know where the

846
00:51:55,900 --> 00:51:58,900
fire was going one way or the
other technically speaking.

847
00:51:58,900 --> 00:52:04,000
If he if he can channel, the one
power is that something that he

848
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:07,300
would be able to do Anthony like
control that element?

849
00:52:07,300 --> 00:52:11,800
Like I'm not I'm still not sure
how the one power works

850
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:15,300
completely but do they have
control of the elements?

851
00:52:15,300 --> 00:52:19,600
What I I do know that Moraine
said something to egwene when

852
00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:23,700
she was kind of teaching her
about the possibility of

853
00:52:23,700 --> 00:52:26,600
becoming a nice Addai.
And she said something about

854
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:30,300
what happened, you know, she
asked her, what happens when you

855
00:52:30,700 --> 00:52:34,700
hear the wind and then she says
it's not you listening to the

856
00:52:34,700 --> 00:52:38,500
wind is the wind that listens to
you is that something that could

857
00:52:38,500 --> 00:52:43,300
happen with fire as well if
parent has that power there.

858
00:52:43,500 --> 00:52:45,400
Bender's, of course.
Okay.

859
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:49,800
Earth fire, wind water and
stupid.

860
00:52:50,300 --> 00:52:52,600
Okay.
Just like in either of the

861
00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:55,900
scurvy which is just like in any
fantasy thing with his magic.

862
00:52:56,100 --> 00:52:59,900
Okay?
And and just like in discover

863
00:52:59,900 --> 00:53:04,100
which has you have to take you
know fire is how you weave it

864
00:53:04,100 --> 00:53:08,200
together, which brief spells
men.

865
00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:12,200
If I remember are stronger in
Fire and Earth and women are

866
00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:17,700
strong and water, okay?
But all the leaves, the kind of

867
00:53:17,707 --> 00:53:19,100
leaves.
All the leaves have been

868
00:53:19,100 --> 00:53:21,900
learned.
Are some combination of those

869
00:53:21,900 --> 00:53:26,000
elements put together, okay?
Some people are strong in, those

870
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:30,000
elements than others.
Healers are really strong in

871
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:34,900
spirit because that is what?
Promotes the healing?

872
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:37,100
Uh-huh.
That makes sense.

873
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:42,300
Okay, so to answer your
question, yes, if he were able

874
00:53:42,300 --> 00:53:44,300
to channel, that would be
something that he would be able

875
00:53:44,300 --> 00:53:45,700
to control, okay?
Okay.

876
00:53:45,707 --> 00:53:50,700
Now just saying let's let's put
this out there.

877
00:53:50,700 --> 00:53:56,100
I'm not saying Mike theory is
right or wrong because honestly,

878
00:53:56,100 --> 00:53:58,200
I don't know.
I will say this, I've watched

879
00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:03,600
through the end of the first
season and anything that I've

880
00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:07,000
seen does not, I don't think, I
don't know.

881
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:09,800
How werewolves will be depicted
in this, in this particular

882
00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:15,200
story.
So I'm not sure how well your

883
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:16,400
theory.
Works Mike.

884
00:54:16,500 --> 00:54:21,300
But let's just say for the sake
of argument pairing is a

885
00:54:21,300 --> 00:54:25,200
werewolf or something to that
effect, would he be able to be

886
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:28,900
that?
And a Channeler, is that

887
00:54:28,900 --> 00:54:33,100
something that that exists in
this series, like people who are

888
00:54:33,100 --> 00:54:41,100
shapeshifter shapeshifters and
can channel is that a thing, I'm

889
00:54:41,100 --> 00:54:45,800
going to get ya without being
spoilery.

890
00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:55,300
Can you answer that question?
I think theoretically, yes,

891
00:54:55,700 --> 00:54:59,300
okay.
Because I mean is fantasy.

892
00:54:59,300 --> 00:55:06,700
I mean the problem is that for
3,000 years, male Challengers

893
00:55:06,700 --> 00:55:14,100
have been executed.
So I don't know of any female

894
00:55:14,700 --> 00:55:16,800
that was a shape-shifter or a
chaplain.

895
00:55:17,100 --> 00:55:18,400
Okay?
That makes sense.

896
00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:20,100
I mean, and the Chandler.
Okay?

897
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:22,800
And if there any mail that could
do we never would have known

898
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:24,900
because they were killed.
Right?

899
00:55:24,900 --> 00:55:28,200
Okay.
Also, I wanted to mention this

900
00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:34,600
too.
Any female or any woman that or

901
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:37,600
female or girl, bad, but ring
would have come across, it could

902
00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:41,100
have channeled, she would have,
had them taken to the tower,

903
00:55:42,300 --> 00:55:45,500
okay?
All chant any woman who could

904
00:55:45,500 --> 00:55:48,600
Channel, no matter where AZ are
sent to the tower.

905
00:55:48,900 --> 00:55:54,800
Okay, other than the story and I
need, you told when I don't know

906
00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:57,800
what was going on, it was Howard
being, but they sent the girl

907
00:55:57,800 --> 00:56:02,400
back the woman that she say.
Her Mentor, because if she was

908
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:05,900
raggedy and dirty or whatever,
and they sent her back because,

909
00:56:06,500 --> 00:56:11,300
because sometimes, depending on
who's running the tower, it's

910
00:56:11,300 --> 00:56:14,400
sort of like, it's not like the
white clothes because like it's

911
00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:18,700
a noble thing.
T, you know, to be able to

912
00:56:18,700 --> 00:56:21,100
channel, you have to be sort of
an important person.

913
00:56:21,300 --> 00:56:24,600
So they turn their nose up at
peasants or that sort of thing.

914
00:56:25,100 --> 00:56:30,500
Which is terrible because what
happens to them is Is very like

915
00:56:30,500 --> 00:56:34,200
very much like in Harry Potter
when you have this power and no

916
00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:38,500
one teaches you how to use it.
You end up destroying yourself.

917
00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:42,000
Uh-huh.
Usually, after the first time

918
00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:46,700
someone channels, Bill started
getting headaches, they can draw

919
00:56:46,700 --> 00:56:50,100
too much of it into themselves
and and burn themselves out.

920
00:56:50,100 --> 00:56:50,900
Okay.
Yes.

921
00:56:51,300 --> 00:56:57,100
So a lot of Wilders in the bag
is very rare that they continue

922
00:56:57,100 --> 00:56:59,800
on and one of the things that we
see in the trailer, Taylor for

923
00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:01,600
the show.
You see the serum in the

924
00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:05,200
beginning, they have a ceremony
when I need you've pushed egwene

925
00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:09,700
into the water and that was
basically a representation of

926
00:57:09,700 --> 00:57:13,600
teaching her how to control the
flow, like how the control, you

927
00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:18,500
know, this ride with the water,
the lid, the more you fight it,

928
00:57:18,500 --> 00:57:21,200
the harder it is.
So this is let it take over you

929
00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:24,400
and letting you know, take you
down the stream.

930
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:28,200
That's something that their
culture.

931
00:57:28,900 --> 00:57:32,700
Uses to teach women how to
control that part of themselves.

932
00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:36,300
Okay, they don't die.
Okay.

933
00:57:37,100 --> 00:57:40,700
Men boys, who can Channel they
steal them or being the dying

934
00:57:40,700 --> 00:57:43,800
anyway because Iggle piggle mad.
And but they got to get to him

935
00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:46,900
before they get really powerful
real bad things happen.

936
00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:48,800
Okay.
Okay.

937
00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:51,900
So the bed.
Does that answer your question?

938
00:57:52,300 --> 00:57:55,000
I don't know.
Yeah, about shape-shifting and

939
00:57:55,000 --> 00:57:58,200
channeling.
Hmm, that's just something we'll

940
00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:00,700
just Have to see because have to
use, have to see.

941
00:58:00,700 --> 00:58:02,800
I'm just happy.
So you're saying there's a

942
00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:09,200
chance you have to but always my
but mind you indifferent.

943
00:58:09,200 --> 00:58:12,300
We've had different authors and
different series interpret

944
00:58:12,300 --> 00:58:16,600
werewolves in different ways
like even the world wolves and

945
00:58:16,700 --> 00:58:20,700
in like we discovered in
Twilight that they're not really

946
00:58:20,700 --> 00:58:22,500
world's they're shapeshifters.
Mm-hmm.

947
00:58:24,100 --> 00:58:28,200
Which which, you know, is, was
one of the hardest things to get

948
00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:29,700
people to wrap their head
around.

949
00:58:29,700 --> 00:58:32,600
Wait, they're not really
werewolves, no, they're

950
00:58:32,600 --> 00:58:33,900
shapeshifters.
Hmm.

951
00:58:34,100 --> 00:58:36,400
The werewolves are completely
different in the vampires of

952
00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:39,500
scared of Worlds, because you're
more powerful than God.

953
00:58:40,100 --> 00:58:42,000
That's why they're almost all
gone, right?

954
00:58:42,300 --> 00:58:43,700
Right.
Yeah.

955
00:58:44,500 --> 00:58:46,500
And where was Harry Potter at
different?

956
00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:49,900
Additional werewolf.
Where is it?

957
00:58:49,900 --> 00:58:52,100
A discovery?
Which is there are no werewolves

958
00:58:52,100 --> 00:58:57,900
at all.
And that we know of that, we

959
00:58:57,900 --> 00:59:03,500
know of well I read books but my
thing is is that I was looking

960
00:59:03,500 --> 00:59:08,000
out of somewhere and I guess the
problem is is that not her

961
00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:10,500
particularly never hardness but
a lot of people with their

962
00:59:10,500 --> 00:59:13,600
writing fantasy they want to
stay away from Worlds because

963
00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:15,800
they think they've been or
shapeshifter because they didn't

964
00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:19,800
use so much and when you think
of the Holy Trinity of horror

965
00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:22,100
you think vampire which is
werewolves.

966
00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:25,700
So they're basically My light
did a lot of damage.

967
00:59:25,700 --> 00:59:30,100
Okay, let's just it did a lot of
damage on people using

968
00:59:30,100 --> 00:59:33,400
werewolves as main characters
for a long time because of the

969
00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:34,900
bad taste of left, everyone's
mouth.

970
00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:37,800
So, a lot of writers of modern
fantasy.

971
00:59:38,100 --> 00:59:43,000
Not just as with various other
fantasies, they are leery to go

972
00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:45,000
there.
And I don't think the trend is

973
00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:49,300
going to change for another
maybe 10 years because it was

974
00:59:49,300 --> 00:59:53,000
just but this, whether he's a
werewolf or not or shape-shifter

975
00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:57,300
or not, I think that the whole
thing is telling that he might

976
00:59:57,300 --> 01:00:01,600
at the very least have some sort
of like how some people have

977
01:00:01,600 --> 01:00:04,800
like a sanity for animals, they
may not be quote unquote, an

978
01:00:04,800 --> 01:00:09,300
animal themselves but they are
sensitive, I think watching this

979
01:00:09,300 --> 01:00:13,100
I think he's sensitive.
Okay.

980
01:00:13,400 --> 01:00:17,600
Animals and that he has an
affinity for them and it might

981
01:00:17,600 --> 01:00:20,900
be something different than him
being a werewolf or

982
01:00:20,900 --> 01:00:24,600
shapeshifter.
Okay, that makes sense too.

983
01:00:24,600 --> 01:00:27,300
Or it could just be this
author's interpretation of where

984
01:00:27,300 --> 01:00:29,000
the world wolf would be, that's
true.

985
01:00:30,500 --> 01:00:32,100
Yeah.
Okay.

986
01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:36,100
All right, let's let's move on
because I got to talk about

987
01:00:36,100 --> 01:00:40,000
this, the scene where R and
pulls that damn bat out of his

988
01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:45,500
throat.
That was so disgusting ill.

989
01:00:45,900 --> 01:00:48,300
Can we give a shout-out to the
special effects people?

990
01:00:48,600 --> 01:00:51,200
Yeah, that's because that was
legit.

991
01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:55,900
That was Was it was like I'm
looking at it like oh he just

992
01:00:55,900 --> 01:01:01,100
really pulled it back its mouth
but he ends up doing that

993
01:01:01,100 --> 01:01:06,000
because you know, they've all
taken Refuge he's asleep.

994
01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:09,700
He's gone you know outside of
the cave to have some time to

995
01:01:09,700 --> 01:01:14,800
himself some you know, for
whatever reason and he wakes up,

996
01:01:15,100 --> 01:01:18,800
he has this little cough and
then he starts choking, he pulls

997
01:01:18,800 --> 01:01:21,900
this bat out of his mouth and
then he looks up.

998
01:01:22,200 --> 01:01:25,900
And the dark one is standing in
the forest, or at least that,

999
01:01:25,908 --> 01:01:29,100
that's who I thought it was.
Because it was a guy, he didn't

1000
01:01:29,100 --> 01:01:33,200
look like one of the regular
faith and he had glowing as Matt

1001
01:01:33,200 --> 01:01:38,100
said Amber eyes and then he
wakes up and it's a he realizes

1002
01:01:38,100 --> 01:01:42,300
this a dream but then he looks
and there is a bat in front of

1003
01:01:42,300 --> 01:01:45,100
him on the ground.
So it's kind of like one of

1004
01:01:45,100 --> 01:01:48,100
those where did they really
happen or not?

1005
01:01:48,600 --> 01:01:52,200
And then as he's walking towards
everyone else, there are Are

1006
01:01:52,500 --> 01:01:56,700
dead bats on the ground and
apparently, all of them have had

1007
01:01:57,100 --> 01:02:00,600
a dream with the bats and seeing
the dark, man.

1008
01:02:00,600 --> 01:02:04,700
Now, we don't hear what it
claims dream is, we don't hear

1009
01:02:05,100 --> 01:02:07,900
what parents is.
We do know that.

1010
01:02:07,900 --> 01:02:12,900
They both saw the dark man.
Matt says very specifically

1011
01:02:12,900 --> 01:02:16,000
about his dream, he says that
there were, there were dozens of

1012
01:02:16,000 --> 01:02:18,100
bats and they all have their
necks broken.

1013
01:02:18,100 --> 01:02:20,800
Kind of like someone was
standing there and breaking

1014
01:02:20,800 --> 01:02:26,900
their necks midair.
So, I'm just kind of like, I

1015
01:02:26,900 --> 01:02:31,700
feel like in a way it's kind of
sort of telling that Rand and

1016
01:02:31,700 --> 01:02:36,900
Matt's dreams were the only two
that were shared out of the, for

1017
01:02:37,600 --> 01:02:41,000
maybe that's just me looking to
too much into things, but I'm

1018
01:02:41,000 --> 01:02:45,000
like, that doesn't bode well, at
least.

1019
01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:47,700
It's as far as I can see.
You know what I'm saying?

1020
01:02:47,700 --> 01:02:50,800
It's like so yeah, I told us
there's and y'all didn't tell us

1021
01:02:50,800 --> 01:02:55,800
the other two but I mean I mean
we've seen, we saw the other two

1022
01:02:55,800 --> 01:02:58,300
being focused on in different
ways in this episode.

1023
01:02:58,300 --> 01:03:02,500
You know, gwaine possibly being.
I said I or being able to be

1024
01:03:02,500 --> 01:03:07,600
Aisa dive in pairing with his
may or may not be animal

1025
01:03:07,600 --> 01:03:10,700
sensitive /, werewolf /,
whatever.

1026
01:03:11,200 --> 01:03:15,300
But the fact that they are
looking for the person who can

1027
01:03:15,400 --> 01:03:19,100
who is the dragon reborn, and
they're saying that the dragon

1028
01:03:19,100 --> 01:03:21,900
reborn will either fix the world
orca.

1029
01:03:22,000 --> 01:03:25,200
I possibly break it again.
And then we see these two

1030
01:03:25,200 --> 01:03:27,800
visions, or we hear about these
two visions from these two

1031
01:03:27,800 --> 01:03:33,700
people, I'm just kind of like
Yeah, those two I think are the

1032
01:03:33,700 --> 01:03:37,400
possibilities as far as being
the dragon reborn and one of

1033
01:03:37,400 --> 01:03:40,300
them is going to fix things and
one of them is going to break

1034
01:03:40,300 --> 01:03:47,500
them.
And at this point, But was that

1035
01:03:47,500 --> 01:03:51,100
the only person who thought that
as far as the dreams go, like,

1036
01:03:51,100 --> 01:03:55,400
why are you focusing on dreams?
Just those two wind apparent

1037
01:03:55,400 --> 01:03:58,900
dream, about with the egwene
dream about the only got any

1038
01:03:58,900 --> 01:04:02,100
differently.
I feel like ran and Matt are the

1039
01:04:02,100 --> 01:04:06,500
two that will that overshare and
pairing.

1040
01:04:06,500 --> 01:04:09,700
Then really tell people about
what's going on inside his head.

1041
01:04:10,100 --> 01:04:11,500
I mean, he'll he hadn't even
told them.

1042
01:04:11,700 --> 01:04:14,500
He hadn't told anyone that he
killed his wife, I see Emily.

1043
01:04:14,700 --> 01:04:18,200
So I looked at, Be that way
that, that Matt is gonna blab

1044
01:04:18,200 --> 01:04:21,700
until everything you saw in his
dream and Randy's to because,

1045
01:04:21,700 --> 01:04:24,500
you know, Randy has ran.
Okay, well, he's not gonna say

1046
01:04:24,500 --> 01:04:27,400
anything because she's not gonna
want to say it out loud and

1047
01:04:27,400 --> 01:04:32,400
parent, then share it all.
So But I understand why

1048
01:04:32,400 --> 01:04:36,800
understand why you say that.
I'm just this because if you

1049
01:04:36,800 --> 01:04:40,400
think about it, if you look at
it.

1050
01:04:40,400 --> 01:04:43,900
Yeah.
Parent seems to be special ran

1051
01:04:43,900 --> 01:04:46,500
seems to be may be different in
some way.

1052
01:04:46,900 --> 01:04:49,700
Big Wayne we know is different.
What was special about?

1053
01:04:49,700 --> 01:04:53,300
Matt, he's a degenerate Gambler.
He can't keep his hands to

1054
01:04:53,300 --> 01:04:55,600
himself.
He doesn't follow instructions.

1055
01:04:58,200 --> 01:05:00,600
But see those are all like the
bad qualities.

1056
01:05:00,600 --> 01:05:05,200
I Like Matt.
Hey, yeah, he has some very good

1057
01:05:05,200 --> 01:05:08,400
qualities about himself, you
know, he's very caring, he's

1058
01:05:08,400 --> 01:05:11,300
very compassionate, especially
when it comes to like his

1059
01:05:11,300 --> 01:05:14,600
sister's.
He's very protective, he's very

1060
01:05:14,600 --> 01:05:18,600
selfless when it comes to them
and I feel like, maybe with this

1061
01:05:18,600 --> 01:05:20,900
group to, with his friends, he
could be as well.

1062
01:05:20,900 --> 01:05:23,900
But again, we're only in the
second second episode.

1063
01:05:23,900 --> 01:05:29,400
So I'm not quite sure where Matt
fits into all of this, but it's

1064
01:05:29,400 --> 01:05:33,800
like, we see, We know that
there's a bigger story, of

1065
01:05:33,800 --> 01:05:36,800
course, there's going to be a
bigger story with ran and egwene

1066
01:05:36,800 --> 01:05:40,000
whether they're together or not,
because those two, I feel like

1067
01:05:40,000 --> 01:05:45,600
those are the main two people of
the group parents seems like his

1068
01:05:46,400 --> 01:05:51,500
his story or whatever Journey.
He's going to go on within this

1069
01:05:51,900 --> 01:05:56,600
within the story is more, so
going to be by himself,

1070
01:05:57,600 --> 01:06:00,200
especially in light of the fact
that like you say, he doesn't

1071
01:06:00,200 --> 01:06:02,800
share much.
Like we don't really know much

1072
01:06:02,800 --> 01:06:05,200
about him except for the little
bit.

1073
01:06:05,200 --> 01:06:09,000
We saw of him in the first
episode, but again, we know that

1074
01:06:09,000 --> 01:06:12,000
all four of these people share a
close Bond.

1075
01:06:12,400 --> 01:06:17,600
They appear to be best friends
and will, you know, have each

1076
01:06:17,600 --> 01:06:21,100
other's backs but with something
this big looming over their

1077
01:06:21,100 --> 01:06:24,200
heads.
Like, potentially one of you,

1078
01:06:25,500 --> 01:06:29,600
Has the ability and will
probably either fix the world or

1079
01:06:29,600 --> 01:06:33,400
destroy the world.
These are huge burden to be

1080
01:06:33,400 --> 01:06:37,100
placing on one person.
And then, what does that mean

1081
01:06:37,100 --> 01:06:40,700
for the other three?
Who don't fulfill that prophecy?

1082
01:06:40,900 --> 01:06:49,300
You know, the old blood runs,
deep, amen, Nephron I mean, just

1083
01:06:49,300 --> 01:06:54,400
going back to Moraine.
The song they were seeing about

1084
01:06:55,400 --> 01:06:58,200
the nephron.
That's where the two rivers is,

1085
01:06:59,100 --> 01:07:04,500
that was one of the ten kingdoms
that stood against the dark one.

1086
01:07:04,900 --> 01:07:08,200
When the trial like war is when
the Tri-Lakes invaded, the

1087
01:07:08,200 --> 01:07:12,500
nephron was a thorn in the side
of the dark one, they were very

1088
01:07:12,500 --> 01:07:17,200
powerful Kingdom them in.
Arid hold, which is Shadow

1089
01:07:17,200 --> 01:07:19,100
Lugar.
Through which we get to later.

1090
01:07:19,200 --> 01:07:21,600
Hmm.
And King Amon.

1091
01:07:23,000 --> 01:07:25,800
Held his ground against the
trial, car me.

1092
01:07:25,800 --> 01:07:30,900
He and his army, he'll the
ground and be asked for help and

1093
01:07:30,900 --> 01:07:35,100
they were waiting for help and
help did not come and they were

1094
01:07:35,100 --> 01:07:38,700
really only supposed to be able
to hold for a day.

1095
01:07:39,000 --> 01:07:43,700
But every day, they held and the
hills were about, nine days

1096
01:07:44,200 --> 01:07:48,000
before he realized that big help
was not coming, mmm-hmm, and

1097
01:07:48,000 --> 01:07:53,100
then when he sent Riders to tell
them to evacuate the city, Back

1098
01:07:53,100 --> 01:07:58,500
with a Capital C into the
mountains, most of the people,

1099
01:07:58,500 --> 01:08:04,200
the adults, women and men.
They came to the field to fight.

1100
01:08:04,200 --> 01:08:08,400
Hmm, while the children and
elderly went into the mountains,

1101
01:08:08,600 --> 01:08:10,500
right?
Absolutely Hill until they were

1102
01:08:10,500 --> 01:08:14,500
all dead, which was another four
days, which was another four

1103
01:08:14,500 --> 01:08:18,200
days.
Then his wife, the queen ildren,

1104
01:08:18,800 --> 01:08:23,100
she was, I said, I he married a
nice to die because of Course,

1105
01:08:23,100 --> 01:08:26,200
you know, most of the queens of
the time where I stood, I

1106
01:08:26,800 --> 01:08:29,800
because they married them off
and she happened to be the most

1107
01:08:29,800 --> 01:08:34,600
powerful Chandler at that time.
Side note.

1108
01:08:34,600 --> 01:08:38,000
The reason why he'll didn't come
is the current our Merlin seat

1109
01:08:38,500 --> 01:08:43,600
was jealous of her from when
they were children and she did

1110
01:08:43,600 --> 01:08:48,300
everything she could to not let
help keep their correct me if

1111
01:08:48,300 --> 01:08:51,000
I'm wrong and I'm pulling a
little bit from the books.

1112
01:08:51,000 --> 01:08:53,300
I'm not going to go into
spoilers but isn't a novel is

1113
01:08:53,300 --> 01:08:56,200
seat.
Usually batshit crazy.

1114
01:08:57,000 --> 01:09:01,300
No stubble, or is it just a few?
There's a few people are

1115
01:09:01,300 --> 01:09:04,000
jealous.
They can be because there's

1116
01:09:04,000 --> 01:09:07,700
still people right?
And her jealousy of L drain goes

1117
01:09:07,700 --> 01:09:10,899
back to when they were children
and jealous of how powerful

1118
01:09:10,899 --> 01:09:15,899
he'll drink was.
And they could be a debate made

1119
01:09:15,899 --> 01:09:17,500
that maybe she was a dark
friend.

1120
01:09:20,300 --> 01:09:25,300
I don't think so.
But either way, Philip did not

1121
01:09:25,300 --> 01:09:28,300
come, it'll drain filled him die
because she had bounded him as a

1122
01:09:28,308 --> 01:09:30,899
Warder.
So when he died, she felt it.

1123
01:09:31,200 --> 01:09:34,100
Oh okay, okay.
All right, okay, I wondered

1124
01:09:34,100 --> 01:09:35,600
about that.
Yeah.

1125
01:09:35,600 --> 01:09:37,500
See, but yeah, that's how she
didn't say that.

1126
01:09:37,500 --> 01:09:40,600
She just said that.
Oh, the queen ldren, felt her

1127
01:09:40,600 --> 01:09:42,800
husband died, but she had bonded
him.

1128
01:09:42,899 --> 01:09:46,500
Him as a Warder, ah, which opens
up a whole different can of

1129
01:09:46,508 --> 01:09:49,500
worms that we might want to get
want to get into right now, but

1130
01:10:00,100 --> 01:10:05,100
and basically destroyed the
entire Army killing herself in

1131
01:10:05,100 --> 01:10:07,600
the process.
And that turned the tide of the

1132
01:10:07,600 --> 01:10:09,700
war because most of the child
economy was gone.

1133
01:10:10,000 --> 01:10:11,400
Right?
Right.

1134
01:10:11,400 --> 01:10:16,500
And then, of course, we find out
later On that aftershave the

1135
01:10:16,500 --> 01:10:18,800
city that was Shadow.
Love that Oleg.

1136
01:10:18,800 --> 01:10:24,600
Orth the Golf R golf ligase
after they did not send help

1137
01:10:24,600 --> 01:10:28,100
when the, you know, the the
remaining survivors came to the

1138
01:10:28,100 --> 01:10:32,700
city for shelter, the whole city
was pretty much, I won't even

1139
01:10:32,700 --> 01:10:36,700
say abandon this.
Like every everyone dessert is

1140
01:10:36,700 --> 01:10:40,100
kind of like and and no one
knows what happened to them.

1141
01:10:40,700 --> 01:10:42,800
What was it?
That last said it is said that.

1142
01:10:42,900 --> 01:10:51,200
Evil itself consumed the city
and I was like that's Karma

1143
01:10:51,200 --> 01:10:57,200
incarnate If Ever I saw it like
oh y'all promised these people

1144
01:10:57,200 --> 01:11:03,100
Aid and then you didn't send it,
you know, I guess being I don't

1145
01:11:03,100 --> 01:11:07,400
know, maybe being selfish, you
know, or like you said, the

1146
01:11:07,400 --> 01:11:10,200
jealousy part like oh yeah, I'm
jealous of her.

1147
01:11:10,200 --> 01:11:12,600
She has all this power.
She she can do it herself or

1148
01:11:12,900 --> 01:11:14,900
Ever.
But whatever happened.

1149
01:11:15,700 --> 01:11:20,100
Karma the universe whatever was
like oh this is how you want to

1150
01:11:20,100 --> 01:11:25,200
add bed, banished banished
begone begone.

1151
01:11:25,500 --> 01:11:30,000
Everybody just disappears and I
tell you when they enter the

1152
01:11:30,000 --> 01:11:34,900
city for shelter from the
chocolates The quietness of the

1153
01:11:34,900 --> 01:11:39,400
City versus them talking like
when they were saying when

1154
01:11:39,500 --> 01:11:43,400
pairing was saying listen,
there's no birds no bugs, no,

1155
01:11:43,400 --> 01:11:48,600
like the silence in that city
that was Eerie, it felt

1156
01:11:48,600 --> 01:11:52,700
different even just watching
that like if I don't know, it's

1157
01:11:52,700 --> 01:11:56,200
very unsettling.
Just how quiet it was.

1158
01:11:56,600 --> 01:12:01,700
Yeah scary have a question.
Yes.

1159
01:12:02,000 --> 01:12:06,600
Okay so when they were when they
end up getting chased in they

1160
01:12:06,600 --> 01:12:11,000
were approaching the city.
When they got like close to say

1161
01:12:11,000 --> 01:12:13,400
their horses, wouldn't go any
further and then when they look

1162
01:12:13,400 --> 01:12:17,000
back to your trollops wouldn't
even come close to where they

1163
01:12:17,000 --> 01:12:18,400
were.
They won't even come closer

1164
01:12:18,400 --> 01:12:21,800
then.
Why not just Camp outside the

1165
01:12:21,800 --> 01:12:25,200
city?
Because they wouldn't approach

1166
01:12:25,200 --> 01:12:28,400
them.
They weren't getting any closer

1167
01:12:28,400 --> 01:12:30,300
than that.
There was no way.

1168
01:12:30,300 --> 01:12:33,800
I mean, I just think, I feel
like instead of going into city

1169
01:12:33,800 --> 01:12:37,600
which is as soon as they said
something about a demon city I

1170
01:12:37,608 --> 01:12:40,800
was like oh God here we go.
These someone's getting ready to

1171
01:12:40,800 --> 01:12:44,600
fuck up.
I was like y'all keep it was not

1172
01:12:44,600 --> 01:12:48,000
someone you know who is going to
be the one fucking kill you.

1173
01:12:50,400 --> 01:12:54,400
100%, who's gonna be mad?
I knew it, but it's like they've

1174
01:12:54,500 --> 01:12:57,500
obviously the trolleys were
probably looking like, okay,

1175
01:12:57,700 --> 01:12:59,600
this is what you see where they
gonna do.

1176
01:12:59,900 --> 01:13:01,600
Are they going to go in and see
if they're going to stay

1177
01:13:01,600 --> 01:13:03,100
outside?
Because the stay outside will

1178
01:13:03,100 --> 01:13:05,700
get them.
But that's what I thought too.

1179
01:13:05,800 --> 01:13:09,700
It was no reason to approach if
they were just gonna run inside.

1180
01:13:09,700 --> 01:13:19,600
So this was going to be good.
No, I do not think that honestly

1181
01:13:19,600 --> 01:13:21,700
just Think that they weren't
going to go.

1182
01:13:21,700 --> 01:13:25,000
I mean they really sense how bad
that city was and they were

1183
01:13:25,000 --> 01:13:28,400
going to get closer than they
really needed to don't think

1184
01:13:28,400 --> 01:13:29,700
they really want to get that
close.

1185
01:13:29,700 --> 01:13:34,000
Either the settles down, had had
actually station the Battalion

1186
01:13:34,000 --> 01:13:37,000
beer once and was never heard
from again.

1187
01:13:37,000 --> 01:13:40,100
So they knew they know, they
know not to go there.

1188
01:13:40,400 --> 01:13:43,300
Okay, this is something we see
in the show as from the books,

1189
01:13:43,300 --> 01:13:51,100
but yeah.
They should have posted it right

1190
01:13:51,100 --> 01:13:53,500
there in front of the city.
I mean, they were like, nope,

1191
01:13:53,500 --> 01:13:55,100
not gonna do it.
Oh, well, why not?

1192
01:13:55,100 --> 01:13:57,500
But then, something, well, you
see what happens?

1193
01:13:57,500 --> 01:13:59,000
Because we see it in this
episode.

1194
01:13:59,100 --> 01:14:02,400
Kind of what happens.
And the thing is that I'm

1195
01:14:02,400 --> 01:14:04,600
sitting there, like I said, I
made popcorn is I was like, oh,

1196
01:14:04,600 --> 01:14:08,800
this got to go down.
The only problem I had and I'm

1197
01:14:08,800 --> 01:14:11,700
having with this series is
because I've read so much

1198
01:14:11,700 --> 01:14:14,900
fantasy is sort of like a.
Like I said, I think the first

1199
01:14:14,900 --> 01:14:18,800
episode you have your list.
Oh, they are the force kick you,

1200
01:14:18,800 --> 01:14:22,100
they enter this.
Tick you just checking it off as

1201
01:14:22,100 --> 01:14:24,600
you watch the episodes, right?
Yeah.

1202
01:14:24,600 --> 01:14:28,500
That's a character like the Mi
Amore.

1203
01:14:28,500 --> 01:14:33,400
Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.
Yeah, yeah, I think to answer

1204
01:14:33,400 --> 01:14:37,300
your question, Mike.
I feel like, yeah, they probably

1205
01:14:37,300 --> 01:14:41,400
could have camped outside the
city, but just because the trial

1206
01:14:41,400 --> 01:14:44,400
looks won't cross past a certain
point.

1207
01:14:44,500 --> 01:14:48,800
Does it mean that an arrow or
spear or acts?

1208
01:14:48,800 --> 01:14:52,900
Throne would Pass, you know,
they could have sat there and,

1209
01:14:53,300 --> 01:14:56,600
you know, thrown stuff or
whatever.

1210
01:14:58,100 --> 01:15:03,500
So I think it was probably, it
could have many say, it could

1211
01:15:03,500 --> 01:15:10,800
have been safer for them in the
city because if you think about

1212
01:15:10,800 --> 01:15:15,800
the circumstances of how those
people disappeared, I don't

1213
01:15:15,800 --> 01:15:19,400
think any of our people would
have.

1214
01:15:21,000 --> 01:15:25,500
Would have attracted that kind
of energy force, whatever you

1215
01:15:25,500 --> 01:15:31,400
want to call it.
But mad, not only being just

1216
01:15:31,400 --> 01:15:36,700
curious about things but I feel
like there's a little bit of an

1217
01:15:36,700 --> 01:15:40,400
undercurrent with Matt where he
might be jealous of the others.

1218
01:15:40,400 --> 01:15:47,000
I don't know why but he just
seems to me like he just, I

1219
01:15:47,000 --> 01:15:49,600
don't know it, this goes back
again to what I said earlier

1220
01:15:49,600 --> 01:15:54,400
about him and ran, you know,
possibly being one, you know,

1221
01:15:54,400 --> 01:15:57,400
one of the two being the dragon
reborn because of what their

1222
01:15:57,700 --> 01:16:01,500
Anjali is I just feel, like
whatever darkness is, and Matt,

1223
01:16:01,600 --> 01:16:05,400
it attracted that little, I
don't know what we want to call

1224
01:16:05,400 --> 01:16:08,500
it Shadow blob or I don't know
what to call it.

1225
01:16:08,600 --> 01:16:11,900
But whatever, you know, he
started I think he was hearing

1226
01:16:11,900 --> 01:16:14,400
voices, or he was hearing
something, or he was saying

1227
01:16:14,400 --> 01:16:17,300
something.
Almost like something was

1228
01:16:17,300 --> 01:16:21,500
leading him to the knife and
when he got to that blade, I was

1229
01:16:21,500 --> 01:16:23,300
like, Matt don't pick it up.
I know you're about to pick it

1230
01:16:23,300 --> 01:16:24,100
up.
Don't pick it up.

1231
01:16:24,100 --> 01:16:26,200
Don't pick it up.
This just don't pick it up.

1232
01:16:26,700 --> 01:16:30,100
And then what?
Happened when he picked it up.

1233
01:16:31,300 --> 01:16:32,800
And everything started going
haywire.

1234
01:16:32,800 --> 01:16:38,800
It's just like, I actually pause
my TV like who's about to die

1235
01:16:38,800 --> 01:16:41,300
because I really thought
somebody was about to die first

1236
01:16:41,700 --> 01:16:44,900
other than the horses.
Yeah that's the reminded me of

1237
01:16:44,900 --> 01:16:47,300
Aladdin.
When, when a boob grab the big

1238
01:16:47,300 --> 01:16:52,900
gemstone feels like you have
really tried to put it back and

1239
01:16:52,900 --> 01:16:56,300
it just melts away and I was
like, yeah, I was like kind of

1240
01:16:56,300 --> 01:17:03,000
like when when who was it?
Somebody probably Jonathan.

1241
01:17:03,300 --> 01:17:07,000
And the mummy when they were
touching all the, you know, the

1242
01:17:07,000 --> 01:17:09,100
stuff there weren't supposed to
touch stuff.

1243
01:17:09,100 --> 01:17:13,500
Yeah, it was kind of like that
but I just was the reins with

1244
01:17:13,800 --> 01:17:16,700
tipping.
Hit the thing and learned all

1245
01:17:16,700 --> 01:17:17,700
that work.
Still?

1246
01:17:17,700 --> 01:17:21,700
Oh yes, yes he did do that.
Yeah again that's one of those

1247
01:17:21,700 --> 01:17:24,200
like common things like somebody
is posted.

1248
01:17:24,600 --> 01:17:27,300
Somebody is going to touch
something, they're not supposed

1249
01:17:27,300 --> 01:17:29,300
to touch and then all hell
breaks loose.

1250
01:17:29,400 --> 01:17:33,800
It and literally it and it
didn't help in this because

1251
01:17:34,500 --> 01:17:38,800
everybody has to split morenas
practically comatose at this

1252
01:17:38,800 --> 01:17:40,700
point.
So it's not like she's going to

1253
01:17:40,700 --> 01:17:43,500
be any help or she can't even
get herself out of the

1254
01:17:43,500 --> 01:17:46,200
situation.
They have to carry her and all

1255
01:17:46,200 --> 01:17:53,900
this other stuff and it's just
like so you get you get mad and

1256
01:17:53,900 --> 01:17:59,200
Rand separated by themselves and
then you have parent and egwene

1257
01:17:59,200 --> 01:18:01,500
and Then you have land and
Moraine.

1258
01:18:01,700 --> 01:18:05,700
All of them have to get out of
the city which thankfully they

1259
01:18:05,700 --> 01:18:09,900
all make it out but they're all
separated now like it's almost

1260
01:18:09,900 --> 01:18:15,200
like they came out on three
different sides of the city and

1261
01:18:15,200 --> 01:18:17,800
there's no way for them to kind
of like, finding each other at

1262
01:18:17,800 --> 01:18:20,400
this point.
So they're just separated and

1263
01:18:20,400 --> 01:18:22,300
land.
Of course, is trying to check on

1264
01:18:22,300 --> 01:18:26,500
Moran, and make sure she's okay.
And who comes out of the woods.

1265
01:18:27,200 --> 01:18:31,500
98 she's alive and I was like oh
this is gonna be interesting.

1266
01:18:31,900 --> 01:18:37,200
Like my thing is how the hell
did you escape from at Rowlett?

1267
01:18:38,300 --> 01:18:40,800
So I need to know that Eve is
that bitch.

1268
01:18:45,600 --> 01:18:48,200
I mean, just her attitude.
She's like, okay.

1269
01:18:49,700 --> 01:18:51,700
Where are my people?
Where my friends?

1270
01:18:52,000 --> 01:18:53,900
Yes, you take me to them now, or
I'll kill you.

1271
01:18:54,100 --> 01:18:57,800
Right.
And I believe it too, right?

1272
01:18:57,800 --> 01:18:59,900
I mean, just think about it
really happy.

1273
01:19:00,600 --> 01:19:03,900
She got taken off by trolley and
she's alive.

1274
01:19:03,900 --> 01:19:07,200
And it almost looks like she's
under for the most part

1275
01:19:07,200 --> 01:19:09,500
unscathed.
With yeah, she didn't kill some

1276
01:19:09,500 --> 01:19:12,700
folks shouldn't kill some
things, maybe not people

1277
01:19:12,700 --> 01:19:14,400
shouldn't kill.
She didn't kill the trolley car

1278
01:19:14,400 --> 01:19:18,400
to in order to get there.
But I'm like if you think about

1279
01:19:18,400 --> 01:19:21,100
it that means she had to have
been following them the whole

1280
01:19:21,100 --> 01:19:23,200
time.
Because how do you all all of a

1281
01:19:23,200 --> 01:19:27,500
sudden like they have literally
traveled across the country on

1282
01:19:27,500 --> 01:19:30,400
horses?
You know, kind of get away from

1283
01:19:30,400 --> 01:19:33,900
those trolleys like first of
all, how does she get around the

1284
01:19:33,900 --> 01:19:39,900
all army of Charlie's because
they have At the ferry Crossing,

1285
01:19:39,900 --> 01:19:43,300
there was the whole Army there,
so she had to get across the

1286
01:19:43,300 --> 01:19:45,800
river.
Somehow, how did I just have so

1287
01:19:45,800 --> 01:19:48,900
many questions?
So many questions?

1288
01:19:50,100 --> 01:19:53,300
Like, what did you do?
Where are you?

1289
01:19:53,300 --> 01:19:57,400
You can't just be a normal.
What did they call her?

1290
01:19:59,000 --> 01:20:02,600
Yeah, there has to be more to
her at this point.

1291
01:20:02,600 --> 01:20:10,600
Well, well, I I saw it and I was
like, okay this is interesting

1292
01:20:11,100 --> 01:20:13,500
and then I had the same
questions but then again, I was

1293
01:20:13,500 --> 01:20:17,600
also like in not spoiling in the
book.

1294
01:20:17,600 --> 01:20:21,400
First book.
She's just pissed off enough

1295
01:20:21,500 --> 01:20:24,100
that she's like, I'm not letting
him out of their sight, no

1296
01:20:24,100 --> 01:20:26,700
matter what.
I'm going to go find them, I'm

1297
01:20:26,700 --> 01:20:29,100
going to go get them.
And I'm going to bring him back

1298
01:20:29,100 --> 01:20:32,100
to the Village, okay?
That's her whole mindset in the

1299
01:20:32,108 --> 01:20:33,700
first book.
I'm not, that's all I'm saying.

1300
01:20:33,700 --> 01:20:36,800
I'm not going anything else.
So seeing it, translate the

1301
01:20:36,800 --> 01:20:41,500
screen, she would have done,
just about anything to get them

1302
01:20:41,500 --> 01:20:44,300
back, not because she cares
about them because they pissed

1303
01:20:44,300 --> 01:20:46,200
her off because I left in the
first place.

1304
01:20:46,600 --> 01:20:51,900
See she, my theory is that she
takes her job because she's so

1305
01:20:51,900 --> 01:20:54,700
young to be a wisdom.
She's about ten years younger

1306
01:20:54,700 --> 01:20:56,500
than the wisdom should be in a
village.

1307
01:20:56,500 --> 01:20:59,600
She's very sensitive to the fact
that she's got a feeling.

1308
01:20:59,600 --> 01:21:03,500
She has to prove herself over
and over to the people around

1309
01:21:03,500 --> 01:21:05,300
her that she's worthy to do.
Yeah.

1310
01:21:05,700 --> 01:21:08,300
Okay.
So huh, personal sense of

1311
01:21:08,300 --> 01:21:13,100
responsibility is override
anything crazy or crazy ish to

1312
01:21:13,100 --> 01:21:15,600
get things done.
So I was not surprised to see

1313
01:21:15,600 --> 01:21:18,200
her.
I was more along the lines of

1314
01:21:18,200 --> 01:21:21,900
okay, she made it through she
survived and she's going to

1315
01:21:21,900 --> 01:21:24,300
bring them back and she's going
to tell we're ready to kick

1316
01:21:24,300 --> 01:21:27,100
rocks.
And that's all chickens for.

1317
01:21:27,400 --> 01:21:30,300
I don't think she's gonna be
that Alliance well, house

1318
01:21:30,300 --> 01:21:33,600
throughout the whole series of
books tell us is that she is

1319
01:21:33,600 --> 01:21:36,700
responsible for them.
Yeah, via her responsibilities

1320
01:21:36,700 --> 01:21:39,200
and she's going to do whatever
it takes to make sure that

1321
01:21:39,200 --> 01:21:40,800
they're okay.
Yep.

1322
01:21:42,200 --> 01:21:44,900
Even if she has a marine around
the seal, do it.

1323
01:21:45,000 --> 01:21:47,600
Oh I get the feeling that she
and more rain later on.

1324
01:21:47,600 --> 01:21:51,200
Have very interesting
conversations how know about

1325
01:21:51,200 --> 01:21:54,500
conversations.
I'm I feel like this is going to

1326
01:21:54,508 --> 01:21:57,200
be a like a confrontation
between those two.

1327
01:21:58,400 --> 01:22:02,700
It just, I don't know, she just,
she gives off that, I don't

1328
01:22:02,700 --> 01:22:04,900
know.
She gives off that Vibe, like

1329
01:22:04,900 --> 01:22:08,000
she wants to kick somebody's
butt and I think at this point

1330
01:22:08,000 --> 01:22:10,700
Moraine is probably like the
biggest target, but of course

1331
01:22:10,700 --> 01:22:13,600
Moraine is kind of out of
commission right now.

1332
01:22:13,600 --> 01:22:17,700
So I don't know maybe her and
Lana for all I'm saying is that

1333
01:22:17,700 --> 01:22:20,100
I haven't gone any further than
what I told you guys.

1334
01:22:20,300 --> 01:22:23,400
I was feeling that in the next
couple books that she gets any

1335
01:22:23,400 --> 01:22:25,300
amount of power.
She might be able to kick

1336
01:22:25,300 --> 01:22:27,400
Marines ass.
That's all I'm saying, just

1337
01:22:27,400 --> 01:22:29,900
because she's angry.
Does it mean the most powerful

1338
01:22:29,900 --> 01:22:31,600
person in room?
Doesn't always win the fight?

1339
01:22:32,600 --> 01:22:35,400
That's just wants to fight.
That's true.

1340
01:22:36,000 --> 01:22:41,000
That's true.
But yeah I don't know.

1341
01:22:43,200 --> 01:22:45,600
I don't want to spoil anything.
They'll be spoilers.

1342
01:22:45,600 --> 01:22:49,900
Do you realize that I've been
very good.

1343
01:22:54,100 --> 01:22:56,900
Gloria, Hey, cuz I know she and
I know she's chomping at the

1344
01:22:56,900 --> 01:22:59,600
bit.
The cool thing is there.

1345
01:22:59,600 --> 01:23:02,900
A lot of people who there's some
people who don't really like the

1346
01:23:02,900 --> 01:23:06,000
show, especially the book
readers and this, because they

1347
01:23:06,000 --> 01:23:08,300
all say, oh, it's not like the
show, it's not like the show

1348
01:23:08,300 --> 01:23:11,300
where they've changed this.
They've changed that only about

1349
01:23:11,300 --> 01:23:17,400
so far, 70% to. 80% of what
we've seen has not happened in

1350
01:23:17,400 --> 01:23:20,300
the book.
It's all original.

1351
01:23:22,400 --> 01:23:27,900
It is a lot but they get across
a lot of the things that you

1352
01:23:27,900 --> 01:23:29,800
would have gotten to this point.
Okay?

1353
01:23:30,100 --> 01:23:34,500
Like the story of manipulation
wasn't told the way it was told

1354
01:23:34,500 --> 01:23:36,300
there.
It was holding a different way

1355
01:23:36,300 --> 01:23:37,600
in the book.
Okay?

1356
01:23:39,900 --> 01:23:44,700
The characters that we have met
that we haven't met yet, that we

1357
01:23:44,700 --> 01:23:48,000
would have already met.
Okay, they come later you

1358
01:23:48,300 --> 01:23:50,500
there's some things.
My point.

1359
01:23:50,500 --> 01:23:53,400
I guess what I'm trying to say
is it doesn't bother me because

1360
01:23:53,900 --> 01:23:57,100
I'm still getting the same
information and the same story

1361
01:23:57,100 --> 01:23:58,500
that I would have gotten from
the book.

1362
01:23:58,500 --> 01:24:00,800
It's just being told in a
different way, okay?

1363
01:24:01,000 --> 01:24:04,800
And the best comment I've seen
in the, in the, in the Facebook

1364
01:24:04,800 --> 01:24:08,100
group was just think of this as
just another turning of the

1365
01:24:08,100 --> 01:24:08,600
wheel.
Yeah.

1366
01:24:10,100 --> 01:24:12,800
Like some of this stuff has
happened before his hat is going

1367
01:24:12,800 --> 01:24:14,100
to happen again.
It's happening.

1368
01:24:14,100 --> 01:24:18,000
Now just imagine this is just a
different version of of the

1369
01:24:18,000 --> 01:24:22,700
wheel and I'm like, that seems
appropriate for this content.

1370
01:24:22,800 --> 01:24:24,500
Yeah, I think we're the same
Facebook group.

1371
01:24:24,500 --> 01:24:27,700
I think I saw that, too.
But did you also see the thing

1372
01:24:27,700 --> 01:24:30,200
that they floated yesterday,
which blew my mind.

1373
01:24:30,200 --> 01:24:33,700
I was like, I had to take my
brain out and think about it for

1374
01:24:33,700 --> 01:24:38,600
season 2, there flirt with the
idea of just writing it from the

1375
01:24:38,608 --> 01:24:41,700
writers room and Using any
Source material at all.

1376
01:24:41,700 --> 01:24:45,500
You just going to run with it.
I wouldn't be, I wouldn't be

1377
01:24:45,500 --> 01:24:48,100
upset with that because they've
then they've done a pretty good

1378
01:24:48,100 --> 01:24:53,200
job of not trying to stick to
everything that happened in the

1379
01:24:53,200 --> 01:24:56,500
book is it's not possible.
This is what 13 books us a lot,

1380
01:24:56,500 --> 01:25:01,400
a lot and you can't unlock it.
Like the expanse which is got

1381
01:25:01,400 --> 01:25:03,100
six seasons which is in the next
week.

1382
01:25:03,100 --> 01:25:06,500
I'm so sad.
They're hitting the expanse

1383
01:25:06,500 --> 01:25:10,200
right at just about book seven
of the nine which is I'm not I'm

1384
01:25:10,200 --> 01:25:13,400
not mad about, but with this
with the thirteen fourteen

1385
01:25:13,400 --> 01:25:16,500
books, it was Sanderson fishing,
the books, you would have to do

1386
01:25:16,500 --> 01:25:21,700
13 seasons and expanse was
booked out for 10-wheel time.

1387
01:25:22,300 --> 01:25:26,600
Possibly might get six same
amount of time with that and

1388
01:25:26,600 --> 01:25:30,100
with eight to ten episodes or 12
episodes or whatever they

1389
01:25:30,100 --> 01:25:33,200
decide, you're not going to be
able to chill everything from

1390
01:25:33,200 --> 01:25:35,300
the books, all the way through
now.

1391
01:25:35,300 --> 01:25:38,500
Since a I don't think so because
it this season was only eight

1392
01:25:38,500 --> 01:25:41,100
episodes, right?
Late and I haven't finished.

1393
01:25:41,100 --> 01:25:45,100
I got four left, but based off
of my experience with the

1394
01:25:45,100 --> 01:25:47,400
expanse.
The first one, two, three.

1395
01:25:47,500 --> 01:25:52,400
The first four seasons of the
expanse, did manage to get every

1396
01:25:52,600 --> 01:25:57,000
book that season was supposed to
be in and they got everything

1397
01:25:57,000 --> 01:26:00,900
in, but when they got two
seasons, five, and now season 6,

1398
01:26:01,400 --> 01:26:05,300
because they did a time Jump,
spoiler they're having crammed

1399
01:26:05,300 --> 01:26:07,100
and do stuff with.
I haven't watched it till it's

1400
01:26:07,100 --> 01:26:09,900
all over.
So with Wheel of Time, I'm

1401
01:26:09,900 --> 01:26:13,200
thinking that the first two
seasons is gonna do what they're

1402
01:26:13,200 --> 01:26:15,600
going to do.
Then when you get to season 4

1403
01:26:15,900 --> 01:26:20,100
season 5, you're really going to
have to wrap up the Sanderson

1404
01:26:20,100 --> 01:26:22,600
stuff in a way that's going to
give it a good ending.

1405
01:26:22,600 --> 01:26:26,500
Because when you do these long
books is hard to get,

1406
01:26:26,600 --> 01:26:30,700
everything's that fan wants
fanservice in, it's hard to get

1407
01:26:30,700 --> 01:26:34,000
it, get it together.
I think they're going to take

1408
01:26:34,000 --> 01:26:37,800
their cue from Lord of the
Rings.

1409
01:26:37,800 --> 01:26:43,500
Winter is coming.
Not Lord of the Rings because

1410
01:26:43,500 --> 01:26:47,600
the difference is they they they
have to appoint in the Game of

1411
01:26:47,600 --> 01:26:50,500
Thrones, where they have to make
up stuff.

1412
01:26:50,600 --> 01:26:54,500
Yeah, that's true because they
surpassed the books here.

1413
01:26:55,100 --> 01:26:59,800
They have the books, right?
They know where the story ends,

1414
01:27:00,400 --> 01:27:02,700
they know all the major events
that happen.

1415
01:27:02,900 --> 01:27:08,000
Hmm.
So, They can they can they can

1416
01:27:08,000 --> 01:27:10,800
literally just look at the
outline of the remaining books

1417
01:27:10,800 --> 01:27:14,300
and say these are the only
points that we have to hit and

1418
01:27:14,300 --> 01:27:17,200
everything else.
They can adapt and interpret

1419
01:27:17,200 --> 01:27:19,800
however they want to because
they know where the story is

1420
01:27:19,800 --> 01:27:23,300
going.
And I don't have a problem with

1421
01:27:23,300 --> 01:27:28,100
that as long as they keep with.
Keep with, what's happening?

1422
01:27:28,300 --> 01:27:32,900
I mean, I was a little bit
thrown off by, you know, I have

1423
01:27:32,900 --> 01:27:35,100
white hanako, I watched the
whole thing.

1424
01:27:35,500 --> 01:27:40,100
I was little bit thrown by the
end but he makes sense in any

1425
01:27:40,100 --> 01:27:44,900
format versus okay, okay?
And even up, until this point

1426
01:27:44,900 --> 01:27:49,300
all this, the shadow logo step,
they can't, they're things that

1427
01:27:49,300 --> 01:27:52,700
they just can't do.
That's in the books.

1428
01:27:52,700 --> 01:27:55,300
It just can't do it because it
would take forever and it will

1429
01:27:55,300 --> 01:27:58,100
be born.
So I'd like the way they've done

1430
01:27:58,100 --> 01:27:59,600
in the show.
Okay.

1431
01:28:00,000 --> 01:28:03,800
Because is it's the same stuff
like all the characters are

1432
01:28:03,800 --> 01:28:06,900
exactly except format all the
characters are exactly how they

1433
01:28:06,900 --> 01:28:08,900
are in the book.
Okay.

1434
01:28:09,300 --> 01:28:10,600
Okay.
I don't know why they doing that

1435
01:28:10,600 --> 01:28:13,100
this way.
I think you have some alternate

1436
01:28:13,100 --> 01:28:16,300
plan for him.
I don't know if it's because the

1437
01:28:16,300 --> 01:28:20,100
ACT is going to change but I
don't like how mad is being

1438
01:28:20,100 --> 01:28:22,500
portrayed in.
Really bothers me.

1439
01:28:22,500 --> 01:28:24,900
That's the only thing that I
don't really like about the show

1440
01:28:25,700 --> 01:28:28,300
because he got fired or did he
or he had another project to

1441
01:28:28,300 --> 01:28:30,200
bring somebody else enters and
pandemic.

1442
01:28:30,200 --> 01:28:32,800
I don't think they say yes.
Damn it man.

1443
01:28:33,400 --> 01:28:38,100
So yeah, well, character that
I'm waiting to see what shows up

1444
01:28:38,100 --> 01:28:42,600
in episode 5 is a certain orc,
which I can't wait to see how

1445
01:28:42,600 --> 01:28:45,000
they did.
Because I saw one picture and I

1446
01:28:45,000 --> 01:28:47,400
didn't agree with it because it
didn't fit the way.

1447
01:28:47,400 --> 01:28:49,400
I thought he should look from
the reading the book.

1448
01:28:50,200 --> 01:28:51,700
Oh dear.
Yes.

1449
01:28:51,700 --> 01:28:53,100
There you go.
Yeah.

1450
01:28:53,600 --> 01:28:55,300
Okay.
Meet became make him look like

1451
01:28:55,300 --> 01:29:00,000
he does in the book but they
don't they don't have that kind

1452
01:29:00,000 --> 01:29:01,200
of money.
I know we don't have.

1453
01:29:02,600 --> 01:29:06,600
Yeah.
But so yeah, let's see.

1454
01:29:06,600 --> 01:29:10,000
Is there anything else we need
to mention from this episode?

1455
01:29:10,100 --> 01:29:16,700
We talk about, I just, um, I,
I'm of the impression that rare

1456
01:29:16,700 --> 01:29:19,800
and even if he is the dragons,
whatever.

1457
01:29:20,200 --> 01:29:25,800
Is soft.
I'm about tired of him already

1458
01:29:26,100 --> 01:29:50,700
just like I just why?
If he doesn't talk to her, I

1459
01:29:50,700 --> 01:29:52,000
mean, I understand, you
understand.

1460
01:29:52,000 --> 01:29:55,700
Like, he's being all like
standoffish, but it's like, if

1461
01:29:55,700 --> 01:29:59,800
you mean you just see just
really got on my nerves, let me

1462
01:29:59,800 --> 01:30:01,500
think about it.
This is the best.

1463
01:30:01,700 --> 01:30:06,900
This is a guy who pretty much, I
guess him and egwene had taught

1464
01:30:06,900 --> 01:30:09,300
the head, like Envision, how
their life was going to be in

1465
01:30:09,300 --> 01:30:12,400
there.
All of a sudden she decides she

1466
01:30:12,400 --> 01:30:16,200
wants to train for wisdom, which
not only affects her affects him

1467
01:30:16,200 --> 01:30:19,700
to.
And then before, Or he can even

1468
01:30:19,700 --> 01:30:25,000
process that and really like
come to accept it.

1469
01:30:25,300 --> 01:30:28,300
Your village is attacked, your
father is attacked, and then

1470
01:30:28,300 --> 01:30:30,200
you're tall.
Oh yeah, you maybe this

1471
01:30:30,200 --> 01:30:33,900
legendary dragon reborn and now
we have to take you away from

1472
01:30:33,900 --> 01:30:37,900
everything you've ever known and
you have to Flee for Your Life,

1473
01:30:38,000 --> 01:30:40,300
that's it.
And we have to remember these

1474
01:30:40,300 --> 01:30:43,400
people are only 20 years old.
That's a lot for him to have to

1475
01:30:43,400 --> 01:30:48,800
deal with but I think even with
all of that the fact that he's

1476
01:30:49,000 --> 01:30:52,100
Asking for space.
He's I mean, think about it.

1477
01:30:52,100 --> 01:30:54,500
We've talked about this before
and I think we even talked about

1478
01:30:54,500 --> 01:30:58,800
it when we talked about the
first episode of this series, in

1479
01:30:58,800 --> 01:31:03,300
terms of people in relationships
and dealing with difficulties in

1480
01:31:03,300 --> 01:31:08,200
relationships, whatever the fact
that they can have conversations

1481
01:31:08,200 --> 01:31:11,400
and he can be like, okay, you
know what, I came out here

1482
01:31:11,400 --> 01:31:13,900
because I needed time to myself
and she got up and she was like,

1483
01:31:13,900 --> 01:31:15,900
okay cool.
And he was like, he was trying

1484
01:31:15,900 --> 01:31:19,100
to apologize and she was like,
no, I understand the that they

1485
01:31:19,100 --> 01:31:21,600
can even do those kinds of
things that's so different,

1486
01:31:21,600 --> 01:31:25,500
because usually people always
get offended like, oh no, I just

1487
01:31:25,500 --> 01:31:29,400
want some time to myself.
Oh, find what their?

1488
01:31:29,700 --> 01:31:34,000
It's a lot healthier than we've
seen in relationships in most of

1489
01:31:34,000 --> 01:31:37,400
what we watch, you know?
Yeah, he's going to be upset.

1490
01:31:37,600 --> 01:31:40,200
I mean, this is the person you
thought you was going to marry

1491
01:31:40,200 --> 01:31:42,400
and have children with.
And all of a sudden, you realize

1492
01:31:42,400 --> 01:31:45,900
that that's not a possibility
who doesn't need time to process

1493
01:31:45,900 --> 01:31:48,600
that who's not going to be a
little bit upset about that, but

1494
01:31:48,600 --> 01:31:51,600
he's That really going off about
her.

1495
01:31:51,600 --> 01:31:55,100
Yeah, he had his one little
Outburst like yeah, you already

1496
01:31:55,100 --> 01:31:59,200
did that when she says, you know
she's kind of going off on him

1497
01:31:59,200 --> 01:32:03,300
about how he's treating my rain.
But again, this is a woman who

1498
01:32:03,300 --> 01:32:07,700
y'all didn't even know a week
ago, she has come, she came into

1499
01:32:07,700 --> 01:32:11,800
your village and in his mind,
you coming to the village and

1500
01:32:11,800 --> 01:32:16,300
then immediately afterwards, we
get attacked by trolleys, then

1501
01:32:16,300 --> 01:32:18,700
we get taken away.
Told that?

1502
01:32:18,900 --> 01:32:21,900
That we have this possible
Destiny.

1503
01:32:22,100 --> 01:32:24,300
You're not giving us any
information.

1504
01:32:24,300 --> 01:32:26,300
You know, like we talked about
at the beginning of this

1505
01:32:26,300 --> 01:32:29,700
episode.
Yeah, I can understand him being

1506
01:32:29,700 --> 01:32:32,000
the way that he's being because
he's like well you got me

1507
01:32:32,000 --> 01:32:34,100
running for my life and I don't
even know what the fuck I'm

1508
01:32:34,100 --> 01:32:36,300
running for.
Like, give me a little more

1509
01:32:36,300 --> 01:32:39,300
information and then on top of
that, I got to deal with this

1510
01:32:39,300 --> 01:32:42,000
relationship stuff too.
I'm still worried about the

1511
01:32:42,000 --> 01:32:46,300
people back home and you are
being very vague and very

1512
01:32:46,300 --> 01:32:49,500
invasive.
He has a right to Like that.

1513
01:32:49,500 --> 01:32:52,500
But he's not.
I don't feel like he's being the

1514
01:32:52,500 --> 01:32:55,700
way you're saying, like, he's
being all whining stuff, I think

1515
01:32:55,700 --> 01:32:59,200
he's having very realistic
reactions to everything that's

1516
01:32:59,200 --> 01:33:03,400
going on around him.
And in a lot of ways, he's still

1517
01:33:03,400 --> 01:33:08,500
showing a semblance of maturity
because he's not being childish.

1518
01:33:09,100 --> 01:33:10,600
They're dealing with a whole
bunch of stuff.

1519
01:33:10,600 --> 01:33:14,200
And he's like, okay look you
want to sit here and be vague

1520
01:33:14,200 --> 01:33:16,400
when we're asking you questions.
No, damn it.

1521
01:33:16,500 --> 01:33:18,700
Tell us what's going on.
What are we getting ourselves?

1522
01:33:18,800 --> 01:33:22,600
Elves into, I mean, they just
watched her sink a bowl and the

1523
01:33:22,600 --> 01:33:25,800
ferryman because the ferryman
was concerned about his family

1524
01:33:26,200 --> 01:33:28,300
and granite.
I understand why she did it.

1525
01:33:28,300 --> 01:33:31,500
But if you're looking at it from
that point of view like this

1526
01:33:31,500 --> 01:33:34,900
dude, just helped us, he told
you that he's concerned about

1527
01:33:34,900 --> 01:33:39,600
his son and his family and
instead of trying to find ways

1528
01:33:39,600 --> 01:33:44,500
to help him, you sink, his boat,
which probably is his only means

1529
01:33:44,500 --> 01:33:48,500
of income, and because he tried
to save it.

1530
01:33:48,900 --> 01:33:52,000
He is up dying as well.
I don't blame ran for the way

1531
01:33:52,000 --> 01:33:57,100
he's acting because at this
point, if I was on that trip

1532
01:33:57,300 --> 01:34:00,200
with Mariah acting the way that
she's acting, I would have a lot

1533
01:34:00,200 --> 01:34:02,500
of questions too.
And then, of course, with them

1534
01:34:02,500 --> 01:34:06,000
being the man, I feel like she's
being purposefully, more evasive

1535
01:34:06,000 --> 01:34:09,700
with them because like Anthony
said, she can't since their

1536
01:34:09,700 --> 01:34:12,200
power.
She doesn't know what they're

1537
01:34:12,200 --> 01:34:16,800
capable of all she knows is one
of these four has the power to

1538
01:34:16,800 --> 01:34:18,700
either save the world or
completely.

1539
01:34:18,800 --> 01:34:23,400
We destroy it.
So yeah I'm Gonna Keep y'all at

1540
01:34:23,400 --> 01:34:26,900
arm's length for right now while
we try to figure this out I

1541
01:34:26,907 --> 01:34:29,500
don't think his reaction is
inappropriate at all.

1542
01:34:30,400 --> 01:34:34,600
I think he has, I think he has
he's more than Justified for

1543
01:34:34,600 --> 01:34:37,500
acting the way he's acting.
He could be acting worse.

1544
01:34:37,500 --> 01:34:41,100
He could be more childish, he
could be going off on equine all

1545
01:34:41,100 --> 01:34:43,600
the time.
He could be going off on Moraine

1546
01:34:43,600 --> 01:34:48,700
way more than he is, but I think
he's kind of why he's dealing.

1547
01:34:48,900 --> 01:34:51,600
The shock of everything.
I think he's still like being

1548
01:34:51,600 --> 01:34:54,500
reasonable.
You may be right Hanukkah, but I

1549
01:34:54,500 --> 01:35:00,800
still agree with Mike, he's a
limey Bradley kill.

1550
01:35:02,000 --> 01:35:03,500
Well, at least he's not wanting
a Bose dead.

1551
01:35:03,500 --> 01:35:05,900
Every five minutes.
Oh my God.

1552
01:35:19,600 --> 01:35:23,700
I'm just saying like look at it
like this at that moment, the

1553
01:35:23,700 --> 01:35:26,700
one that was teaching her was
gone as far as they knew she was

1554
01:35:26,700 --> 01:35:28,900
dead.
So those are good chance that

1555
01:35:28,900 --> 01:35:32,400
she might not actually get to go
through with her teaching soon.

1556
01:35:32,400 --> 01:35:36,200
There's still a chance of that.
So I mean I feel like his

1557
01:35:36,200 --> 01:35:40,000
reactions were just kind of
child when you say, there's

1558
01:35:40,000 --> 01:35:41,700
still a chance of that.
What do you mean?

1559
01:35:42,500 --> 01:35:44,500
I'm like her going through with
her wisdom training like.

1560
01:35:45,000 --> 01:35:49,800
Oh okay yeah like maybe if they
ever go back, To the terrain.

1561
01:35:50,000 --> 01:35:53,500
Yeah, which is like I said,
there's no guarantee of that.

1562
01:35:53,500 --> 01:35:55,600
There's no guarantee that
thinking they'll ever go back

1563
01:35:55,600 --> 01:36:00,300
home.
Yeah, I don't think, I don't

1564
01:36:00,300 --> 01:36:01,900
think that they'll ever go back
home.

1565
01:36:01,900 --> 01:36:06,000
I think they have the idea, but
I get the impression and he

1566
01:36:06,000 --> 01:36:08,100
correct me if I'm wrong.
Mike D'Antoni from wronged you,

1567
01:36:08,300 --> 01:36:14,000
but the impression I got is that
once once they pick you, that's

1568
01:36:14,000 --> 01:36:15,700
it.
Sort of like, in the valdemar

1569
01:36:15,700 --> 01:36:19,500
series when the Harold thinks
you and your I choose you to be

1570
01:36:19,500 --> 01:36:21,700
a Harold, that's it.
You no longer go.

1571
01:36:21,700 --> 01:36:23,300
You can go back and visit your
family.

1572
01:36:23,400 --> 01:36:27,200
But you belong to the king and
the Herald's.

1573
01:36:27,200 --> 01:36:29,900
Same thing in this, you belong
to the isid.

1574
01:36:29,900 --> 01:36:32,600
I, you can't get out of it.
You can't quit.

1575
01:36:32,600 --> 01:36:38,700
That's what you are for life.
Yeah, yeah.

1576
01:36:38,900 --> 01:36:41,500
Yeah.
I mean any woman that they come

1577
01:36:41,500 --> 01:36:44,300
across they're going to take him
to the tower for the most part.

1578
01:36:44,700 --> 01:36:48,400
Yeah.
So I don't know, we're have to

1579
01:36:48,400 --> 01:36:56,400
see but I, I think the whole
thing with Randomness and the

1580
01:36:56,400 --> 01:37:04,100
other three I think we need to I
know, I think I'll feel more

1581
01:37:04,100 --> 01:37:07,800
comfortable as far as how I view
all of them.

1582
01:37:07,800 --> 01:37:11,100
Once we get a little bit more of
the story, because I think, even

1583
01:37:11,100 --> 01:37:14,300
though right now we're two
episodes in, I don't think we

1584
01:37:14,300 --> 01:37:17,600
know enough about the characters
individually.

1585
01:37:19,000 --> 01:37:22,400
For me to say, okay well this is
how this person is, this is how

1586
01:37:22,400 --> 01:37:27,000
this person is.
I think we're seeing a lot of of

1587
01:37:27,000 --> 01:37:30,800
surface stuff and I think we're
seeing a lot of who they are

1588
01:37:30,800 --> 01:37:34,000
based on what's going on around
them with ran.

1589
01:37:34,000 --> 01:37:37,500
Like I said, I think he's just
reacting to everything that's

1590
01:37:37,500 --> 01:37:41,700
around them.
I think egwene is because she's

1591
01:37:41,700 --> 01:37:44,400
getting a little bit more
information and a little bit

1592
01:37:44,400 --> 01:37:48,000
more from Moraine, I think
that's enough to kind of make

1593
01:37:48,000 --> 01:37:54,200
her I won't say blindly follow
Moraine, but if you think about

1594
01:37:54,200 --> 01:37:58,600
it, her purpose back in the
village is gone because as far

1595
01:37:58,600 --> 01:38:01,900
as they know, not name is dead
and that was what she was

1596
01:38:01,900 --> 01:38:04,400
planning to do.
So I think at this point now she

1597
01:38:04,400 --> 01:38:07,700
has something she's being
offered a chance at something

1598
01:38:07,700 --> 01:38:09,600
similar to what she wanted to
do.

1599
01:38:10,200 --> 01:38:12,800
So I think that's enough to keep
her following Moraine.

1600
01:38:13,700 --> 01:38:17,800
Paran is just I think parent is
still in shock, you know, not

1601
01:38:17,800 --> 01:38:19,500
just from his head.
Right now.

1602
01:38:19,500 --> 01:38:23,500
Yeah because he's got a lot of
guilt that he's dealing with

1603
01:38:23,500 --> 01:38:27,700
because you know, he killed his
wife and even though it was a

1604
01:38:27,700 --> 01:38:33,200
genuine accident like there was
a lot going on, you got try Alex

1605
01:38:33,200 --> 01:38:35,400
in your house fighting you and
your wife are fighting

1606
01:38:35,400 --> 01:38:37,500
side-by-side.
And, you know, when she comes up

1607
01:38:37,500 --> 01:38:39,900
behind him, he thinks it's a
chalak.

1608
01:38:39,900 --> 01:38:42,900
And I don't think, you know,
that's a mistake anybody could

1609
01:38:42,900 --> 01:38:44,600
have made.
But, you know, he feels a lot of

1610
01:38:44,600 --> 01:38:46,900
that guilt and of course, I
don't think he wants to tell

1611
01:38:46,900 --> 01:38:48,500
them just in case they may
blame.

1612
01:38:48,700 --> 01:38:51,300
Name him as well.
Even though I think anybody who

1613
01:38:51,300 --> 01:38:55,800
hears his story would be like
dude that was not your fault

1614
01:38:55,800 --> 01:38:59,900
don't don't carry that but I
think right now he's just you

1615
01:38:59,900 --> 01:39:03,800
know we have we always have to
have somebody who's Broody in

1616
01:39:03,800 --> 01:39:07,100
the group and so right now
parent fits that bill and that

1617
01:39:07,100 --> 01:39:12,600
is just kind of like throws
caution to the wind like he's

1618
01:39:12,600 --> 01:39:21,600
very I feel like he's very much.
The he is the Troublemaker, but

1619
01:39:21,600 --> 01:39:26,000
I also feel like he is the one
for the most part that grounds,

1620
01:39:26,000 --> 01:39:29,600
all of them because everybody
else is kind of responsible in

1621
01:39:29,600 --> 01:39:33,400
their own way and he is as well,
but he doesn't have his sister's

1622
01:39:33,400 --> 01:39:35,600
with them.
So now he's more like comic

1623
01:39:35,600 --> 01:39:38,700
relief like trying to tie
everyone together or trying to

1624
01:39:38,700 --> 01:39:41,400
be the one, you know, he's the
one that tossed around like

1625
01:39:41,400 --> 01:39:45,000
don't be an asshole, like he's
the person that's Going to kind

1626
01:39:45,000 --> 01:39:48,800
of ground all of them for now.
I don't know what's going to

1627
01:39:48,808 --> 01:39:52,800
happen now that they're all
separated because I think with

1628
01:39:52,800 --> 01:39:55,700
them being separated into the
groups that they're separated

1629
01:39:55,700 --> 01:39:58,800
into.
Now, we'll start to see a little

1630
01:39:58,800 --> 01:40:02,900
bit more of a character
personalities come out and see

1631
01:40:02,900 --> 01:40:05,300
what they're really made of.
And I think it's going to be

1632
01:40:05,300 --> 01:40:09,200
really interesting with random
Matt because like I said, I feel

1633
01:40:09,200 --> 01:40:12,700
like those two are the ones that
are kind of like the coin toss.

1634
01:40:13,200 --> 01:40:16,500
Like okay, Are you the dragon
that's going to be good?

1635
01:40:16,500 --> 01:40:18,400
Or are you the dragon?
That's going to fuck?

1636
01:40:18,400 --> 01:40:20,800
Shit up, I think it's between
those two.

1637
01:40:20,800 --> 01:40:25,200
So I think we'll get to see a
little bit of that as they, I

1638
01:40:25,200 --> 01:40:29,000
don't know, I guess journey to
find each other, so I don't

1639
01:40:29,000 --> 01:40:31,600
know.
But if I mean it's a, it's a

1640
01:40:31,600 --> 01:40:36,500
very interesting Series so far.
Um, I did join that Facebook

1641
01:40:36,500 --> 01:40:40,000
group that you talked about
Anthony, and I think I was in

1642
01:40:40,000 --> 01:40:44,800
that group for less than a day.
I have to leave it because As I

1643
01:40:44,800 --> 01:40:50,100
was like, if I see one more post
individual post about how this

1644
01:40:50,100 --> 01:40:54,100
is not like the books, I was
like and I'm thinking, of

1645
01:40:54,100 --> 01:40:55,300
course, I'm Harry Potter,
fandom?

1646
01:40:55,300 --> 01:40:57,900
I'm like, oh my God, is this
what we sound like?

1647
01:40:57,900 --> 01:40:59,700
Where are we?
This bad.

1648
01:41:00,100 --> 01:41:01,900
Yeah, that was just what he
should have seen.

1649
01:41:01,900 --> 01:41:04,000
The dude posted in Facebook
group.

1650
01:41:04,000 --> 01:41:05,700
It was even worse.
No, no.

1651
01:41:05,700 --> 01:41:09,200
No, that's okay.
I don't need it because after a

1652
01:41:09,208 --> 01:41:13,000
while I got to a point where I
knew how to separate the books

1653
01:41:13,000 --> 01:41:14,900
from the films with Harry.
A Potter.

1654
01:41:15,700 --> 01:41:18,600
But I don't know.
I feel like, I feel like these

1655
01:41:18,600 --> 01:41:22,400
people in this Facebook group,
they are so much worse because

1656
01:41:22,400 --> 01:41:25,500
they really found like the
wildlife.

1657
01:41:25,500 --> 01:41:29,200
The way you talk about ran,
Mike, that's how I felt about.

1658
01:41:29,200 --> 01:41:31,300
Some of these people in this
group, I was like, oh my God,

1659
01:41:31,400 --> 01:41:34,900
unfollow, leave group, I can do
it, see how it goes.

1660
01:41:35,100 --> 01:41:37,300
These are the, these are my
people, okay?

1661
01:41:37,400 --> 01:41:41,000
These are the people who are,
who are like me and Anthony, who

1662
01:41:41,000 --> 01:41:47,100
just basically Mainline See
fiction all the time I'm in and

1663
01:41:47,100 --> 01:41:53,000
I understand that but it was
just a bit much.

1664
01:41:53,000 --> 01:41:59,200
It's the vocal minority.
Because, you know, I think most

1665
01:41:59,600 --> 01:42:03,200
for me, I believe, most people
like me, they like the books and

1666
01:42:03,200 --> 01:42:06,200
they have really kind of like
the series to this is that you

1667
01:42:06,200 --> 01:42:09,100
have a, you have a group of
people.

1668
01:42:11,100 --> 01:42:13,600
Like I said in the beginning,
when we first started covering

1669
01:42:13,600 --> 01:42:17,700
this, I think some of them have
ulterior motives as to why they

1670
01:42:17,700 --> 01:42:20,400
don't like the series.
Yeah, I've been like to show

1671
01:42:21,700 --> 01:42:25,300
because people were still
posting, this is why I think

1672
01:42:25,300 --> 01:42:27,400
they've been casted.
These are all the different

1673
01:42:27,400 --> 01:42:29,300
people who should have been
casted for this.

1674
01:42:29,500 --> 01:42:33,100
You know, they were still doing
casting things like oh, you

1675
01:42:33,100 --> 01:42:35,100
know, I don't think she's a good
egwene.

1676
01:42:35,300 --> 01:42:39,000
They should have put this person
and, you know, of course, I'm

1677
01:42:39,000 --> 01:42:43,300
not going to put the militant
head on, but I'm just saying we

1678
01:42:43,300 --> 01:42:45,400
get it.
A lot of, a lot of people have,

1679
01:42:45,400 --> 01:42:48,200
they may not be aware of it or
cognizant of it.

1680
01:42:48,400 --> 01:42:51,600
But that's sort of one of the
things that don't really, they

1681
01:42:51,600 --> 01:42:54,000
don't like about the series and
big these ones.

1682
01:42:54,400 --> 01:42:56,700
They either aren't aware of it
or they don't want to say it out

1683
01:42:56,700 --> 01:42:58,500
loud.
Anybody who knows?

1684
01:42:58,500 --> 01:43:00,400
That believe me, they are aware
of it.

1685
01:43:00,500 --> 01:43:04,100
Some of them are some people who
just they want the books, to be

1686
01:43:04,100 --> 01:43:08,500
portrayed a specific way on the
screen exactly how I use them.

1687
01:43:08,600 --> 01:43:10,800
Book and they don't understand
that you can't do it that way.

1688
01:43:10,900 --> 01:43:14,200
Imagine imagine how I feel when
they did The Dresden series.

1689
01:43:14,200 --> 01:43:17,300
Even though I love Paul
Blackstone, imagine how I felt,

1690
01:43:17,800 --> 01:43:20,800
okay, we got one season
addressed and it wasn't bad, but

1691
01:43:20,800 --> 01:43:22,600
it wasn't great.
Okay?

1692
01:43:23,200 --> 01:43:26,300
Those people actually think they
disable that Facebook group

1693
01:43:26,300 --> 01:43:28,400
because it was just that bad.
Okay.

1694
01:43:28,500 --> 01:43:31,200
Wow.
So I mean the new groups fine

1695
01:43:31,200 --> 01:43:36,100
but yeah, it any type of book
that you read like the

1696
01:43:36,100 --> 01:43:38,700
experience that I didn't read
the expanse until the show. you

1697
01:43:38,708 --> 01:43:42,600
know, I watched the show for
five episodes, oh, it's a book

1698
01:43:42,600 --> 01:43:47,000
series went, and I got the
books, but the, the way that

1699
01:43:47,000 --> 01:43:50,500
they have followed the books and
the way that they cast, the

1700
01:43:50,500 --> 01:43:55,800
characters like say Naomi Nagata
or a mass murderer, they

1701
01:43:55,800 --> 01:44:00,400
basically found actors that were
very, very close to the way that

1702
01:44:00,400 --> 01:44:04,900
they should look in the book,
even down to Bobby and I will

1703
01:44:04,900 --> 01:44:07,800
sorry, and all that, but most of
those characters and expands our

1704
01:44:07,800 --> 01:44:14,500
plc's, He's okay, so going in,
they had a certain look and

1705
01:44:14,500 --> 01:44:18,000
coming out of it by the end of
the first season, they were

1706
01:44:18,000 --> 01:44:21,000
like, okay, this is Naomi
Nagata, this is James Holden,

1707
01:44:21,200 --> 01:44:23,700
you know, this is a was
spurting, you know, this is

1708
01:44:23,700 --> 01:44:27,300
Alice come all and it was locked
and they haven't had any issues.

1709
01:44:27,300 --> 01:44:31,300
The only issues they've had is
with the belcher's, with the OPA

1710
01:44:31,300 --> 01:44:34,400
and how the tattoos and the
symbols and all the Bell Watson.

1711
01:44:34,400 --> 01:44:37,800
All that is different, so that's
what they get into but they

1712
01:44:37,800 --> 01:44:43,200
don't get Into color or colorism
because they were told at the

1713
01:44:43,208 --> 01:44:48,100
gate, they only got it.
African African to say, Ivo,

1714
01:44:48,100 --> 01:44:53,700
sorrow Asian Indian right?
Okay, so they don't have that in

1715
01:44:53,700 --> 01:44:59,200
that group, but this group and
other fantasy groups They don't

1716
01:44:59,200 --> 01:45:02,900
come out and say that such and
such and such should be a

1717
01:45:02,900 --> 01:45:06,500
redhead, but they did an
surrounded enough to get

1718
01:45:06,500 --> 01:45:09,600
themselves banned for a couple
days or a couple of hours.

1719
01:45:09,600 --> 01:45:13,300
Then they come back in, they
apologized, the adven, they're

1720
01:45:13,300 --> 01:45:15,500
good for two weeks and then they
go off again.

1721
01:45:16,300 --> 01:45:19,900
And, you know, it's like you can
either ignore it.

1722
01:45:19,900 --> 01:45:23,200
You could unlike the group or
you could just go past their

1723
01:45:23,200 --> 01:45:25,600
posts and go on to something
else, it's like keep it moving.

1724
01:45:25,800 --> 01:45:29,500
So this is a problem that
fantasy Has is because

1725
01:45:29,500 --> 01:45:33,100
everything is not like it was
say, even 10 years ago, where's

1726
01:45:33,100 --> 01:45:34,800
everybody in the cast was all
white.

1727
01:45:35,500 --> 01:45:37,900
Now you've got everybody, which
is awesome.

1728
01:45:38,300 --> 01:45:41,800
Okay.
So the people who grew up with

1729
01:45:41,800 --> 01:45:47,300
Dungeons & Dragons, dragonlance
Forgotten Realms, you know,

1730
01:45:47,300 --> 01:45:50,200
stuff like that, you have in
your ear, the dark elf has only

1731
01:45:50,200 --> 01:45:54,400
dark elf, you know, you got this
you got that they have to rewire

1732
01:45:54,400 --> 01:45:58,000
their brain or not to get on the
wagon of this is what life is

1733
01:45:58,000 --> 01:46:00,100
going.
From now on mmm.

1734
01:46:00,300 --> 01:46:02,900
Why am I waving my arms and
pointing in directing anyway,

1735
01:46:05,900 --> 01:46:09,600
I'm saying so it's not us, it's
them.

1736
01:46:10,400 --> 01:46:13,300
They got to get used to the fact
that this is what life is like

1737
01:46:13,300 --> 01:46:16,300
for.
Now on gotta get on the train or

1738
01:46:16,400 --> 01:46:21,900
if you don't shut up and move
on, Yeah, I'm part of that like

1739
01:46:21,900 --> 01:46:23,500
shut up and move on.
At this point.

1740
01:46:23,500 --> 01:46:26,400
I mean I know that there are
some things that people will

1741
01:46:26,400 --> 01:46:29,100
complain about.
I'm not I'm not saying that

1742
01:46:29,100 --> 01:46:33,500
because I mean if you guys
listen to me and Anthony talk

1743
01:46:33,500 --> 01:46:38,600
about last year's release of the
stand, the new miniseries we

1744
01:46:38,600 --> 01:46:44,000
complained a lot about what was
made different to the source

1745
01:46:44,000 --> 01:46:46,300
material and also to the earlier
version.

1746
01:46:46,300 --> 01:46:50,400
But also I feel like the things
that we complained about Really

1747
01:46:50,400 --> 01:46:54,500
were important to the
development of the characters in

1748
01:46:54,500 --> 01:46:56,600
the series.
So that's one of the reasons why

1749
01:46:56,600 --> 01:46:58,900
we complain.
But I mean, they did they did

1750
01:46:58,900 --> 01:47:02,600
some switches there to where
characters that traditionally

1751
01:47:02,600 --> 01:47:07,000
were Caucasian were now
African-American and vice versa.

1752
01:47:07,000 --> 01:47:09,800
And I don't really have a
problem with that because it

1753
01:47:09,800 --> 01:47:13,500
didn't affect the overall
storyline those types of things.

1754
01:47:13,500 --> 01:47:17,500
You know it I won't say, it
doesn't bother me.

1755
01:47:17,500 --> 01:47:21,100
I love the fact that they're
doing more Isn't ation the only

1756
01:47:21,100 --> 01:47:25,700
time that it will bother me is
if you make a person a if

1757
01:47:25,700 --> 01:47:29,200
there's a specific reason why a
character was written as

1758
01:47:29,200 --> 01:47:33,300
Caucasian and then they make
them a person of color or vice

1759
01:47:33,300 --> 01:47:35,200
versa.
Like if they're specifically

1760
01:47:35,200 --> 01:47:40,400
reason why a person of color
character is cast as white and

1761
01:47:40,400 --> 01:47:44,300
and it messes up the story, then
I would have a problem with it.

1762
01:47:44,300 --> 01:47:49,000
But for people to keep harping
about the fact that these

1763
01:47:49,000 --> 01:47:51,700
characters, Who are written
however, many years ago, think

1764
01:47:51,700 --> 01:47:54,200
about it, most of the fantasy
that was written back.

1765
01:47:54,200 --> 01:47:58,500
Then, nobody Envision people of
care, people of color in these

1766
01:47:58,500 --> 01:48:00,400
characters.
You know what I'm saying?

1767
01:48:00,400 --> 01:48:05,200
So it's kind of like, we have to
change with the times and I feel

1768
01:48:05,200 --> 01:48:11,400
like, if you are talking about a
world that takes place, I'm not

1769
01:48:11,400 --> 01:48:13,900
sure what the time span is for
will of time.

1770
01:48:13,900 --> 01:48:19,900
But obviously, there are you saw
like, um, You saw like oh

1771
01:48:19,900 --> 01:48:26,700
Bridges or vestiges of time, you
know, pastimes in this show, the

1772
01:48:26,700 --> 01:48:29,300
world is more diverse.
So you can't tell me that in the

1773
01:48:29,300 --> 01:48:31,500
future.
All of the characters are going

1774
01:48:31,500 --> 01:48:34,600
to be just all white.
I mean I think Shannara

1775
01:48:34,600 --> 01:48:36,800
Chronicles was probably a good
example of that.

1776
01:48:36,800 --> 01:48:39,200
You know what I'm saying?
You can't tell me that everybody

1777
01:48:39,200 --> 01:48:43,800
who survived whatever end of the
world is all one particular

1778
01:48:43,800 --> 01:48:46,800
race, that's just not realistic.
And so the fact that they're

1779
01:48:46,800 --> 01:48:50,900
bringing in the diversity and
Making it look like the world.

1780
01:48:50,900 --> 01:48:56,500
The way the world is now.
It's a good thing, get over it.

1781
01:48:56,600 --> 01:48:58,400
This is what the world looks
like.

1782
01:48:58,700 --> 01:49:02,700
You know, knife is, if it's
storyline related, things that

1783
01:49:02,700 --> 01:49:05,300
people are complaining about oh
they didn't do this in the books

1784
01:49:05,800 --> 01:49:11,100
if it if it changes the overall
story in a bad way then yes I

1785
01:49:11,100 --> 01:49:14,200
don't have a problem with them
complain about that but the fact

1786
01:49:14,200 --> 01:49:17,300
that this Series has now been
out for several months and

1787
01:49:17,300 --> 01:49:20,700
you're still complaining about
the fact that this got changed,

1788
01:49:20,700 --> 01:49:27,200
that got changes kind of like
Learn to separate the two you

1789
01:49:27,200 --> 01:49:29,200
know, patient screen
adaptations.

1790
01:49:29,200 --> 01:49:35,600
Almost never live up to the hype
that other people created.

1791
01:49:35,600 --> 01:49:40,600
Now, if there's a okay, I'm
going, I say all that and then

1792
01:49:40,600 --> 01:49:45,000
say this, so there was one page
to screen adaptation that I was

1793
01:49:45,000 --> 01:49:48,300
looking forward to that came
out.

1794
01:49:48,300 --> 01:49:51,700
So horribly wrong like
everything that they did that

1795
01:49:51,700 --> 01:49:56,700
they change for the story was so
Opposite of what happened in the

1796
01:49:56,700 --> 01:49:59,200
book, and that was for Beautiful
Creatures.

1797
01:49:59,200 --> 01:50:03,000
It's a wireless series, The
Caster Chronicles, I've read the

1798
01:50:03,000 --> 01:50:05,000
whole series.
I was looking forward to it,

1799
01:50:05,000 --> 01:50:07,300
went to go watching the movie
theater and I was like, what the

1800
01:50:07,308 --> 01:50:10,800
fuck was this?
And they even changed it at the

1801
01:50:10,800 --> 01:50:13,800
end of the movie.
So that one of the characters,

1802
01:50:14,300 --> 01:50:18,600
who plays a major role in
screwing up, everything in the

1803
01:50:18,600 --> 01:50:21,000
other two books, they killed her
off in the first movie.

1804
01:50:21,200 --> 01:50:26,400
Oh, I was like, yeah, that's not
that and of Course it did

1805
01:50:26,400 --> 01:50:29,300
horribly at the box office, they
scrapped any plans to do

1806
01:50:29,300 --> 01:50:33,500
sequels, that kind of thing, I
can understand because you're

1807
01:50:33,500 --> 01:50:37,100
changing the nature of the whole
series.

1808
01:50:37,600 --> 01:50:41,300
But if they would have made, you
know Ethan and what's your name

1809
01:50:41,400 --> 01:50:44,000
black?
It wouldn't bother me.

1810
01:50:44,000 --> 01:50:46,900
If they would have made him a
different race, one to bother

1811
01:50:46,900 --> 01:50:48,700
me.
Because as long as the story is

1812
01:50:48,700 --> 01:50:51,000
still intact.
You know.

1813
01:50:51,000 --> 01:50:55,800
But anyway, we had to do a
podcast about Peach, the screen

1814
01:50:56,100 --> 01:50:58,800
adaptations.
I was actually thinking about

1815
01:50:58,800 --> 01:51:01,100
that wild Lori was making her
little speech.

1816
01:51:01,100 --> 01:51:03,100
A few minutes ago.
I said we need to we need to do

1817
01:51:03,100 --> 01:51:07,600
one of those worst page to
screen the Percy Jackson, Percy

1818
01:51:07,600 --> 01:51:10,900
Jackson.
Well, they're going to the third

1819
01:51:10,900 --> 01:51:12,600
movie is still supposed to come
out.

1820
01:51:12,700 --> 01:51:16,000
Okay, let's save it, save it.
Okay, really okay, yeah so yeah,

1821
01:51:16,000 --> 01:51:20,000
that that'll be one of our
podcast suggestions for later

1822
01:51:20,000 --> 01:51:22,400
on.
But let's close this one out for

1823
01:51:22,400 --> 01:51:26,200
episode 2 because I know we've
gotten way off on tangent, but

1824
01:51:26,600 --> 01:51:29,400
any final thoughts for episode 2
of will of time.

1825
01:51:29,900 --> 01:51:33,400
I'm shut off or ran forgetting,
the medieval version of covid

1826
01:51:33,400 --> 01:51:36,100
with the, with the BET fighting
him in the esophagus.

1827
01:51:36,600 --> 01:51:42,800
I'm, I'm really, I'm looking
forward to seeing how parents

1828
01:51:42,800 --> 01:51:46,400
story like pans out because, you
know, at some point he's got to

1829
01:51:46,400 --> 01:51:50,100
tell one of them, what happened?
So I'm looking forward to seeing

1830
01:51:50,100 --> 01:51:52,200
Seeing how that runs out.
I want looking forward to see

1831
01:51:52,200 --> 01:51:56,100
how Matt's comments greedy ass
gets caught out there with that

1832
01:51:56,100 --> 01:51:59,100
dagger like that has to be like
something that's going to be

1833
01:51:59,100 --> 01:52:03,000
like really that's me something
that, you know, he brought he

1834
01:52:03,000 --> 01:52:05,200
brought something out, that
should have stayed in and it's

1835
01:52:05,200 --> 01:52:08,600
like this.
Just like, you know how, you

1836
01:52:08,600 --> 01:52:11,400
know, but like black people
would like, one two things like

1837
01:52:11,400 --> 01:52:13,700
you're yelling at the screen,
like, what are you doing?

1838
01:52:14,000 --> 01:52:18,000
Don't do that.
Put that put, that means it's

1839
01:52:18,000 --> 01:52:20,900
just, you know, I'm looking
forward to seeing That pans out

1840
01:52:20,900 --> 01:52:24,000
because that's definitely going
to be something that is either

1841
01:52:24,000 --> 01:52:28,400
going to help or hinder them.
I'm thinking that whatever

1842
01:52:28,400 --> 01:52:31,100
Spirit where Spirits can ready
to possess them with that dagger

1843
01:52:31,100 --> 01:52:34,600
is going to draw out, whoever is
the dragon and that's going to

1844
01:52:34,600 --> 01:52:37,600
be that should be part of, you
know, part of how that comes

1845
01:52:37,600 --> 01:52:41,200
out.
Okay, then again it is my

1846
01:52:41,200 --> 01:52:42,400
theory.
So you know it's probably not

1847
01:52:42,400 --> 01:52:45,200
gonna be enough but it's okay.
Well, we'll see.

1848
01:52:45,200 --> 01:52:49,700
We still have what six episodes
of this series to get into.

1849
01:52:49,700 --> 01:52:53,900
So we'll see how which of your
theories pan out Mike for the

1850
01:52:53,900 --> 01:52:56,400
rest of the show before.
Right now, that's it for our

1851
01:52:56,400 --> 01:52:58,300
show.
You can find us online at

1852
01:52:58,300 --> 01:53:02,600
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1853
01:53:02,600 --> 01:53:06,200
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1854
01:53:06,200 --> 01:53:09,600
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1855
01:53:09,600 --> 01:53:11,300
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1856
01:53:11,300 --> 01:53:13,200
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